Biden declares a winter emergency for Texas.

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Ken g6

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Yep, twice a year we get this "where I'm from" macho blustering bullshit from citizens each proclaiming to the other side how wimpy they are for not tolerating X. The North rags on the South's handling of Snow Storms, while the South rags on the North's inability to handle a couple of days above 100.

Where I grew up in the South, there was no such thing as a Snow Plow. Whatever snow fell stayed there until it was compacted into ice, at which point it would remain for days on days. It was a massive hazard. When I moved up North, it became easy to see that many homes here were not equipped to handle 100+ days because they don't have air conditioning of any type installed. They basically become brick ovens in the summer.

And as a point to that, whenever it's extreme people still die, especially amongst the homeless populations. Chicago is already under several feet of snow, and while points counters will beat their chest that the core of Chicago will remain open, they won't bother to mention the poor suburbs, the homeless, the fringes, will become nearly inaccessible with nearly 4 feet of accumulated snow on the ground. The same way that after a week long heatwave in Georgia and Florida, people still die. There's still heatstrokes. There's still homeless untended to.

Extreme weather of any type is a danger and needs the fastest response possible and the acceptance of outside help to prevent as many deaths as possible. I'd rather people focused on that vs. the "unga dunga my dirt stronger than your dirt" bullshit.
Come to think of it, measures to reduce CO2 emissions should help both extremes. For northerners, fossil fuel furnaces should be replaced by electric heat pumps. They'll need simple resistive heating backup for weather like this, but in the summer a heat pump can relatively easily be run backwards for air conditioning.

For southerners, y'all need better insulation. That will reduce your cooling bills in the summer, but would also help retain heat in weather like this. Even if the power goes out.
 

shortylickens

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I've spent half my life in the North and half my life in the South.

From what I can tell Cold people are tougher but complain less. Hot people are not quite as tough but they complain more.

The REALLY tough people can handle anything and complain very little.

They represent 0.1 percent of the population in 21st century America.
 

cytg111

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Based on the OT thread, and whats hitting texas, this is a good idea!

Im not a huge biden guy, but it's nice to see this stuff not bring politicized
He could make them choose? Vaccines OR emergency help with the snow flakes?
 

cytg111

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Do you honestly not remember Donald Trump?
Seriously.
Did you just do a total brain dump on the last 4 years?
Take a look at the link in my sig. With that tool in hand you can now grow an sense of sarcasm and humor ... even in adulthood.


;).

Its precisely because I remember I made that post.
 
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shortylickens

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Fenixgoon

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You remember how windmills gives you cancer?

I am pretty sure I caught cancer from watching this clip, so, maybe?

"When it got cold in Texas, windmills failed and people died"

there's going to be a lot of that floating around. i've already seen it from a few texas friends. even though wind generation was above anticipated output, and other sources fell well short of demand. of course, people would actually have to read well-informed news articles rather than op-eds.

 

Zorba

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That works like 5% of the time up here. It's usually too wet and heavy. Works for the light fluffy stuff okay.
Yeah, I don't think it actually worked for her. This snow is much heavier than I was expecting for how cold it was.
 

Zorba

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Keep on keepin' on with your partisan bickering. You don't at all resemble that of which you proclaim to hate.

Texas is perhaps the most diverse state in the entire US - but all you see is Yes/No/0/1/Red/Blue.
Meanwhile Trump did with hold funds to California and PR for their natural disasters. Most of PR was out of power for months.
 
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Zorba

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ERCOT shut off my fucking power in rolling blackouts, usually 45 minutes long, nine times since 2AM. Even all throughout the middle of day when it was nice and sunny and got up to 27. I'm loving the 5 inches of snow I got but holy shit I thought I was living in a first world nation in the US, not fucking Tijuana. Will definitely have my power shut off another ten times before it gets in the 30s tomorrow, no way Texas' shitty power grid can handle the nighttime low being 9 tonight in my area.

I have a feeling that there is Enron shit going on with natural gas right now.

Also, there is supposed to be a priority system for Natural Gas where industry and commercial gets kicked off to protect residential and power. I haven't heard of that happening at all. My huge office complex that has only been at 20% capacity for the last year is still open today. Shut that shit down so a neighborhood can stay on.
 

kage69

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Keep on keepin' on with your partisan bickering. You don't at all resemble that of which you proclaim to hate.

Texas is perhaps the most diverse state in the entire US - but all you see is Yes/No/0/1/Red/Blue.

lol

Says the whiny pissant who's been regurgitating right wing agitprop for 4 years, who never misses a chance to shit on California, and who strangely wasn't preaching this new nonpartisan togetherness when Cali was burning. Instead, IIRC, you decided to join in with the talking heads and bash their homelessness problem, democractic governence.

Until you can hold conservatives to the same standards you do liberals, you're always going to be a joke. Illustrating that in a post is a description of you, not your dreaded democrats. Or did we all miss you calling out Trump and his enablers for setting a new low in Federal disaster responses? Link it up, prove me wrong.
 

PingSpike

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I live in northern NY. I think a week here would probably be enough to break a Texan's spirit.

I once watched this history show about the revolutionary war. It had a bunch of letters from British soldiers written as they marched through the wilderness of NY. This one guy was going on and on about the muggy oppressive heat, the gigantic insects devouring them and the constant swamps. I'm sure it sucked and it does get buggy and muggy up here during the summer but I couldn't help but laugh since he made it sound like he was in the Amazon rainforest.
 

Zorba

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You remember how windmills gives you cancer?

I am pretty sure I caught cancer from watching this clip, so, maybe?

"When it got cold in Texas, windmills failed and people died"

I'm not watching that shit, but I assume no mention of all the natural gas issues. Big difference, at least in the SPP wind is performing on plan, natural gas supply is shit, though.

Even with the turbines frozen, wind is still providing more power to SPP than hydro and nuclear combined. As the sun stays out more wind is defrosting, which NG wells are still frozen up.
 

trenchfoot

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I like it a lot that those Democrats in Texas are getting federal assistance. The Repubs? They're not going to acknowledge Biden's help in any appreciable way anyhow because evil socialism, right? lol
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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I once watched this history show about the revolutionary war. It had a bunch of letters from British soldiers written as they marched through the wilderness of NY. This one guy was going on and on about the muggy oppressive heat, the gigantic insects devouring them and the constant swamps. I'm sure it sucked and it does get buggy and muggy up here during the summer but I couldn't help but laugh since he made it sound like he was in the Amazon rainforest.
It can get pretty bad in the summers, if you're near water. Lots of humidity, temp can actually get in the upper 80's, and yes the insects are everywhere. It's still worse in the south though.
 
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pauldun170

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Good ole New York.
Perfect place for when you can't make up your mind what is your favorite kind of weather.

Based on quotes from news reports such as
"Pray for us, this is going to be rough,"
"Please pray for our elderly and vulnerable populations,"

It appears that all Texas needs is Thoughts and Prayers.
Does the Federal government really need to step in?
If it works for School shootings, it should work for a little freezey pipey, slippy slidey ice cold power outages.