Beware the smiling assassin (India tried to assassinate US citizen on US soil)

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apnews.com

The US has thwarted a plot to kill a Sikh separatist leader, an AP source says

A government official says the U.S. has thwarted a plot to kill Sikh separatist leader Gurpatwant Singh Pannun on American soil.
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www.theguardian.com

Sikh activist accuses India of ‘transnational terrorism’ after US foils plot to kill him

Gurpatwant Singh Pannun makes comments after Washington raised concerns Indian government may known of plot
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theintercept.com

Secret Intelligence Documents Show Global Reach of India’s Death Squads

Leaked Pakistani intelligence backs up Canada’s claim of an Indian assassination program.
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Nope this isn't a Tom Clancy novel.. it's reality with one of our supposed allies against China.

WTF?

And just how do we stop this.. assassins can be anyone.. from a student to a fiance to a diplomat.
 
Jaskalas

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India's use of murder on both Canadian AND US soil is a gross violation. Multiple acts of war, even.
If we wanted to respond to it, we have many options.
Including completely severing diplomatic and economic ties.

I don't know how far we should take it.

India's hostile acts towards us remind me of Putin. And that's never a good thing. If we cannot convince them to realign, we may need to treat them as they are. An enemy.
 
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eelw

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Let’s see if MAGAtards act in the same way as Trudeau haters. Blaming him for ruining Canada/India relations. For supporting a terrorist. And not believing the Five Eyes have any actual intel on this matter.
 
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Jaskalas said:
India's use of murder on both Canadian AND US soil is a gross violation. Multiple acts of war, even.
If we wanted to respond to it, we have many options.
Including completely severing diplomatic and economic ties.

I don't know how far we should take it.

India's hostile acts towards us remind me of Putin. And that's never a good thing. If we cannot convince them to realign, we may need to treat them as they are. An enemy.
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Expel/deport all Indian non-citizens…H1B workers and such…that ought to accomplish nearly nothing.
 
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Leeea

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Indus said:
And just how do we stop this.. assassins can be anyone.. from a student to a fiance to a diplomat.
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Return the favor with a car bomb?
https://www.google.com/search?q=cia+car+bomb


oh, and if anyone said we stopped in the 80s ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...b88682-968a-11e4-8005-1924ede3e54a_story.html


So the real question is, who gets it in India? Head of the Assassination operation? Perhaps it is time to up the game, the building controlling the assassination teams?

if we were willing to detonate 440 lbs of explosive outside of a house of worship as services finished and civilians flooded the streets, killing 80 and wounding 200, hitting an actual target that is actually killing people seems almost ethical.



ps: lets not talk about operation Condor:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
tucking 60,000 dead people under the rug is always awkward.


Extra-judicial murder is an American tradition. We just need to show them how it is done. Heck, we even off our own citizens:
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB416/
former Chilean ambassador Orlando Letelier and his 26-year old American colleague, Ronni Moffitt, assassinated by a car bomb in downtown Washington D.C.
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At this point, something going boom in the trunk is almost a signature.
 
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HomerJS

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He must have snuck in through Mexico since that is the source of murderer immigrants.
 
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BoomerD said:
Expel/deport all Indian non-citizens…H1B workers and such…that ought to accomplish nearly nothing.
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Actually it'll accomplish something.. the number of people who send money back to India isn't small. So it'll not be "nothing"
 
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the cynical view is all the superpowers do similar stuff, and these are just sloppy baby's first assassination attempts.

the distinction to make is that india is going after critics of the government, which most rule of law superpowers with freedom of speech generally dont do. it is one thing to target terrorists intent on killing your citizens, but going after your own citizens or americans/canadians who might get you voted out of office is something else entirely.
 
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gorobei said:
the cynical view is all the superpowers do similar stuff, and these are just sloppy baby's first assassination attempts.

the distinction to make is that india is going after critics of the government, which most rule of law superpowers with freedom of speech generally dont do. it is one thing to target terrorists intent on killing your citizens, but going after your own citizens or americans/canadians who might get you voted out of office is something else entirely.
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And wonder if Americans will defend the actions like Canadian Trudeau haters are doing. They calling the Sikh killed, a terrorist. Yeah one deemed by India.
 
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Indus said:
www.huffpost.com

U.S. Authorities Charge Man From India In Plot To Kill A Sikh Separatist Leader In NYC

U.S. authorities have announced murder-for-hire charges against an Indian man who they say plotted to assassinate a U.S. citizen in New York City.
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52 year old assassin

Not what I would call military age..

I wonder what the age of the assassin in Canada was.
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The problem India is running into is 5 eyes.


They had their free shot in Canada but now they are on the radar. Repeating is going to be much harder for them now. 5 eyes may only take defensive action, but having your assassins sifted right out of the information stream is an expression of power all in itself.
 
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eelw said:
And wonder if Americans will defend the actions like Canadian Trudeau haters are doing. They calling the Sikh killed, a terrorist. Yeah one deemed by India.
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be careful of the attribution of some of the whackjob defenders rhetoric.

like china, india also has a branch of cyber propaganda that is overly sensitive to any criticism of the nation/administration and will plant misinformation in order to distract or add noise to the signal-to-noise ratio. still gets picked up by low information individuals but technically didnt spring up in their imagination organically.


there was a joint exercise with the iaf and usaf maybe a decade back. after the co-op stuff they typically do some versus for dissimilar training. the iaf sent their rookies on the first day since they were the ones who would benefit from the experience, and they got their butts handed to them. the 2nd day they sent the veterans and managed to get some kills on the usaf team.

the indian fanboys and the clickbait "news" site ran with the headline of usaf no longer #1 and the f22 was garbage. when knowledgeable people tried to explain that the usaf only brought f-15s and the dogfight combat was close range 3-9 line merge where the usaf wasnt simulating aamram 100mile fire and forget which would basically kill the iaf fighters before they even got in detection/weapons range, the online india 'defenders' more or less stuck their fingers in their ears. even 10 years later i still see online commenters parading about the iaf 'kills' vs america despite the amount of debunking.
 
BoomerD

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Indus said:
Actually it'll accomplish something.. the number of people who send money back to India isn't small. So it'll not be "nothing"
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That's not a problem that affects me....and, I'd rather see that money stay here.
 
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