BF2142 PERFORMANCE PREVIEW!!!

[BroadbandGamer]

Originally posted by: josh6079
I also agree that they need to grow up and support widescreens like all of the more mature companies are doing. Put some blood in there too, not just dust. I want more realism, not some giant expansion to BF2 set in "Waterworld gone ice".

From the screenshots I've seen, the shadows still suck as well.

Quake Wars, here we come. Bye bye EA.

Yep!

 

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
I too am sick of no native widescreen support in Battlefield, it's like living in the dark ages. Can force it through a command line but that's beside the point, it still looks crap with the HUD stretching all over.

DICE claims using widescreen gives you an advantage over regular 4:3 or 5:4

 

[Polish3d]

LOL @ DICE, so does having a faster video card or a PC that loads the map fastest. Big fking deal

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Yes, its beta.
But im beginning to find FS review better and better. Theyve used TRAA and AAA along with HQ. Something that most of us would use.

I al ways use those settings for my reviews also, that's the way to play IMO.

 

[josh6079]

Originally posted by: schneiderguy

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
I too am sick of no native widescreen support in Battlefield, it's like living in the dark ages. Can force it through a command line but that's beside the point, it still looks crap with the HUD stretching all over.

DICE claims using widescreen gives you an advantage over regular 4:3 or 5:4

Like Frackal said, so does having a better computer and video card. Transparency AA is an advantage as well, and having hardware that can do AA is another "advantage" that can be dependent from system to system. If DICE/EA want to equal the playing field, they need to stop making computer games and stick to consoles where everyone does have the same thing.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: schneiderguy

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
I too am sick of no native widescreen support in Battlefield, it's like living in the dark ages. Can force it through a command line but that's beside the point, it still looks crap with the HUD stretching all over.

DICE claims using widescreen gives you an advantage over regular 4:3 or 5:4

I have never heard of this, but DiCE can claim that all they like because it's not true and I don't care.

Originally posted by: josh6079
Like Frackal said, so does having a better computer and video card. Transparency AA is an advantage as well, and having hardware that can do AA is another "advantage" that can be dependent from system to system. If DICE/EA want to equal the playing field, they need to stop making computer games and stick to consoles where everyone does have the same thing.

Exactly, not to mention that people who turn the settings down to minimum in Battlefield 2 actually do have a huge advantage. When I fried my X1800XT, I was stuck with an X300SE and an X550 as back-up, and I had to turn pretty much everything down to low for any respectable sort of framerate.

The result was that all building shadows were gone meaning I could see every single player trying to use any sort of stealth, grass and bushes were also gone meaning that I could see any players trying to prone and pick people off. My KDR actually increased with a rubbish graphics card and lower framerate because of this, so if DiCE/EA want the game to be fair then they better get rid of half the settings menu too.

The only reason there is no 16:9 or 16:10 support in Battlefield 2 is pure laziness on behalf of the devs, nothing more.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer
No native widescreen support, no thanks!

When is EA/Dice going to pull their head out of their @$$ and give us gamers native widescreen?

The BF series has been my most played game since it came out, and even before. BF2 has been my favorite game since I first played it. I probably play it 50% of my total gaming time. That being said, not having Widescreen REALLY annoys me. I dont see why they are so stubborn about this issue. You can force a WS res, but since you cant change the FOV, you dont get any more image. So annoying.

Still yet, Ive been playing the 2142 beta, and like it a lot. So of course Ill be buying this. BF2 is the main reason I changed from NV, to ATi. Better frames, and better IQ. If not for this game, I probably wouldnt have made the switch.

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Yes, its beta.
But im beginning to find FS review better and better. Theyve used TRAA and AAA along with HQ. Something that most of us would use.

Ive always liked them pretty well. But like you, I do even more now. Using settings I use, is how I want games tested. Or at least do it both ways. Having settings at stock, is probably not how someone is going to be playing after spending $800+ on video cards.

 

[Hav0k99]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
fwiw - as a BF2142 beta tester, the game is the suxs. All the bugs and issues from BF2 have been carried over then to add insult to injury, they released a second beta build which disconnects almost everyone after only a few minutes of play. Prior to the second beta build, they had a few hundred servers packed. Now, you'll maybe find ten servers populated. Also, after the second beta build, EA/Dice stopped posting on the BF2142 Beta forums.

It's a beta, it clearly states that it's to help find bugs in the game at this stage. I laughed my ass off at people who couldn't get it running and posted I hate you EA/DICE. It's a beta and it looks like it still needs a lot of work. I'm grateful for the oppurtunity to be testing it even thoguh I can't fully complete a single round.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: josh6079


Quake Wars, here we come. Bye bye EA.

