Bicyclists have started doing a new thing that makes me furious

[Oyeve]

For the first scenario, if I'm moving at a good clip, on a city street mind you (where the speed limit is no more than 30 mph), and I'm close to an intersection, yes, the vehicle should have slowed down.

As for the second scenario, same thing. The rules of the road are that an individual may not cross another's right-of-way until it is safe to do so. I'm sorry that you don't understand that basic notion.

Oh, I understand it alright, its just I dont agree with it. Fucking bikers think they dont have to stop or even slowdown most of the time so when I see a biker whining and bitching in the street because a car cut them off and the biker didnt even try to slow down I just point and laugh at them.

 

[Zargon]

Do you follow the same logic for people who drive cars?

If so...

DEATH TO ALL AMERICANS WHO DRIVE 66MPH OR ROLL STOP SIGNS! Failure to signal should be punishable by dismemberment. God forbid a car blows a stop sign/red light (they never do that right?)

I dont think there is a state left with a 65MPH speed limit, besides IL till jan 01 2014


you think the people bitching in here are OK with people blowing stop signs? those people are assholes, the reason we arent bitching about it here is because this is about jerkbag cyclists

obv a car doing it is much more dangerous to others.

 

[Brainonska511]

Oh, I understand it alright, its just I dont agree with it. Fucking bikers think they dont have to stop or even slowdown most of the time so when I see a biker whining and bitching in the street because a car cut them off and the biker didnt even try to slow down I just point and laugh at them.

Why didn't you keep it simple and state that you're just an idiot that can't distinguish between clearly different situations instead of writing out a small paragraph of nonsense?

 

[Ns1]

you think the people bitching in here are OK with people blowing stop signs? those people are assholes, the reason we arent bitching about it here is because this is about jerkbag cyclists

The vibe I get from this thread (and other cyclist threads) is that cyclists are assholes for not following the law 100% of the time (blowing through stops, etc). I never see the same hate thrown against drivers unless they do something like kill 7 pedestrians (if they kill 7 cyclists it's +50k points, +2 lives, and go to bonus round)

 

[JulesMaximus]

The vibe I get from this thread (and other cyclist threads) is that cyclists are assholes for not following the law 100% of the time (blowing through stops, etc). I never see the same hate thrown against drivers unless they do something like kill 7 pedestrians (if they kill 7 cyclists it's +50k points, +2 lives, and go to bonus round)

Hate? We have people here promoting that sort of behavior toward cyclists.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

The vibe I get from this thread (and other cyclist threads) is that cyclists are assholes for not following the law 100% of the time (blowing through stops, etc). I never see the same hate thrown against drivers unless they do something like kill 7 pedestrians (if they kill 7 cyclists it's +50k points, +2 lives, and go to bonus round)

No, I get equally upset with drivers who blow through stop signs, decide the left turn lane is annoying and use the crosswalk instead, weave in and out of stopped traffic because, dammit, you're in the way, and travel three abreast in residential neighborhoods 20 mph under the speed limit because WE HAVE A RIGHT TO THE ROAD TOO. Some drivers are assholes. Some cyclists are too. Try to avoid being an asshole while driving a car or riding a bike and we don't have a problem.

 

[Zargon]

The vibe I get from this thread (and other cyclist threads) is that cyclists are assholes for not following the law 100% of the time (blowing through stops, etc). I never see the same hate thrown against drivers unless they do something like kill 7 pedestrians (if they kill 7 cyclists it's +50k points, +2 lives, and go to bonus round)

I hate the ones that ride like jerks, I hate most drivers because most of them are jerks. I hate pedestrians that walk like jerks.



look I roll stop signs all the damn time, and I speed.

when there isnt any traffic on off hours

at rush hour I don't!

I always signal, have my lights on ETC.

my biggest pet peeve are the dicks that daisy chain through a busy stop sign behind someone stealing someone elses turn, and the ones that inch out as you left turn in front of them practically hitting you

next up is jerk bag cyclists that hold up traffic riding in the street(when there is a bike lane or not) and then go be a pedestrian at the stop sign and skip it.

they can hold me up but cant be bothered to follow the law when it holds them up? yeah no. hell I use the bike lanes as right turn lanes in town where they got ride of them(only on my motorcycle) at 4 ways, because its great for me, and it speeds up traffic, because when the guy in my lane is going straight, Im not preventing other people from using the stop sign.

I wouldnt do it in a car because there isnt enough lane for it.

