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Beware Windows Update. Pre-cursor update for Win7 to get Win10

That is one of the planned release channels yes, but you have to accept the update.

It looks like it will be two parts, 1 this one to prepare to allow the update and then the update itself

For those that want to know the update to hide it or block it in WSUS it is

KB2990214
 
Dahak said:
That is one of the planned release channels yes, but you have to accept the update.

It looks like it will be two parts, 1 this one to prepare to allow the update and then the update itself

For those that want to know the update to hide it or block it in WSUS it is

KB2990214
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Good to know, thanks!
 
I saw this somewhere else and checked ... yes, I downloaded and installed this update. But I have yet to see it do anything.

I find it hard to believe that Microsoft would install a whole new version of the OS through Windows Update without you knowing about it, or even by you casually approving it.
 
AFAIK, this update will only be for if you decide to install/upgrade your current Win7 install yourself. I Highly doubt that there will be any kind of automatic upgrade system to Win10.
 
Chiefcrowe said:
AFAIK, this update will only be for if you decide to install/upgrade your current Win7 install yourself. I Highly doubt that there will be any kind of automatic upgrade system to Win10.
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Even then not all Win7 users will be able to upgrade,ie those with older Athlon 64 bit CPUs on Win7 x64 won't be able to upgrade to Win10 x64.

One reason why I removed Win7/8 x64 awhile back on one of my oldest PCs and went with Zorin (Linux 64bit) OS.
 
Chiefcrowe said:
AFAIK, this update will only be for if you decide to install/upgrade your current Win7 install yourself. I Highly doubt that there will be any kind of automatic upgrade system to Win10.
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I'm not aware of any cases in the past that MS required a certain pre-requisite update, to install an "Upgrade Edition" of a newer OS, except in cases where it came via Windows Store (Win8 -> Win8.1), or the upgrade from Win7 to Win7 SP1 through Windows Update.

Certainly, upgrading from Win98se to XP, or XP to Vista, or Vista to Win7, you just put in the DVD and ran the upgrade installer. Didn't have to install any pre-req. updates into the prior OS.

This is why I'm convinced that MS is going to push Win7 SP1 -> Win10 updates via Windows Update.
 
VirtualLarry said:
This is why I'm convinced that MS is going to push Win7 SP1 -> Win10 updates via Windows Update.
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So? For anyone who wants to update to the new OS, that would be great. For the casual user who may not even know the new OS is a free update, it would advertise the fact and would mean that they don't have to go out and track it down and manually download and install it.

They certainly won't do it without your consent. I doubt very much that it will be listed in Windows Update as just another optional update. That's probably one of the reasons why this pre-cursor is necessary. I expect it will be an application that launches and asks you in no uncertain terms whether you'd like to download and install the new OS.

Sheesh. The knee-jerk reaction to this is unbelievable. Especially among supposedly tech-savvy writers and end users.
 
VirtualLarry said:
This is why I'm convinced that MS is going to push Win7 SP1 -> Win10 updates via Windows Update.
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How would you expect them to upgrade to Win10 then?..Ie free ISO through the post?..Average user would not know how to install Win10 that way.

Makes sense to do it via Windows Updates,probably easiest way of doing it for the average home user on Win7.
 
matricks said:
Well, Microsoft has already confirmed that Windows 10 upgrades can be done via Windows Update from W7 (Microsoft presentation). So, uh, I guess... I'm convinced as well?
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You've failed to fully grasp what he means by "push". It's a sinister plot to shove Windows 10 onto unknowing Windows 7 and 8 users. Imagine running Windows Update, going and getting a glass of water while it installs the latest Tuesday updates, coming back and sitting down just as your computer is booting up into Windows 10!!! The horror!!! There needs to be a lawsuit now, before it's too late.
 
Carson Dyle said:
You've failed to fully grasp what he means by "push". It's a sinister plot to shove Windows 10 onto unknowing Windows 7 and 8 users. Imagine running Windows Update, going and getting a glass of water while it installs the latest Tuesday updates, coming back and sitting down just as your computer is booting up into Windows 10!!! The horror!!! There needs to be a lawsuit now, before it's too late.
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The way I see it you have the option to install it or not via WU,bit like this screenshot below for example,


6239d1412625225-windows-10-technical-preview-upgrade-windows-7-8-a-3-get_the_upgrade.jpg


Really not an issue via WU,so don't know why some Win7 users are making an issue?
 
