BFG 6800GT and DVI **EXPOSED**

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: rickshobbies
So, has anyone confirmed if the BFG 6800 Ultra also has this limitation?

Also, if you use a DVI output with the analog adapter, is there any image change if using a direct analog output (analog monitor)?

So far, people using the DVI to analog adapter have reported image degredation. There is a pretty big thread on it in hardocp forums if iirc.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: Bar81
I don't care about what you predict or the past. I buy a card to expect it to have hardware that functions properly at the least. Drivers are another story.

Exactly.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Bar81
I don't care about what you predict or the past. I buy a card to expect it to have hardware that functions properly at the least. Drivers are another story.

Perhaps you need to adjust your expectations to match reality.

:roll:

apoppin OUT

 

[rickshobbies]

So, with the 6800 GT you have a DVI limitation and with the Ultra you have image degradation if you are using an analog monitor and the DVI adapter?

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Bar81
I don't care about what you predict or the past. I buy a card to expect it to have hardware that functions properly at the least. Drivers are another story.

Perhaps you need to adjust your expectations to match reality.

:roll:

apoppin OUT

perhaps you should take your attitude elsewhere.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: rickshobbies
So, with the 6800 GT you have a DVI limitation and with the Ultra you have image degradation if you are using an analog monitor and the DVI adapter?

It seems to be the case that buying any nVidia video card leaves you with most likely a poor DVI signal resulting in poor quality image. You may get lucky but the odds are against you and you are laying out $400-500 for that pleasure.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Bar81

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Bar81
I don't care about what you predict or the past. I buy a card to expect it to have hardware that functions properly at the least. Drivers are another story.

Perhaps you need to adjust your expectations to match reality.

:roll:

apoppin OUT

perhaps you should take your attitude elsewhere.

Perhaps you should go and cry to your momma

 

[Bar81]

Welcome to the ignore list.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Bar81
Welcome to the ignore list.

Welcome to mine

 

[gunblade]

I think it is the manufacturer's intention to seperate the Ultra to the GT. So, they choose to use lower quality component for gt so as to justify the cost of ultra and to save some cost.

I think Ultra should be fine with a better TDMS.

Oh can you read out the part number of the TDMS chip being used? That would help since we can then lookup spec sheet and see if it is the chips' limitation or the implementation's limitation.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: NightFalcon

Originally posted by: Bar81
No fix planned. The only 'fix' is that they will be releasing an upcoming dual DVI GT with support for higher resolutions.

Where did you get this? I would love to get a dual-dvi 6800 GT...

That's what their tech told me. Take it with the requisite grain of salt.

 

[Bar81]

Okay, someone on hardocp is now claiming they can get the GT to work at 1600x1200. I find that hard to believe given what BFG told me (why would they lie and make their product unattractive) but since I don't have a 1600x1200 display I can't check that issue. I'm looking forward to testing by those who have high res displays.

Unfortunately, even if it does work I wouldn't (and won't) trust the card's DVI quality at that resolution given the extremetech article. Even if it runs at 1600x1200, since BFG only made/spec'd it to support up to 1280x1024 the quality at that resolution due to the low bandwidth will not be good.

 

[ponyo]

Ok. Just read over at Hardforum who has Dell 2001FP and BFG 6800 GT and that person is running 1600x1200 fine via DVI. So this gives me hope. It's working out of compliance, but I'm sure my BFG FX5900 isn't compliant either. I'm telling you this is Geforce 2/3 crappy 2D filters all over again.

EDIT: Bar81 you beat me to it. I can test tomorrow also as my card is scheduled to arrive then. But I'm working late so it'll be probably be after 10 pm before I can install the card and test it. Since I also run dual monitors with Dell 2001FP and Sony G520P, I'll be able to compare both monitors at digital and analog running side by side.

 

[Bar81]

Will be looking forward to it. I just wish I had never read that extremetech article, I can never do nvidia or ati partner boards again.

 

[Ackmed]

Bar, you have an email.

 

[Bar81]

crap, checking that email is a pia. pm me next time please. I'll check it and get back to you.

 

[Ackmed]

PM sent.

 

[Bar81]

I'm gonna try to get to the bottom of this tomorrow when the engineers are back on site. This is just too strange. There's no reason that certain people can get certain resolutions to work and others cannot. I'd also like to find out if these are in fact simply rebadged BBN reference boards.

 

[Leon]

I'd also like to find out if these are in fact simply rebadged BBN reference boards

I was wondering about that myself. Starting from 5800 series, Nvidia manufactured the first batches themselves, in order to get the product faster to the market. From the pictures I've seen, all GT boards look 100% similar, with green PCB and identical HSF (save the color). Perhaps it's just a bios problem?

Leon

 

[vaccarjm]

I guess im lucky then since my bfg6800gt lets me run 1600x1200 on my 20 inch viewsonic using DVI.

I would take this posters thread with a grain of salt. I also have a close friend using the same card running the same resolution connected through DVI.

 

[Leon]

^^

Thanks.

 

[vaccarjm]

Screenie of my video settings.

 

[dworley]

I purchased the BFG 6800GT from Outpost and it is working fine at 1600x1200 connected via DVI to my Dell 2000FP monitor. Never had any issues and was suprised when reading this thread! I also have a Sony 17" Widescreen monitor on my second PC, I will try it out to check on the 1280x768 res. and post the results.

1600x1200 worked from the start with the BFG driver CD and with each version of the NVidia forceware updates that I have installed - currently 61.71 from guru3d.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Bar81

Originally posted by: rickshobbies
So, with the 6800 GT you have a DVI limitation and with the Ultra you have image degradation if you are using an analog monitor and the DVI adapter?

It seems to be the case that buying any nVidia video card leaves you with most likely a poor DVI signal resulting in poor quality image. You may get lucky but the odds are against you and you are laying out $400-500 for that pleasure.

hahaha it goes from BFG to all NVIDIA cards...

 

[chsh1ca]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Bar81
I don't care about what you predict or the past. I buy a card to expect it to have hardware that functions properly at the least. Drivers are another story.

Perhaps you need to adjust your expectations to match reality.

THERE ARE NO SCROLLING LINES!
IMO that's a perfectly reasonable expectation. You buy premium hardware, you expect premium performance and service. I don't see what is served by bashing someone for making a choice about their future purchasing decisions based on their previous experience with a given company/manufacturer.