No one needs to follow the damn law all the time, but in traffic, for god sakes do it, because it makes us all PREDICTABLE which will reduce accidents.

but if the rest of the road is doing 15+ over, speed up man, you are a hazzard

 

[JulesMaximus]

So if I question your ridiculous statement, you won't answer the questions because they are ridiculous? Come on man...

If they do it once of course not, if they do it on a regular basis and it's a serious hazard, sure. Why the fuck not? The extremely simple and obvious point I was trying to make is there are various degrees of danger, some aren't worth doing shit about like 1MPH speeders, or a single cyclist running a stop sign.

Others are more dangerous, like people (in cars or on bikes) habitually running a stop sign/red light. Ever wonder why certain intersections are targeted for red light cameras (the original intent before it became a cash grab)? Because they are higher than normal areas for accidents.

If cyclists, as a group, disobey rules of the road of course they deserve more attention from the authorities. Just like everyone else.

Of course you assume I thought a cyclist running a stop sign was on the other side of the line even though I never said anything about cyclists. You're being extremely defensive, just like in every other cyclist thread.

I wouldn't say I'm defensive. More annoyed than anything.

 

[Oyeve]

Why didn't you keep it simple and state that you're just an idiot that can't distinguish between clearly different situations instead of writing out a small paragraph of nonsense?

F you. idiot biker. You bike in NY and you get what you deserve. Between you asshole bikers and the assholes in the middle of the street texting on their douchey phones waiting for the light you all deserve to get creamed by a car. Hell, I am tempted to carry a 3ft pole to throw in your spokes.

 

[RampantAndroid]

but if the rest of the road is doing 15+ over, speed up man, you are a hazzard

I won't say 15 over is what you should do, but certainly being in the left lane do 60 when the road is rolling at 70 is a bad idea and is asking for an accident. But this who thing belongs in a "if not passing get to the right" thread...

I dont think there is a state left with a 65MPH speed limit, besides IL till jan 01 2014


you think the people bitching in here are OK with people blowing stop signs? those people are assholes, the reason we arent bitching about it here is because this is about jerkbag cyclists

obv a car doing it is much more dangerous to others.

In PA there are 65 MPH zones (PA 222 is one of them).

As for speeding and such, sure. I do. I also saw a guy in cap hill saturday night in Seattle (I was on drunk duty picking up people. Ugh.) completely roll through more than one red light. I laid on the horn and hit him with high beams.

Drivers can be jagoffs too.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

F you. idiot biker. You bike in NY and you get what you deserve. Between you asshole bikers and the assholes in the middle of the street texting on their douchey phones waiting for the light you all deserve to get creamed by a car. Hell, I am tempted to carry a 3ft pole to throw in your spokes.

Sorry cyclists but I literally LOL'd at this. I've seen the youtube videos of tardcicles in new yawk... Geez.

 

[theeedude]

That's illegal, at least in my state. A bicycle is considered a vehicle, the same as a car, and when using the road, is subject to the same rules of the road. If that means getting in the left lane to make a left turn, you do it, with appropriate signaling as required by law. If your presence in the left lane is slowing down other traffic, who cares? They'd have to slow down if you were a car turning left too.

Inattentive drivers are a legitimate danger, moreso to cyclists because of the vast disparity of weight. But cyclists who pick and choose which laws they want to obey on the fly are also increasing their risk and the risk of others on the road. I'm not expecting you to act as a vehicle until it suits you personally to act as a pedestrian, and expectations are how we avoid accidents. Granted, I come from a city whose attitude towards bikes is like Amsterdam bred with China, so maybe I'm slightly more aware of cyclists than the people near where you ride. But that also means I see my fair share of cyclists who think laws don't apply to them, and invariably they're creating far more of a hazard than the cyclists who do everything exactly by the book, including appropriate use of turning lanes.

Usually it's not safe for a biker to cross lanes of traffic to get into a left turn lane, because cars don't slow down. Usually it's safer to cross the street on the right, turn left, then cross it again on the right. Not necessarily in the crosswalk itself, but near it on the right. Needless to say it is illegal for a car to do that, but often it's the safest thing to do on a bicycle. Bicycle is not a car.

 

[theeedude]

Typical elitist bicyclist.

Pick and choose which laws you want to follow, based on what benefits you the most.

