Bibles on the School Bus

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: pontifex
i'm no religion expert, but how can you call yourself a christian but not belong to an organized relgious denomination? isn't that how you become a christian?

I don't want to hijack the thread out of respect for the OP, but I will say that being Christian in the simplest terms means believing Jesus is the resurrected son of God who paid the sin debt of all on the cross. You don't need a church to be Christian. I attend several churches (non denominational) to meet and spend time with other believers. You become a Christian by faith, it can't be forced.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: TBone48
I'm Christian, and I don't think the school bus driver should be approaching little kids like this. It's not cool to get into this with kids so young, especially without consulting the parents first. I predict Mr. Jim will be job hunting soon.

i thought brainwashing worked best when they are young? 😕

I'm confused; what do you mean by "brainwashing"?😕

You've never heard the term before?

Of course I've heard the term, I don't understand the context.

He's saying that forcing kids to be Christian (in this instance) is tantamount of brainwashing instead of letting them "figure it out" on their own.

Yeah, but that's no good according to most organized religions because kids who are allowed to 'figure it out' end up becoming atheists 😛

A lot of people break away anyway, whether the control was lax or hardcore "indoctrination".

That wasn't quite my point though. The point is that most people allowed to 'figure it out on their own' end up realizing that all of the major orgnized religions are full of $hit with few exceptions.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
:music:Theeee bibles on the bus spread in-jus-tice, in-jus-tice, in-jus-tice:music:
:music:The bibles on the bus spread in-jus-tice, allll throughhhh the districttttt:music:

that made me lol

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: pontifex
i'm no religion expert, but how can you call yourself a christian but not belong to an organized relgious denomination? isn't that how you become a christian?

I don't want to hijack the thread out of respect for the OP, but I will say that being Christian in the simplest terms means believing Jesus is the resurrected son of God who paid the sin debt of all on the cross. You don't need a church to be Christian. I attend several churches (non denominational) to meet and spend time with other believers. You become a Christian by faith, it can't be forced.

You just fired every missionary everywhere throughout time.

 

[myusername]

I just wanted to post and clarify for anyone else who didn't see it .. I reread the OP, and missed that the driver asked the girl to *ask her father* if it was okay.
Still inappropriate, but a little less sinister than I was imagining.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: pontifex
i'm no religion expert, but how can you call yourself a christian but not belong to an organized relgious denomination? isn't that how you become a christian?

I don't want to hijack the thread out of respect for the OP, but I will say that being Christian in the simplest terms means believing Jesus is the resurrected son of God who paid the sin debt of all on the cross. You don't need a church to be Christian. I attend several churches (non denominational) to meet and spend time with other believers. You become a Christian by faith, it can't be forced.

so chsristianity isn't a religion?

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: pontifex
i'm no religion expert, but how can you call yourself a christian but not belong to an organized relgious denomination? isn't that how you become a christian?

I don't want to hijack the thread out of respect for the OP, but I will say that being Christian in the simplest terms means believing Jesus is the resurrected son of God who paid the sin debt of all on the cross. You don't need a church to be Christian. I attend several churches (non denominational) to meet and spend time with other believers. You become a Christian by faith, it can't be forced.

You just fired every missionary everywhere throughout time.

I don't see how. People still need to hear the Gospel in order to learn about Christ and what He did.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: pontifex
i'm no religion expert, but how can you call yourself a christian but not belong to an organized relgious denomination? isn't that how you become a christian?

I don't want to hijack the thread out of respect for the OP, but I will say that being Christian in the simplest terms means believing Jesus is the resurrected son of God who paid the sin debt of all on the cross. You don't need a church to be Christian. I attend several churches (non denominational) to meet and spend time with other believers. You become a Christian by faith, it can't be forced.

You just fired every missionary everywhere throughout time.

I don't see how. People still need to hear the Gospel in order to learn about Christ and what He did.

i think he meant the part in bold

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: pontifex
i'm no religion expert, but how can you call yourself a christian but not belong to an organized relgious denomination? isn't that how you become a christian?