While I did like the original BF series, BF2 did nothing for me. Enemy Territory however was one of my favorite games. If they maintain that gameplay with Quake Wars I will be hopelessly addicted.

 

[StevenNevets]

The beta is buggy, but who cares

they already have a private working version

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: StevenNevets

Originally posted by: josh6079
Quake Wars, here we come. Bye bye EA.

Quake Wars is an EA game....... wow people:disgust:

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Quake Wars is produced by Activision.

Originally posted by: Hav0k99

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
fwiw - as a BF2142 beta tester, the game is the suxs. All the bugs and issues from BF2 have been carried over then to add insult to injury, they released a second beta build which disconnects almost everyone after only a few minutes of play. Prior to the second beta build, they had a few hundred servers packed. Now, you'll maybe find ten servers populated. Also, after the second beta build, EA/Dice stopped posting on the BF2142 Beta forums.

It's a beta, it clearly states that it's to help find bugs in the game at this stage. I laughed my ass off at people who couldn't get it running and posted I hate you EA/DICE. It's a beta and it looks like it still needs a lot of work. I'm grateful for the oppurtunity to be testing it even thoguh I can't fully complete a single round.

It's a <b>Tuning Beta</b> that needs more development than tuning with less than a month before release. It still contains all of the bugs that BF2 contains: Red Tag Bug, CTD, Server Crashes, etc.

BF2142 is just a bad reskinned BF2 mod. Point of Existence is a more well done mod and you can get it for free. EA/Dice should hire the POE development folks. If people buy BF2142, EA/Dice will never change their ways.

 

[Ulfhednar]

I agree, POE2 is an amazing mod and you can tell that a hell of a lot more heart went into it than into Euro Force / Armoured Fury and 2142 (which should be an expansion itself!!)

 

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: schneiderguy

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
I too am sick of no native widescreen support in Battlefield, it's like living in the dark ages. Can force it through a command line but that's beside the point, it still looks crap with the HUD stretching all over.

DICE claims using widescreen gives you an advantage over regular 4:3 or 5:4

I have never heard of this, but DiCE can claim that all they like because it's not true and I don't care.

yeah, it doesnt make any sense. CSS and a bunch of other games have native WS modes, and i dont see all the widescreen players owning me. having a larger screen doesnt help you if you suck

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: StevenNevets

Originally posted by: josh6079
Quake Wars, here we come. Bye bye EA.

Quake Wars is an EA game....... wow people:disgust:

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Quake Wars is produced by Activision.

Originally posted by: Hav0k99

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
fwiw - as a BF2142 beta tester, the game is the suxs. All the bugs and issues from BF2 have been carried over then to add insult to injury, they released a second beta build which disconnects almost everyone after only a few minutes of play. Prior to the second beta build, they had a few hundred servers packed. Now, you'll maybe find ten servers populated. Also, after the second beta build, EA/Dice stopped posting on the BF2142 Beta forums.

It's a beta, it clearly states that it's to help find bugs in the game at this stage. I laughed my ass off at people who couldn't get it running and posted I hate you EA/DICE. It's a beta and it looks like it still needs a lot of work. I'm grateful for the oppurtunity to be testing it even thoguh I can't fully complete a single round.

It's a <b>Tuning Beta</b> that needs more development than tuning with less than a month before release. It still contains all of the bugs that BF2 contains: Red Tag Bug, CTD, Server Crashes, etc.

BF2142 is just a bad reskinned BF2 mod. Point of Existence is a more well done mod and you can get it for free. EA/Dice should hire the POE development folks. If people buy BF2142, EA/Dice will never change their ways.[/quote]

They bought out the guys that made DC for 1942, look how far it got them with BF2

The problem with EA is they are a cheapskate corporation that doesnt care about the gamer. They are out to make money, yes, but id wager theyd make a lot more money if they made a quality game rather than slopped together code and a patch once every 8 months.

Their QC validation process basically consists of a beta where they fix major crashes, then a launch.

 

[josh6079]

Quake Wars is an EA game....... wow people:disgust:

Where does it say it is made or sponsored by EA? If EA had anything to do with it, they'd slap thier horrid logo on every picture and open the site with their whisper of "We're mentally challenged"..........I mean....."Challenge Everything".

Did you really think EA/DICE was going to be working that hard to bring you another big expansion of BF2 (BF 2142) and provide you with the most anticipated multiplayer game since BF2's rumors? They can barely fix a game they've already produced, let alone make a new one.

