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Bible recognizes Lucifer but never mentions his history?

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We all know the following:

1. Lucifer is a fallen arch-angel.
2. How, Why, When?

I've read something about how Lucifer caused a massive battle in the heavens and at one point they were about to win and so forth... What is the origin of this story and how come Bible omits such detail?
 
Maybe the Bible doesn't have everything and that there are other books of scripture out there that shed more light on it?
 
Originally posted by: dabuddha
I do love a discussion of mythology 🙂
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Me too. I believe this story is primarily covered in Paradise Lost by Milton. He got a lot of crap for depicting Lucifer as courageous and noble in that poem.
 
Originally posted by: bobbybe01
Maybe the Bible doesn't have everything and that there are other books of scripture out there that shed more light on it?
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That's exactly what I'm asking for. I don't see why this has to some religious flamewar.
 
There is a LOT left out of the Bible. Anything the Church deems harmful to their dogma = out.

This may not fully explain why Lucifer's story is left out, but did you know they left out some books because it shed too good of a light on Mary Magdalen? It showed her as being higher up in the hierarchy then some of the "disciples". In fact Mary isn't even mentioned AS a disciple.
 
Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
We all know the following:

1. Lucifer is a fallen arch-angel.
2. How, Why, When?

I've read something about how Lucifer caused a massive battle in the heavens and at one point they were about to win and so forth... What is the origin of this story and how come Bible omits such detail?
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You honestly don't know?
 
Just wondering, how can Lucifier's army had ANY chance of winning if God's all powerful. All God had to do was press his magic button and *pooh* Lucifier's a tree-hugging hippie.

BTW, I always thought that Lucifier was a servert of God.
 
I'm pretty sure he's documented more in the lost chapters of the bible, the volumes the vatican wont release.
😛
 
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
We all know the following:

1. Lucifer is a fallen arch-angel.
2. How, Why, When?

I've read something about how Lucifer caused a massive battle in the heavens and at one point they were about to win and so forth... What is the origin of this story and how come Bible omits such detail?
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You honestly don't know?
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i dont, but then again ive never even opened the bible before
 
Originally posted by: jspeicher
I'm pretty sure he's documented more in the lost chapters of the bible, the volumes the vatican wont release.
😛
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I would love to peruse the Vatican archives. Just how much history really is locked away in there
 
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
We all know the following:

1. Lucifer is a fallen arch-angel.
2. How, Why, When?

I've read something about how Lucifer caused a massive battle in the heavens and at one point they were about to win and so forth... What is the origin of this story and how come Bible omits such detail?
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You honestly don't know?
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I do know, it's all about power and politics. The church shed many blood to compile the bible that we see today. I'm just merely curious as to Lucifer's history!
 
There are a lot of non sequiturs in the bible, and a lot of things that seem to contradict other things. Where did Cain and Abel's wives come from? How did there come to be other poeples who dis not seem to have had time to descend from Adam and Eve. There are mentions of heaven and hell and Satan that sore of assume the reader is already familiar with them.
 
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
There is a LOT left out of the Bible. Anything the Church deems harmful to their dogma = out.

This may not fully explain why Lucifer's story is left out, but did you know they left out some books because it shed too good of a light on Mary Magdalen? It showed her as being higher up in the hierarchy then some of the "disciples". In fact Mary isn't even mentioned AS a disciple.
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So Mr. Brown says. Great book by the way.
 
Originally posted by: daveshel
There are a lot of non sequiturs in the bible, and a lot of things that seem to contradict other things. Where did Cain and Abel's wives come from? How did there come to be other poeples who dis not seem to have had time to descend from Adam and Eve. There are mentions of heaven and hell and Satan that sore of assume the reader is already familiar with them.
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Theologians' defense:

The bible never said Adam and Even were only humans God had created at the time. Most agree that they were the first humans, but God also created others within the same generations. This is proven many times in genesis: God gives Cain a seal of protection (from whom?)
 
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
There is a LOT left out of the Bible. Anything the Church deems harmful to their dogma = out.

This may not fully explain why Lucifer's story is left out, but did you know they left out some books because it shed too good of a light on Mary Magdalen? It showed her as being higher up in the hierarchy then some of the "disciples". In fact Mary isn't even mentioned AS a disciple.
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yeah, that book was just published a couple of years back. 😉
 
Originally posted by: OulOat
BTW, I always thought that Lucifier was a servert of God.
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He was, but he was very similar to an AMD server.. slow and unstable. Had he been an Intel server, things may have been different..

btw AMD SUCKS.. slow crap, don't waste your money
 
The word "Lucifer" occurs only once in the Bible, in Isaiah 14:12 of the King James Version - "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"
Most other translations do not use the word "Lucifer", but use "morning star" instead, i.e. the New International Version, "How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!".
I suggest reading the passage in full to get context.

The word "Lucifer" itself is of Latin origin, means "light-bringer", and referred originally to the planet Venus when it was the morning star.

Where did Cain and Abel's wives come from?
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If you wish to take the creation story literally, then it is safe to believe that their wives were their sisters. While incest is rightfully taboo to us today, it was not always to ancient peoples. That the Bible doesn't mention just who their wives was is not important, it doesn't mention a lot of characters' wives.
Absence of evidence != evidence of absence
 
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