I don't want to hijack the thread out of respect for the OP, but I will say that being Christian in the simplest terms means believing Jesus is the resurrected son of God who paid the sin debt of all on the cross. You don't need a church to be Christian. I attend several churches (non denominational) to meet and spend time with other believers. You become a Christian by faith, it can't be forced.

so chsristianity isn't a religion?

As far as I see it, no. You can go to church every day, but if you don't have faith in Christ as savior it doesn't mean anything. Some of the most "religious" people don't have a clue as to what Jesus taught. Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, whatever. If you don't have the faith it's meaningless.

 

[JackBurton]

When someone offers me a Bible, I offer them a letter. I think it's a fair trade. 🙂

 

[pontifex]

😕

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: pontifex
i'm no religion expert, but how can you call yourself a christian but not belong to an organized relgious denomination? isn't that how you become a christian?

I don't want to hijack the thread out of respect for the OP, but I will say that being Christian in the simplest terms means believing Jesus is the resurrected son of God who paid the sin debt of all on the cross. You don't need a church to be Christian. I attend several churches (non denominational) to meet and spend time with other believers. You become a Christian by faith, it can't be forced.

so chsristianity isn't a religion?

As far as I see it, no. You can go to church every day, but if you don't have faith in Christ as savior it doesn't mean anything. Some of the most "religious" people don't have a clue as to what Jesus taught. Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, whatever. If you don't have the faith it's meaningless.

 

[Agnostos Insania]

Originally posted by: mwtgg
A lot of people break away anyway, whether the control was lax or hardcore "indoctrination".

My family's an example of it. My mom is sort of quasi-religious (she wants it all to be true) and all the kids went to "Religious Education". I attended the classes until I was 12 or so and voiced my dispeasure over it.

I had fun messing around with the Catholic children's books and stuff though. I don't know why I remember it, but I remember there being Jesus on a cross on one of the pages in the colorful book and me drawing on it. I drew a circle around Jesus, made lines intersecting it, and had a speech bubble from Jesus saying "Spin to win!" like he was on the wheel of the Wheel of Fortune show. I loved that show.

Originally posted by: Eeezee
That wasn't quite my point though. The point is that most people allowed to 'figure it out on their own' end up realizing that all of the major orgnized religions are full of $hit with few exceptions.

What do you consider organized and what do you consider the exceptions?

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
That wasn't quite my point though. The point is that most people allowed to 'figure it out on their own' end up realizing that all of the major orgnized religions are full of $hit with few exceptions.

My feeling is that God (assuming there is one) would appreciate 10 pious believers more than 1billion sheep. Unfortunately, most religions do not agree.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: mwtgg
A lot of people break away anyway, whether the control was lax or hardcore "indoctrination".

My family's an example of it. My mom is sort of quasi-religious (she wants it all to be true) and I went to some "Religious Education" classes until I was 10 or so and voiced my dispeasure over it. I had fun messing around with the Catholic children's books and stuff though.
I don't know why I remember it, but I remember there being Jesus on a cross on one of the pages in the colorful book and me drawing on it. I drew a circle around it, made lines intersecting it, and had a speech bubble from Jesus saying "Spin to win!" like he was on the wheel of the Wheel of Fortune show.

Originally posted by: Eeezee
That wasn't quite my point though. The point is that most people allowed to 'figure it out on their own' end up realizing that all of the major orgnized religions are full of $hit with few exceptions.

What do you consider organized and what do you consider the exceptions?

lmao!!! your recounting of your childhood class made me lol
edit: thanks alot! i'm now sitting here in my chair laughing my ass off while running that picture through my mind

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Eeezee
That wasn't quite my point though. The point is that most people allowed to 'figure it out on their own' end up realizing that all of the major orgnized religions are full of $hit with few exceptions.

My feeling is that God (assuming there is one) would appreciate 10 pious believers more than 1billion sheep. Unfortunately, most religions do not agree.

