Beware the M1 garand & M1 Carbine..they are bad..so sayeth the obama administration

[QuantumPion]

Heh. I'm sure that's why millions of hunting licenses and migratory bird stamps are sold every year, so that Americans can protect themselves from the boogeyman...

Could you narrow down the number of hunting licenses sold? I ask because the number of defensive gun uses is around 2-4 million per year. So if the number of hunting licenses is more than 4 million, you may sort of have a point.






Not really though, your logic is still complete fail.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

I am getting that feeling, but I could have sworn I read somewhere that all new semi-autos need to be made in such a way that they can't be converted to full auto.

New models cannot accept old full-auto parts.

The current production M1 Carbines are ok, as it's not a new model.

When something new like the Kel-Tec RFB, or FN SCAR comes around, they cannot be made so that someone who already has a registered FN FAL sear or HK sear pack can drop it in the new rifle.

Basically if you already own a full auto sear/pack, you can move it to any other gun that will accept it. But manufacturers cannot make a weapon that will allow existing sears or kits to work.

 

[Jhhnn]

There were nearly 15M paid hunting licenses sold in 2005, and over 30M total tags, permits, whatever, issued that same year-

http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-miscellaneous/4462715-1.html

Sometimes people buy new guns just because they can, sometimes it's because they branch out into new kinds of hunting...

 

[piasabird]

Well, what'll it be punk? This gun holds six rounds and in all the excitement I dont know if I fired 5 or 6 rounds! Do you feel lucky or not?

 

[Elias824]

Well, what'll it be punk? This gun holds six rounds and in all the excitement I dont know if I fired 5 or 6 rounds! Do you feel lucky or not?

I do feel lucky actually

 

[K1052]

Yarbles; most smart collectors would probably vote for the latter, hence increasing the rarity and value of their own collections.


Yes, we DO buy guns as an investment. It is their history which adds to their desirability and value.

No real collector would endorse the destruction of historical firearms merely to make their own collections more valuable. I haven't encountered one such individual in 10+ years of collecting. I certainly didn't hear anyone complaining about the Greek Garands that were added to the market, quite the opposite in fact since many people picked up one or more to add to their collections and to have a shooter grade on hand.

Guns are a poor investment. Weapons come into and fall out of favor so the prices shift unpredictably.

Ideally the Korean Garands would end up sold through the CMP which would regulate the flow (just by their method of operation) rather than just dumping them all at once.

 

[nobodyknows]

I do feel lucky actually

Famous last words

 

[Tom]

There is nothing in this article that supports the topic.

Hennigan dors not work for the Obama administration. The only actual information in the article that is attributable to the adminstration is about the transfer of a large number of weapons, not the lethality or suitability of the weapons for criminal purposes.

I would speculate that the concern is more about how such a large number of weapons can safely be put on the market and/or be transported. it seems prudent to be cautious given the concerns about large scale criminal activity taking place in parts of the world.

 

[nick1985]

There is nothing in this article that supports the topic.

Hennigan dors not work for the Obama administration. The only actual information in the article that is attributable to the adminstration is about the transfer of a large number of weapons, not the lethality or suitability of the weapons for criminal purposes.

I would speculate that the concern is more about how such a large number of weapons can safely be put on the market and/or be transported. it seems prudent to be cautious given the concerns about large scale criminal activity taking place in parts of the world.

This post makes no sense at all.


Try again.

 

[Triumph]

I would speculate that the concern is more about how such a large number of weapons can safely be put on the market and/or be transported. it seems prudent to be cautious given the concerns about large scale criminal activity taking place in parts of the world.

The Civilian Marksmanship Program was established by the gub'ment years ago and would do the exact job that you think couldn't be done safely.

 

[nick1985]

The Civilian Marksmanship Program was established by the gub'ment years ago and would do the exact job that you think couldn't be done safely.

Tom is a diehard Democrat. Thinking rationally about firearms is not one of his powers.

 

[Jhhnn]

Tom is a diehard Democrat. Thinking rationally about firearms is not one of his powers.

As if die hard firearms advocates are rational, either.

1. This Admin and any other has the legal right to limit firearms importation. They don't need to offer any rationale for their decisions, nor would anything other than pure free trade in firearms satisfy the usual ravers.

2. Both weapons are available to collectors in this country, apparently in sufficient numbers so as to not create price inflation thru extreme rarity. Yeh, I know, your grandfather bought a mint garand mailorder in 1947 for $10, still in the cosmoline. You want the same deal, right? So what? Times change. Can't afford it? too bad. I want a Ferrari, too...

3. Citing the opinion of a gun control advocate to establish the rationale of the Obama Admin in this matter is extremely unfair. If they wanted to offer one, they'd have done so. He's speculating just as much as the people on the other side of the argument.

4. Never pass up an opportunity to berate teh ebil gun grabbers, rave incoherently, even if that's not what's happening at all. Convince 'em that you really do suffer from paranoid delusions of persecution, which really affects the cause of gun ownership in ways you apparently can't even imagine.

Buncha Maroons...

 

[nick1985]

If anything, your rantings in this thread were incoherent at best. People losing their jobs if these guns were imported? LOL get the fuck outa here. What a joke

Almost as bad as Tom's retarded rant about not having a good way of distributing them. LOL, he obviously doesn't know about the CMP. Not that I expected a gun hater to look into the CMP, just saying.

 

[irishScott]

As if die hard firearms advocates are rational, either.

1. This Admin and any other has the legal right to limit firearms importation. They don't need to offer any rationale for their decisions, nor would anything other than pure free trade in firearms satisfy the usual ravers.