I've done this in front of cops, never had an issue.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Usually it's not safe for a biker to cross lanes of traffic to get into a left turn lane, because cars don't slow down. Usually it's safer to cross the street on the right, turn left, then cross it again on the right. Not necessarily in the crosswalk itself, but near it on the right. Needless to say it is illegal for a car to do that, but often it's the safest thing to do on a bicycle. Bicycle is not a car.

I've seen cyclists do this too. Never really bothers me, I can understand why some would do it and I've never seen a cop stop someone for it either.

That said, I almost always get over and use the left turn lane. I've been caught out in that lane unable to trip a light too and end up blowing through a red as a result. This even happens on the motorcycle sometimes. A few times I've been unable to get over to the left turn lane and had to do the hit the crosswalk buzzer thing.

I've also had people honk at me for riding in the left lane on the approach to a light even though I'm going almost the same speed they are but I'm taking a lane and they hate that. Impatient fucks. I've flipped people off for that.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I've done this in front of cops, never had an issue.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I've seen cyclists do this too. Never really bothers me, I can understand why some would do it and I've never seen a cop stop someone for it either.

That said, I almost always get over and use the left turn lane. I've been caught out in that lane unable to trip a light too and end up blowing through a red as a result. This even happens on the motorcycle sometimes. A few times I've been unable to get over to the left turn lane and had to do the hit the crosswalk buzzer thing.

I've also had people honk at me for riding in the left lane on the approach to a light even though I'm going almost the same speed they are but I'm taking a lane and they hate that. Impatient fucks. I've flipped people off for that.

Just because a cop is not out to harass someone doesn't mean it's ok to do it.

Plus, bikes don't have tags. It's a huge PITA to try and deal with them.


Put tags on them, make it easy to ticket them, two birds with one stone.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Just because a cop is not out to harass someone doesn't mean it's ok to do it.

Plus, bikes don't have tags. It's a huge PITA to try and deal with them.

Put tags on them, make it easy to ticket them, two birds with one stone.

Well, I hate to break it to you but there are times when you have to break the rules. Like when you're stopped at a light and it won't change because you aren't a 2 ton hunk of metal.

It happens. Don't get your panties in a wad if you see it happen.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Really the only thing that bothers me is when they severely impede traffic during rush hour.

 

[RampantAndroid]

I've done this in front of cops, never had an issue.

And I've sped past cops and not been touched. What's your point?

 

[RampantAndroid]

Well, I hate to break it to you but there are times when you have to break the rules. Like when you're stopped at a light and it won't change because you aren't a 2 ton hunk of metal.

It happens. Don't get your panties in a wad if you see it happen.

That's a far cry from what people have mentioned before where cars are present. A lot of places are putting laws in place allowing motorcycles and bikes to run reds that won't change if you wait a while before running it (and it's clear).

 

[JulesMaximus]

Really the only thing that bothers me is when they severely impede traffic during rush hour.

Bike lanes help with that. I've never felt impeded by a cyclist in decades of commuting in rush hour traffic in SoCal. Maybe it's a local thing to your area though.

 

[theeedude]

I've seen cyclists do this too. Never really bothers me, I can understand why some would do it and I've never seen a cop stop someone for it either.

That said, I almost always get over and use the left turn lane. I've been caught out in that lane unable to trip a light too and end up blowing through a red as a result. This even happens on the motorcycle sometimes. A few times I've been unable to get over to the left turn lane and had to do the hit the crosswalk buzzer thing.

I've also had people honk at me for riding in the left lane on the approach to a light even though I'm going almost the same speed they are but I'm taking a lane and they hate that. Impatient fucks. I've flipped people off for that.

The way to make it trigger is to have your wheel aligned right on top of the trigger wire in the pavement. That's where they usually put the bike sign for that reason. That maximizes the cross inductance.
But my issue is that sometimes it's dangerous to cross traffic to get to the turn lane from the bike lane.

 

[theeedude]

Really the only thing that bothers me is when they severely impede traffic during rush hour.

I think what bothers you is bikers riding past you when you are stuck in rush hour in your car.

 

[alkemyst]

Well, I hate to break it to you but there are times when you have to break the rules. Like when you're stopped at a light and it won't change because you aren't a 2 ton hunk of metal.

It happens. Don't get your panties in a wad if you see it happen.

QFT. Technically one should probably unmounts and walk the bike through the crosswalk, but most cops know giving a ticket for this would be idiotic and more than likely thrown out anyway.

I still doubt many of our 'bikers' here are the problems on the road they are claiming to be.

 

[coldmeat]

nvm