My point in a nutshell.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: mwtgg
A lot of people break away anyway, whether the control was lax or hardcore "indoctrination".

My family's an example of it. My mom is sort of quasi-religious (she wants it all to be true) and all the kids went to "Religious Education". I attended the classes until I was 12 or so and voiced my dispeasure over it.

I had fun messing around with the Catholic children's books and stuff though. I don't know why I remember it, but I remember there being Jesus on a cross on one of the pages in the colorful book and me drawing on it. I drew a circle around Jesus, made lines intersecting it, and had a speech bubble from Jesus saying "Spin to win!" like he was on the wheel of the Wheel of Fortune show. I loved that show.

LOL

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: mwtgg
A lot of people break away anyway, whether the control was lax or hardcore "indoctrination".

My family's an example of it. My mom is sort of quasi-religious (she wants it all to be true) and I went to some "Religious Education" classes until I was 10 or so and voiced my dispeasure over it. I had fun messing around with the Catholic children's books and stuff though.
I don't know why I remember it, but I remember there being Jesus on a cross on one of the pages in the colorful book and me drawing on it. I drew a circle around it, made lines intersecting it, and had a speech bubble from Jesus saying "Spin to win!" like he was on the wheel of the Wheel of Fortune show.

Originally posted by: Eeezee
That wasn't quite my point though. The point is that most people allowed to 'figure it out on their own' end up realizing that all of the major orgnized religions are full of $hit with few exceptions.

What do you consider organized and what do you consider the exceptions?

lmao!!! your recounting of your childhood class made me lol

You should have drawn in some Romans chanting, "big money, big money." 🙂

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: mwtgg
A lot of people break away anyway, whether the control was lax or hardcore "indoctrination".

My family's an example of it. My mom is sort of quasi-religious (she wants it all to be true) and all the kids went to "Religious Education". I attended the classes until I was 12 or so and voiced my dispeasure over it.

I had fun messing around with the Catholic children's books and stuff though. I don't know why I remember it, but I remember there being Jesus on a cross on one of the pages in the colorful book and me drawing on it. I drew a circle around Jesus, made lines intersecting it, and had a speech bubble from Jesus saying "Spin to win!" like he was on the wheel of the Wheel of Fortune show. I loved that show.

LOL

WTF

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: mwtgg
A lot of people break away anyway, whether the control was lax or hardcore "indoctrination".

My family's an example of it. My mom is sort of quasi-religious (she wants it all to be true) and all the kids went to "Religious Education". I attended the classes until I was 12 or so and voiced my dispeasure over it.

I had fun messing around with the Catholic children's books and stuff though. I don't know why I remember it, but I remember there being Jesus on a cross on one of the pages in the colorful book and me drawing on it. I drew a circle around Jesus, made lines intersecting it, and had a speech bubble from Jesus saying "Spin to win!" like he was on the wheel of the Wheel of Fortune show. I loved that show.

LOL

now i'm crying because i'm laughing so hard...bahahahahhahahaha

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: mwtgg
A lot of people break away anyway, whether the control was lax or hardcore "indoctrination".

My family's an example of it. My mom is sort of quasi-religious (she wants it all to be true) and I went to some "Religious Education" classes until I was 10 or so and voiced my dispeasure over it. I had fun messing around with the Catholic children's books and stuff though.
I don't know why I remember it, but I remember there being Jesus on a cross on one of the pages in the colorful book and me drawing on it. I drew a circle around it, made lines intersecting it, and had a speech bubble from Jesus saying "Spin to win!" like he was on the wheel of the Wheel of Fortune show.

Originally posted by: Eeezee
That wasn't quite my point though. The point is that most people allowed to 'figure it out on their own' end up realizing that all of the major orgnized religions are full of $hit with few exceptions.

What do you consider organized and what do you consider the exceptions?

lmao!!! your recounting of your childhood class made me lol

You should have drawn in some Romans chanting, "big money, big money." 🙂

stop it! stop it! i can't stop laughing!

