• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Big time problems

CyberSlag

Junior Member
Ok guys, here's a big one for ya. I just finished putting my box together thursday. It's made up of:
1GHz athlon
abig kd7-raid
120GB 7200rpm western digital HD
MSI geforce4 ti4600
soundblaster live
5232/52 LITEON CDRW
chieftec case w/400 watt power supply
1GB PC2100 DDR RAM (4x 256MB sticks)

Now, I originally booted my comp up using only 2 sticks of RAM (512MB, I'd heard of previous abit boards only supporting 2/3 sticks of unbuffered RAM so I thought I'd playt it safe to start). All was well, so as I was doing the routine windows updates I threw in the other two sticks of RAM between reboots. All was still good. Now I, for some reason, thought I had a 1.4GHz proc (I bought it like 2 years ago and am now finally using it), but when the comp detected it at 1GHz, I thought it was a mistake, so I slowly upped the juice until I finally hit 1.4GHz . At this point everything was still running fine. My comp was fast (kicked the crap out of the highest settings of ut2k3 and ran planetside very respectively), it was stable (thus far), and ran at a nice 41 degrees celsius during moderate load. Life was good. So, when I shut it down before bed time and when I came back to it the next day after work, it wouldn't boot. It would power on, but every 5 seconds or so, it would send off a 3 second beep and would not start booting up. After several attempts, I reset the bios using the jumpers on the board, bringing my clock speed back to the original 1GHz (it must have just been a 1 gigahertz proc, i probably just forgot). I, however, felt it more likely that the 2 extra stick of ram were the culprit so I removed them as well. After that it booted up nicely and worked just fine. Thinking perhaps it was merely the RAM, i bumped the proc up to 1.4 again and played around for a little bit (it was actually at this point i tested ut2k3 so it must reaaaally scream if it has a gig of ram to work with). anyway, i shut it down and went to bed again and this morning...beeeeeeeep. It did it again. This was really starting to perplex me as the night before i could shut down, start up, shut down, start up all i wanted and it would work just fine. But not this morning. So this led me to believe my OCed proc was the problem. so i reset the bios again and tried to boot. Unfortunately it wouldn't, it just did the beeping thing again. So i tried again with no luck.

Now unfortunately, the above problem described is only the first part of the problem as there are now more pressing issues at hand (to be described below). However, it is something i must eventually (hopefully soon) address, so if anyone has any insight on the situation (i've never heard of an OCed proc behave this way...especially since it ran quite cool), it would be much appreciated. Perhaps it is the extra ram or even the proc OCing. My friend tends to think it's the PSU, but i find it odd that it would work one night and not in the morning. anyway, this concludes part two.

At this point i thought perhaps i'd have better luck if i changed the memory config (that seemed to work well last time), so i thought i'd add a stick of ram. Well, unfortunately i must not have secured it all the way or had it in wrong as after trying it i noticed the little clip on one side wasn't all the way up, and i also noticed the bios jumper was still in the reset position, so i switched that too. This distressing thing is what happened when i tried to boot up. It would power on, only after about 7 seconds, it would shut off. Everything, fans, HD, the works would completely lose power. Very odd, i thought so i removed the RAM, unplugged it for a few seconds, reset the bios, and powered on again. Again the same thing, it would power on and a few seconds later it powers off again. A friend thoughti had perhaps fried the sticks of RAM i had in there, but i tried each one individually to no avail (I know they couldn't all have been fried in the mishap because when i booted with the one not perfectly inserted, i only used 3 of the 4 sticks). The motherboard does the same thing no matter how much ram is in there (even if there is no ram inserted). i've looked around and i don't think the mobo is touching anything it shouldn't be and i've made it a point to relocate any potentially troublesome wires. I find myself thinking i might have damaged the motherboard when attempting to change the amount of ram (i really hope i didn't, though). another odd thing is that it seems like the longer i don't try and boot it, the longer it will go before shutting off. multiple attempts lead to decreases in running time (down to like 2 seconds eventually), so i'm thinking this may lead somewhere else. I'm thinking it's either the mobo (as i said) or perhaps the power supply.

So that is my situation. If anyone has any insight at all on either situation, i would greatly apreciate it as i am at a loss here.

Thank you for your help and patience,

Mike
 
The first thing you should do is check you motherboard manual to see if it has information on beep codes. You write that you got a long 3 second beep. What is this beep code in reference to? You should also as a second option, remove everything except your video card unless your motherboard has onboard video. Boot up with the absolute minimum hardware possible. See what happens and report back.
 
Nope, no beep codes in the manual (I even downloaded a PDF of the manual and did a search for the word "beep" and got no results). And I'm afraid there was no change when I unplugged everything but the motherboard and vid. card (I even tried removing the vid. card too). It just powers on for several seconds and then shuts off (on a side note, it doesn't even stay on long enough for it to beep as it used to).
 
Hi,

Have you had the hestsink off to check the code on the processor - to verify exactly what model it is? This way you can be 100% sure it is not an OC related problem?

Good luck,

Andy
 
Check your motherboard for what BIOS you have then either on the motherboard manufacturer's website, the BIOS manufacturer, or using www.google.com do a search for beep codes. Since that is the first symptom that should be your starting point. If you have another computer, or a family member or friend, you can test individual components such as RAM, Video Card, and Power Supply.
 
Ok, I'll get on that. However, the beeping thing was like one level UP from my current situation. I'd actually feel alot better if i could get back to the beeping problem instead of this blasted powering down. I'll definitely try the PSU on a different comp, that's a good idea. The mobo might be a bit of a problem. I can try swapping in my 250 watt PSU in there with minimum components installed (250 should be ok with just the mobo, proc, and vid. card, right? enough to test it anyway...). So I'll give that a shot and get those beep codes. I feel much better having a few things to try now (i was feeling very helpless before), so thank you.
 
Umm...let's say I did fry the mobo with the CMOS jumper in the wrong position or the RAM not being all the way in. Would any of this be covered under warranty (everything is brand new)?
 
Hi

1 long beep indicates memory problem - poorly seated or defective RAM. AWARD BIOS BEEP CODES

Sounds silly, but have you taken the chip out and taken a look on the underside? - does it look burnt/cracked?

The best thing about a heat damaged processor is its ability to generate any error it feels like.. running a screwed processor for a while usually means screwed mobo, and if you persist in attempting to boot it up without identifying whether you have fried the cpu then running a screwed mobo for while usually ends up with screwed PCI cards.. expensive peripherals - can you afford not to take the chip out and have a look?

Great Tip: Ask your friend to lend you his PC.. tell him you need it for a couple of hours to test your peripherals and ensure they are working - when he gets bored waiting, tell him you'll buy him a beer and return his PC this afternoon.. meanwhile, take out his processor and try it in your PC.. (this works better if you have a cute sister, buy her a new lipstick and ask her to entertain him downstairs while you work out why your pc is trashed..)


EDIT: Having just noticed you posted again: TAKE YOUR CHIP OUT! - If it doesn't look cooked then take it back for replacement.. if it does, then borrow a new processor from a friend (same friend as above!), take it back to the shop for a complete replacement (they will look at the chip to see if it has OC'd.. don't take it back with a burnt out one in!!)

EDIT2: Just found a site showing IBM original bios beep codes.. 1 long beep indicates a knackered system board... More Beep Codes

Regards

Nick
 
Thanks Nick, I'm at work right now but when I get home I'll check the proc (I'd be really surprised if it is fried, though, because it ran at only 41 degrees C under moderate load.
 
Back
Top