 

[josh6079]

Exactly, not to mention that people who turn the settings down to minimum in Battlefield 2 actually do have a huge advantage. When I fried my X1800XT, I was stuck with an X300SE and an X550 as back-up, and I had to turn pretty much everything down to low for any respectable sort of framerate.

The result was that all building shadows were gone meaning I could see every single player trying to use any sort of stealth, grass and bushes were also gone meaning that I could see any players trying to prone and pick people off. My KDR actually increased with a rubbish graphics card and lower framerate because of this, so if DiCE/EA want the game to be fair then they better get rid of half the settings menu too.

I've experimented with that as well and know exactly what you mean. The game becomes basically a simulator with no chance to emerse the player in realism or detail. The game is tremendously simple and requires no concentration when scanning a landscape with your eyes, aiming at a target in front of foliage, etc.

 

[5150Joker]

I gotta agree with the people that say the BF franchise is garbage as of late. BF2 is full of bugs that EA/DICE haven't addressed or rather haven't been able to due to their incompetence. Every new patch they issue fixes one problem and introduces three new ones and the same thing seems to be happening to that rush job of a "game" they call BF 2142 (even the point of existence 2 mod is more polished than this turd). Now coupled with the fact that EA will be putting real world ads in BF 2142 and their other games just makes you finally realize that their games are simply not worth playing because its not about releasing quality software for DICE/EA anymore, its all about maximizing profits. Just look at what DICE/EA did to BF2, they introduced all these little booster packs and fragmented the community and then screwed vanilla BF2 players over because they didn't have access to some of the new unlocked weapons unless they forked over $10 for the booster pack.

I'd advise everyone that's sick of this to vote with their wallets and avoid BF 2142 or any other future DICE game and go with the better alternatives like Quake Wars or Frontlines: Fuel of War (which is being made by the same team that created Desert Combat).

 

[josh6079]

We need an official boycott thread.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: josh6079
We need an official boycott thread.

That has been done through various forums a long time ago when BF2 was released. These boycotting groups and forums even had boycotting signatures and avatars.

But sadly, nothing had been addressed.

 

[josh6079]

I don't care if EA addresses the issues, the consumers will address them by not buying EA merchandise. Whether EA would want to fix things or actually do things right will be up to them. We'll be doing our part right by not buying--and therefore supporting--things that are half-a$$ed.

 

[Ackmed]

No they wont, more than enough people will still buy 2142 no matter what petitions are signed, boycotts are formed, etc.

I will be buying 2142. I never had problems with the BF2 series crashing, or anything else. The two main problems I have with BF2, is the no WS support, and the crappy server menu. One of those has been fixed to me. Sadly, WS is still not there. You used to be able to edit the video.con for the FOV in BF 1942, but then they stopped letting you do that. Which sucks. Luckily, my LCD is big enough that I can play at 1600x1200 and still have it full sized. Or play with it stretching the huds.

 

[Ulfhednar]

I will buy Battlefield 2142 if too large a proportion of the Battlefield 2 community migrate, as the Battlefield 2 community has shrunk drastically in the last twelve months as it is, but generally I'm of the opinion that Battlefield 2142 is nothing more than an expasion pack and should be sold and applied as one.

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I gotta agree with the people that say the BF franchise is garbage as of late. BF2 is full of bugs that EA/DICE haven't addressed or rather haven't been able to due to their incompetence. Every new patch they issue fixes one problem and introduces three new ones and the same thing seems to be happening to that rush job of a "game" they call BF 2142 (even the point of existence 2 mod is more polished than this turd). Now coupled with the fact that EA will be putting real world ads in BF 2142 and their other games just makes you finally realize that their games are simply not worth playing because its not about releasing quality software for DICE/EA anymore, its all about maximizing profits. Just look at what DICE/EA did to BF2, they introduced all these little booster packs and fragmented the community and then screwed vanilla BF2 players over because they didn't have access to some of the new unlocked weapons unless they forked over $10 for the booster pack.

I'd advise everyone that's sick of this to vote with their wallets and avoid BF 2142 or any other future DICE game and go with the better alternatives like Quake Wars or Frontlines: Fuel of War (which is being made by the same team that created Desert Combat).

Same here. DICE/EA is very incompetant at maintaining the game and addressing major issues such as widescreen. Instead they focus on milking the franchise with stupid booster packs and so on. I hope to see this franchise fall and give them a reality check.

I've uninstalled BF2, have no interest in BF2142 and will wait for QW:ET.

 

[Trevelyan]

I'm just glad there will finally be some competition... Quake Wars: ET and Frontlines both look awesome. I think 2142 will come out before both of them though, which sucks.