Mem said:
The way I see it you have the option to install it or not via WU,bit like this screenshot below for example,


6239d1412625225-windows-10-technical-preview-upgrade-windows-7-8-a-3-get_the_upgrade.jpg


Really not an issue via WU,so don't know why some Win7 users are making an issue?
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Wow, so they're trying to get everyone to upgrade from 7 to the 10 "technical preview" before the real OS is even available? That's worse that I thought. The average user probably doesn't even know what this is and will just install it thinking it's "just another update" and now they are beta testers who are working for free (which I suppose is not much different than installing Vista). Sneaky :sneaky:
 
ninaholic37 said:
Wow, so they're trying to get everyone to upgrade from 7 to the 10 "technical preview" before the real OS is even available? That's worse that I thought. The average user probably doesn't even know what this is and will just install it thinking it's "just another update" and now they are beta testers who are working for free (which I suppose is not much different than installing Vista). Sneaky :sneaky:
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Just to clarify,that screenshot is a random one from Google and my guess on what WU will be like for updating to Win10 final.


You could have it worst like via Win8 Store 😉 .

Personally I prefer it via WU then Store on 8.1.

Microsoft will probably make it clear it's a Win10 upgrade but you know some users will always be dumb 🙄 and not realize that even on Win7.

I could be wrong however ,only time will tell .
 
Mem said:
Microsoft will probably make it clear it's a Win10 upgrade but you know some users will always be dumb 🙄 and not realize that even on Win7.
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Yeah, I imagine a lot of people will see that it says "Important" and "Recommended Update" and will trust MS just like they did with all their other updates. For a lot of people the dialogue is just a nuisance when they're trying to do something else and people will just click them "to get it over with" so they can go back to what they're doing as fast as possible.
 
ninaholic37 said:
Yeah, I imagine a lot of people will see that it says "Important" and "Recommended Update" and will trust MS just like they did with all their other updates. For a lot of people the dialogue is just a nuisance when they're trying to do something else and people will just click them "to get it over with" so they can go back to what they're doing as fast as possible.
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I wonder how many users will get upgrade issues?

I remember the old days when service packs(ie XP for example) caused chaos for some users.
 
I have experienced loss of SYS-Prep when UpGrading the Original Win7 platform to Win7 SP1 using the Win7 SP1 UpDate..

Wonder if UpGrading an Original Win7 SP1 installation to Win10 will nullify your option to run SYS-Prep and therefore limit your option to transfer the OS onto New Hardware?
 
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There will certainly be a EULA you have to agree to before it installs. Either you are savvy enough to read what you are checking, or you are going to get a big surprise.

I'll probably upgrade my W8.1 machine to 10 (I don't like 8.1, so 10 can't be worse...) but I'm leaving my W7 machines alone.
 
Carson Dyle said:
You've failed to fully grasp what he means by "push". It's a sinister plot to shove Windows 10 onto unknowing Windows 7 and 8 users. Imagine running Windows Update, going and getting a glass of water while it installs the latest Tuesday updates, coming back and sitting down just as your computer is booting up into Windows 10!!! The horror!!! There needs to be a lawsuit now, before it's too late.
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Made my laugh. Had a similar situation last night. Had some big patches role in on my work laptop. After I rebooted, Lync was gone, and Skype for Business pops up with my contacts.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2481590,00.asp
 
ninaholic37 said:
Wow, so they're trying to get everyone to upgrade from 7 to the 10 "technical preview" before the real OS is even available? That's worse that I thought. The average user probably doesn't even know what this is and will just install it thinking it's "just another update" and now they are beta testers who are working for free (which I suppose is not much different than installing Vista). Sneaky :sneaky:
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You had to install a specific update before being able to install the tech preview, and you have to take explicit action to install the preview. Not so sneaky...
 
Carson: You are exaggerating but you're close to the point I'm trying to make.

Maintaining active SYS-Prep DOS Win Images are important to me and from my experience. Any MS OS UpGrade, whether it's a SP or Newer Win OS UpGrade, does NOT preserve SYS-Prep as any MS OS UpGrade nullifies SYS-Prep and you loose your ability to change HardWare without having to pay MS (MB's in particular).

With a SYS-Prep Image, it doesn't matter whether your MB SATA Controllers are Enabled IDE, AHCI or RAID when transferring your OS to NEW HardWare - The SYS-Prep SetUp will SCAN and assign the appropriate SATA Control Driver and over-write the registry accordingly.

I say, if you value SYS-Prep, don't rely on any MS SP or OS UpGrade. Install the Original MS OS SetUp that you intend to use - Doesn't mean you can't UpDate but don't UpGrade it if you value the SYS-Prep option and you intend change your HardWare and continue Freely with your present MS OS.

Question why we don't have the old Win95, 98 and SE System DOS.EXE System Over-Write option today from a MS Win Installation CD's or Floppies with your option to transfer Win to UpGraded Hardware without having to pay the Windows MS Registration or at least the need having to Hack OOBE which is the least of your issues if you don't have a SYS-Prep BackUp.

Enough of my ranting but I'm sure any experienced Windows user knows exactly what I'm referring to.
 
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