GodlessAstronomer
Lifer
- Oct 27, 2007
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Fair enough, my apologies. As the election draws closer it's getting more difficult to sort the honest folks from the hypocrites and liars around here.
Fair enough, my apologies. As the election draws closer it's getting more difficult to sort the honest folks from the hypocrites and liars around here.
I was just about to vouch for his honesty, but that post will hold much more weight than mine would have.
Can you point to anything Obama has done in his campaign that is just terrible, let alone that warrants attempting to link him to Saddam Hussein, Al Qaeda or any other radical Islamic terrorist group?
Do you think it's ethical, let alone fair, to insinuate falsely that he is associated with any of the above?
Do you think it's in the best interest of our nation spread fear and hatered based on such LIES?
Is that your idea of instilling American ideals of truth, justice and democracy?
If so, you are truly living down to your forum nick. :roll:
Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
Originally posted by: SilentRunning
Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
...yes it does. It's the entire subject.
Using his initials is not the same as stating his name. Only those people who are looking for problems can make the leap from initials --> you used his middle name --> you are trying to link him to a deceased middle east dictator.
What if I choose to read his intials B.H.O. as Barack H. Obama? I could care less about his middle name.
Texting has driven society to abbreviating every word they can and it so happens that the way you abbreviate someone's name is with their initials.
I hate what texting has done to the language. I go into the gaming forum and can never figure out what game they are talking about because of the abbreviation.
Are you dense or do you just like pretending to be? You need to read more than the title of the OP. He asked the question about all of the demeaning names and the use of Obama's middle name to strike fear. Let me quote it for you so you don't have to scroll alllll the way back up.
Using his initials has absolutely NOTHING to do with texting. I'm not sure, but I think JFK and LBJ were around before texting became all that popular. What about RAID, SCSI, BIOS? Those became popular because a couple ditsy blondes found it quicker to text? Or because "redundant array of independent disks" is a bit of a mouthful?
It seems we agree on the topic, it's just that your reading comprehension and reasoning skills could use a little work.
You who have such great reading comprehension and reasoning skills tell me where in the OP is Obama's middle name mentioned, let alone striking fear by using it.
- Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: loki8481
despite the fact that I support Obama's candidacy, you're right -- my use of his LEGAL MIDDLE NAME has nothing to do with typing 3 characters instead of 12.
Sure, sure. You use this "shortcut" for Obama, which is 5 characters instead of 3, because you're an honest, but incredibly busy man. And, of course, to save this time that's so important, you do the same for all the other candidates.
Oh, wait. You don't.
Hmmmm, maybe you're just lying through your teeth, after all. :roll:
Drakkon
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- Aug 14, 2001
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BHO - right there middle name mentioned. If your denying the 'H' in BHO is Obama's middle name then what in the world are you arguing? I never mentioned fear. I mentioned a lack of respect for the candidate. Its a certain lack of respect for the office to not refer to the candidates by the name they are running on. I'd whole heartedly agree that the use of 'McSame' is just as degrading.
maybe. I mean, Jesus, look at all these times I've used Barry's initials to refer to him:
http://www.google.com/search?h...ki8481+BHO&btnG=Search
:laugh:
At this point, those spreading the FUD have already hijacked reference for their own cynical, hypocritical purposes to recycle the reference and implied association with Saddam Hussein, radical Islam.
Regardless of whether you mention "fear" or state any "lack of respect for the candidate," the fact that you include a gratuitous reference to Obama's middle name is still spreading the same FUD, and denying it is totally disingenuous.
Pliablemoose
Lifer
- Oct 11, 1999
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Just get candidate Obama to change it, shouldn't be a big thing, he can dump his church of decades when it's convenient, changing his middle name should be as simple as getting his teeth bleached.
What would you like his middle name to be?
Or is he famous enough that he can just use one name like Bono or Cher or Madonna?
What would you like his middle name to be?
Or is he famous enough that he can just use one name like Bono or Cher or Madonna?
Pliablemoose
Lifer
- Oct 11, 1999
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Actually your shit is in your large & small intestines. The average US citizen's ass is typically full of fat cells.
Pliablemoose
Lifer
- Oct 11, 1999
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See, now there's some childish shit, and people get crap for using the junior senator's real name...
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Pliablemoose
Lifer
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Dude, what planet do you live on? I don't think there's enough oxygen there, because you misinterpreted the article.
The charge stands, schoolyard antics. I'm actually out of here for the next couple of months.
See you after the election.
So, again what does that have to do with my post. I don't have to deny what the initials stand for, they are his name. The original poster links BHO to Browser Helper Object so obviously they are not fixated on the middle name. So "H" must stand for "Helper," that is a terrible slight.
If you weren't spending so much time chasing an imaginery rage you would have seen that I was responding to and quoting ZeroIQ who mentioned "fear."
Has McCain's camp done this? I have not seen it from his campaign. If I remember correctly there it's use in a derogatory manor has been denounced at least a few times by McCain and the GOP. You didn't answer the question. I believe I addressed the issue of how I view the use of his name in one of my above posts. I don't think the honest use of his middle name is a problem, so you need to judge it's use based on the way the person says it and context in which it is used. Saying that using his middle name is degrading is kind of degrading him while trying to protect him in the same sentence.
Nice strawman though... I was trying to get you to admit McCain has not done those things, the things which Rove has done in the past to smear people.
McCain defense 1
McCain and National GOP defense 2
So I think you need to back off the attempts to paint the GOP and McCain as using unfair and unethical tactics as far as using Obama's middle name is concerned. Of course there are going to be wingnuts out there, but I cannot defend them.
I bolded the part where he brings up his middle name, hopefully you can find it. :roll:
I bolded, italicized, and underlined where my statement about striking fear is relavent. There is no other reason to bring up Obama's middle name in a pseudo-political argument" other than to try to tie him to Saddam Hussein, a muslim, etc, which in turn will make people fearful.
Atomic Playboy
Lifer
- Feb 6, 2007
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It's downright shameful to refer to a president(ial hopeful) by their initials. Just ask JFK, FDR, LBJ and GWB. The gall!
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