Biden declares a winter emergency for Texas.

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Captante

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Are you all getting the bit that this is happening again? This time because it's too hot?

Really it's happening again for the EXACT same reason it happened over the winter and will happen AGAIN the next time there's a strain of any kind on their half-a$$ed power grid.


Explanation = GOP-approved greed, piss-poor planning AND DROVES of astoundingly stupid/ignorant Tex-A$$ voters.




with ERCOT's support

Now THAT is a laugh! :p
 

esquared

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MrSquished

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Texans will likely have higher charges on their power bills for years to come to cover gas utilities', electric cooperatives' and electric companies’ financial losses from the storm and prevent customers from having to pay huge bills in a short time.
Lawmakers are close to passing bills that would allow companies to seek billions of dollars in state-approved bonds backed by charges on customers’ bills to stabilize the state’s distressed energy market.


they really love to privatize profits, socialize losses
Fucking Texas lolol

The GOP that has a stranglehold on power there will just blame Obama, AOC, wind turbines and Karl Marx and the fucking idiot ignorant regressive GQP base will eat it up.
 

K1052

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Maybe the state would like to look into why 10GW of thermal power is offline in the hottest parts of the year. Three times normal.
 
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Fenixgoon

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Wow someone made 2 funny and clever commentary posts in a row. I'm not sure what to make of this 😳
 

shortylickens

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Heh. Maybe there's some reason Ercot is calling for people to conserve electricity. The prospect of you enduring a widespread power blackout is amusing, even if it means a lot of other people suffer in the process. OTOH, it's unlikely you'd learn anything, anyway.
I dont think he's a texan I think he was making a joke in general.

And honestly the real problem here is our over reliance on comfort devices.
Nobody on earth had electric air cooling until very recently and all of a sudden America has a major obesity epidemic and people are just sitting around inside all day with the A/C cranked up sucking juice from the power grid like there isn't an energy crisis.

They need to get outside, jog, eat healthy, lose weight, and not rely on A/C so much. Maybe allow more businesses to let people work in shorts, set the temp up a few degrees, and reduce the strain on their power grid. When at home you can just shut if off and open a window. Drink more water. At night set the temp to where you can get to sleep with no covers. Thats all you need.
 

Paratus

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Read the first paragraph.
We're murdering earth and it didnt even start until 1901.

It has been 95 degrees and 90% humidity this week. What you are suggesting is akin to telling someone from up north to just do without heat in the winter.

The negative environmental impacts from air conditioning is entirely dependent on the power source providing the electricity. The greener the grid the less harmful it is.
 

balloonshark

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I dont think he's a texan I think he was making a joke in general.

And honestly the real problem here is our over reliance on comfort devices.
Nobody on earth had electric air cooling until very recently and all of a sudden America has a major obesity epidemic and people are just sitting around inside all day with the A/C cranked up sucking juice from the power grid like there isn't an energy crisis.

They need to get outside, jog, eat healthy, lose weight, and not rely on A/C so much. Maybe allow more businesses to let people work in shorts, set the temp up a few degrees, and reduce the strain on their power grid. When at home you can just shut if off and open a window. Drink more water. At night set the temp to where you can get to sleep with no covers. Thats all you need.
See post #359 up above.

Seriously though I live in WV in a two bedroom all electric apt. with baseboard heat and one undersized in window air conditioning unit. My electric bill is on the average payment plan and I pay $63 a month. People who say air uses a bunch of a electric are full of crap. My unit runs for hours at a time in the summer and I leave it on 24/7 once it hits mid 60's and sunny. This upstairs apt. just gets too hot and even with the air going I can only get it down to 75F in here.
 
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fskimospy

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It has been 95 degrees and 90% humidity this week. What you are suggesting is akin to telling someone from up north to just do without heat in the winter.

The negative environmental impacts from air conditioning is entirely dependent on the power source providing the electricity. The greener the grid the less harmful it is.
As someone who grew up in Pennsylvania we did endure 95 degrees with 90% humidity with no AC. (FOR AMERICA)

But yes you are entirely right. The answer is to fix our power generation, not expect Americans to give up on AC.
 

Fenixgoon

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I dont think he's a texan I think he was making a joke in general.

And honestly the real problem here is our over reliance on comfort devices.
Nobody on earth had electric air cooling until very recently and all of a sudden America has a major obesity epidemic and people are just sitting around inside all day with the A/C cranked up sucking juice from the power grid like there isn't an energy crisis.

They need to get outside, jog, eat healthy, lose weight, and not rely on A/C so much. Maybe allow more businesses to let people work in shorts, set the temp up a few degrees, and reduce the strain on their power grid. When at home you can just shut if off and open a window. Drink more water. At night set the temp to where you can get to sleep with no covers. Thats all you need.
or just weatherize the fucking power systems. it's not an unsolvable problem by any means.
 

MichaelMay

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Well, they would rather freeze or be cooked to death than to have any of dat dere sochulism governmental regulations so let them.

Stupid people do stupid things, you can't fix that.
 

Wreckem

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See post #359 up above.

Seriously though I live in WV in a two bedroom all electric apt. with baseboard heat and one undersized in window air conditioning unit. My electric bill is on the average payment plan and I pay $63 a month. People who say air uses a bunch of a electric are full of crap. My unit runs for hours at a time in the summer and I leave it on 24/7 once it hits mid 60's and sunny. This upstairs apt. just gets too hot and even with the air going I can only get it down to 75F in here.

I have a 2760 sqft two story house in the DFW area. I run my AC at 70 from 5:00pm to 5:00am and 74 5:00am to 5:00pm. My avg montyhly bill for June-Sept is around $120. I use around 1000-1200kwh a month during summer. Im around 500-600kwh the other 8 months. My heat is on gas. My gas bill is $30(minimum charge) for 9 months out of the year and anywhere from $60-90 a month for Dec-Feb.

Soon as my pool is done and the variable speed pump is running 12hrs a day I’m sure it’s going to increase my bill more than my AC. The pool heater will definitely jack up my gas bills for Oct, March, and April, but we will be able to comfortably swim 8 months out of the year. August will be the test to see if the pool will also need a chiller as the pool is exposed to western sun but is completely shaded until 11am and after 6pm. Thankfully; If we need a chiller, chillers don’t use much energy.

I thought about adding a solar panel system but the only place I could put it faces WNW…
 
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Lanyap

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Fucking Texas lolol

The GOP that has a stranglehold on power there will just blame Obama, AOC, wind turbines and Karl Marx and the fucking idiot ignorant regressive GQP base will eat it up.


You forgot Biden.
 

Lanyap

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From a tweet:

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ERCOT: our infrastructure was simply not designed for temperatures this cold

also ERCOT: our infrastructure was simply not designed for temperatures this hot



And they can’t blame climate change, can they.
 
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Paratus

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As someone who grew up in Pennsylvania we did endure 95 degrees with 90% humidity with no AC. (FOR AMERICA)

But yes you are entirely right. The answer is to fix our power generation, not expect Americans to give up on AC.
I too grew up in PA (although we had AC) and while it got hot, it was hot hot for maybe a month around August. Granted the schools didn’t have AC and the first couple of weeks sucked.

SE Texas on the other hand has 4 seasons. Fall, spring, summer, and Hell. And hell is 6 months long - from mid April until mid October.
 
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