2. Both weapons are available to collectors in this country, apparently in sufficient numbers so as to not create price inflation thru extreme rarity. Yeh, I know, your grandfather bought a mint garand mailorder in 1947 for $10, still in the cosmoline. You want the same deal, right? So what? Times change. Can't afford it? too bad. I want a Ferrari, too...

3. Citing the opinion of a gun control advocate to establish the rationale of the Obama Admin in this matter is extremely unfair. If they wanted to offer one, they'd have done so. He's speculating just as much as the people on the other side of the argument.

4. Never pass up an opportunity to berate teh ebil gun grabbers, rave incoherently, even if that's not what's happening at all. Convince 'em that you really do suffer from paranoid delusions of persecution, which really affects the cause of gun ownership in ways you apparently can't even imagine.

Buncha Maroons...

1. Actually they do. Accountability to the people is in part what our government is based on. They may not have a legal obligation, but rest assured if you don't tell someone why you're doing something they'll just come up with an explanation on their own. And it probably won't be on you like.

2. Irrelevant.

3. What other rationale could there be? From the article:

A State Department spokesman said the administration's decision was based on concerns that the guns could fall into the wrong hands.

4. The only reason guns weren't banned years ago was because of gun rights advocates. And it doesn't affect the "cause of gun ownership" whatever the hell that means. The causes are many and varied, but one thing the vast majority of gun owners can agree on is that they aren't criminals and aren't prone to committing crimes just because they own a gun. Yet I can guarantee you that if I open-carried down main street in my town I'd get more than a few adverse reactions than if I walked un-armed. So yeah, I'd say that qualifies as mild persecution. Good thing it's legal.

 

[ModestGamer]

screw gun laws. everybody gets a gun. Everybody gets the gun they want. Everybody gets a justifiable homicide law to protect them in the event of a robbery.

Yeah watch criminals rob a well armed society. Right !

 

[ModestGamer]

As if die hard firearms advocates are rational, either.

1. This Admin and any other has the legal right to limit firearms importation. They don't need to offer any rationale for their decisions, nor would anything other than pure free trade in firearms satisfy the usual ravers.

2. Both weapons are available to collectors in this country, apparently in sufficient numbers so as to not create price inflation thru extreme rarity. Yeh, I know, your grandfather bought a mint garand mailorder in 1947 for $10, still in the cosmoline. You want the same deal, right? So what? Times change. Can't afford it? too bad. I want a Ferrari, too...

3. Citing the opinion of a gun control advocate to establish the rationale of the Obama Admin in this matter is extremely unfair. If they wanted to offer one, they'd have done so. He's speculating just as much as the people on the other side of the argument.

4. Never pass up an opportunity to berate teh ebil gun grabbers, rave incoherently, even if that's not what's happening at all. Convince 'em that you really do suffer from paranoid delusions of persecution, which really affects the cause of gun ownership in ways you apparently can't even imagine.

Buncha Maroons...

Let me go get you rsome depends. So you can keep your vag dry.

 

[nobodyknows]

It seems the Dem's are slow learners when it comes to us rednecks clinging to our guns.

I think Kerry would have easily defeated Bush if it wasn't for the gun control issues. Remeber when he was trying to pass himself of as a sportsman. LMAO!!

 

[Zebo]

Worse, I live in California. That and buying one is fairly expensive ($600- from the website that was posted earlier).

LOL I have a piston AR I use in 3 gun and it over $4000. Just the optics a ACOG with aimpoint T1 at angle is over $1700. Never mind some of my class 3/NFA stuff... $600 is cheap for a decent reliable firearm.

 

[Zebo]

There were nearly 15M paid hunting licenses sold in 2005, and over 30M total tags, permits, whatever, issued that same year-

http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-miscellaneous/4462715-1.html

Sometimes people buy new guns just because they can, sometimes it's because they branch out into new kinds of hunting...

I've had a lifetime hunting and fishing license since 1976...wonder If Ilifetime holders are counted. I bet they regret that. I think my dad paid $125 for it. Today one year with all tags will cost that. We don't even need tags of any sort. just a $1 hip permit for dove...(federal thing)

 

[Zebo]

If anything, your rantings in this thread were incoherent at best. People losing their jobs if these guns were imported? LOL get the fuck outa here. What a joke

Almost as bad as Tom's retarded rant about not having a good way of distributing them. LOL, he obviously doesn't know about the CMP. Not that I expected a gun hater to look into the CMP, just saying.

The US gun lobby has been keeping foreign guns out for 20 years now. I personally have no prob protecting American jobs. I'm just not sure that's Obama's modivation know what I'm sayin.

 

[Zebo]

it seems the dem's are slow learners when it comes to us rednecks clinging to our guns.

I think kerry would have easily defeated bush if it wasn't for the gun control issues. Remeber when he was trying to pass himself of as a sportsman. Lmao!!

lol

 

[Zebo]

Like I said, I usually don't bother because of the lack of thoughtful discussion.

Both weapons are legal and available in the domestic market. The carbines can be had either as vintage or new manufacture. If you want one, buy one.

Early in my life, I was a firearms enthusiast, even studied gunsmithing. My father was a gunsmith. I understand firearms in general better than most gun owners. I rather like some of the new .380 double action only polymer autoloaders for CCW & personal defense in general. Their light weight, ease of use and inherent safety are good features.

I now return you to your usual ranting, raving and snivelling... over nothing, as usual.

I think I found your pic from back then