 

[JulesMaximus]

Just say no to religion.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: mwtgg
A lot of people break away anyway, whether the control was lax or hardcore "indoctrination".

My family's an example of it. My mom is sort of quasi-religious (she wants it all to be true) and all the kids went to "Religious Education". I attended the classes until I was 12 or so and voiced my dispeasure over it.

I had fun messing around with the Catholic children's books and stuff though. I don't know why I remember it, but I remember there being Jesus on a cross on one of the pages in the colorful book and me drawing on it. I drew a circle around Jesus, made lines intersecting it, and had a speech bubble from Jesus saying "Spin to win!" like he was on the wheel of the Wheel of Fortune show. I loved that show.

Originally posted by: Eeezee
That wasn't quite my point though. The point is that most people allowed to 'figure it out on their own' end up realizing that all of the major orgnized religions are full of $hit with few exceptions.

What do you consider organized and what do you consider the exceptions?

Cults are unorganized but also full of $hit.

I don't know of any exceptions, but I'm not seeking to overgeneralize. I'm just telling you how things are - most of the religions out there that try to recruit you are full of $hit.

Flying Spaghettiy Monster followers are an exception. They're kind of organized?

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: mwtgg
A lot of people break away anyway, whether the control was lax or hardcore "indoctrination".

My family's an example of it. My mom is sort of quasi-religious (she wants it all to be true) and all the kids went to "Religious Education". I attended the classes until I was 12 or so and voiced my dispeasure over it.

I had fun messing around with the Catholic children's books and stuff though. I don't know why I remember it, but I remember there being Jesus on a cross on one of the pages in the colorful book and me drawing on it. I drew a circle around Jesus, made lines intersecting it, and had a speech bubble from Jesus saying "Spin to win!" like he was on the wheel of the Wheel of Fortune show. I loved that show.

Originally posted by: Eeezee
That wasn't quite my point though. The point is that most people allowed to 'figure it out on their own' end up realizing that all of the major orgnized religions are full of $hit with few exceptions.

What do you consider organized and what do you consider the exceptions?

Cults are unorganized but also full of $hit.

I don't know of any exceptions, but I'm not seeking to overgeneralize. I'm just telling you how things are - most of the religions out there that try to recruit you are full of $hit.

Flying Spaghettiy Monster followers are an exception. They're kind of organized?

a religion is just a cult that got too big for Bob's hovel

 

[Agnostos Insania]

I'm glad you guys like my story, I wish I had more. My mom's a packrat for her kid's early life and she might still have that book somewhere. It'd be really great if she did.

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania
What do you consider organized and what do you consider the exceptions?

Cults are unorganized but also full of $hit.

I don't know of any exceptions, but I'm not seeking to overgeneralize. I'm just telling you how things are - most of the religions out there that try to recruit you are full of $hit.

Flying Spaghettiy Monster followers are an exception. They're kind of organized?

I agree. My only exceptions would be Eastern religions based on meditation and self-control. They have their own share of crazy stories as well, but isn't there at least one that is solely based on meditation and improving your mind? Even if they do have their crazy stories, they're not the base of the religion, just stories.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: TBone48
I'm Christian, and I don't think the school bus driver should be approaching little kids like this. It's not cool to get into this with kids so young, especially without consulting the parents first. I predict Mr. Jim will be job hunting soon.

....Because the Bible and Christianity and God is not for kids!!!!!

In a lot of ways it isn't. If it were given a movie rating, it would have to be at least rated R.

Yeah, I think learning about how God killed everyone's kids in Egypt because they disobeyed Him is a great story to teach to kids. I'd also like them to know that they are required to stone any man with long hair. The Bible teaches them that murder and violence is okay so long as you have a good reason.

And then you tell them that all that nasty stuff in the Old Testament doesn't apply because of the "New Covenant" that Jesus formed in the New Testament. And then, when you try to explain that the Ten Commandments really do apply even though they're in the Old Testament, the child's head explodes in confusion and illogic.