Better to wait for next gen chips at this point?

[The Sauce]

Been contemplating an upgrade this year, but it seems maybe not worth it until new chips are released without the latest performance-choking bugs/fixes. Is this the correct approach? I assume this will be corrected by next gen chip release.

 

[jpiniero]

Been contemplating an upgrade this year, but it seems maybe not worth it until new chips are released without the latest performance-choking bugs/fixes. Is this the correct approach? I assume this will be corrected by next gen chip release.

Strictly talking Intel on desktop; that seems to be the case that Intel will put hardware fixes in but you will be waiting awhile. Cascade Lake-X's release is not happening until the very end of the year and Icelake mainstream is more like 2H 19 at this point.

 

[Rifter]

If going intel i would for sure wait at least a few more weeks until the full scope of this bug is known.

 

[turtile]

Been contemplating an upgrade this year, but it seems maybe not worth it until new chips are released without the latest performance-choking bugs/fixes. Is this the correct approach? I assume this will be corrected by next gen chip release.

I highly doubt they are going to hold back a release to fix meltdown. It will cost them too much to redesign and start all over.

 

[jpiniero]

I highly doubt they are going to hold back a release to fix meltdown. It will cost them too much to redesign and start all over.

Kind of feels like the 8 core CFL was a casualty of the flaws.

 

[tential]

Been contemplating an upgrade this year, but it seems maybe not worth it until new chips are released without the latest performance-choking bugs/fixes. Is this the correct approach? I assume this will be corrected by next gen chip release.

I'd hold off til you know the full scope to be COMPLETELY safe as @Rifter suggests, but if your workload is just gaming, then I wouldn't worry and would just go ahead.

 

[The Sauce]

Well my workload is gaming, but my trusty old 2500k @ 4.9 is holding up just fine for now. No problem waiting another year. Was going to upgrade mostly for fun, but would probably be better off waiting for a non-buggy proc...assuming the next gen will not be similarly faulty.

 

[arandomguy]

What's giving me pause is more the combination with DDR4 prices. This is making me want to drag things out to 2019.

At least for my calculations compared to upgrading to Skylake at end of 2016 or Ryzen shortly after launch the total platform cost (CPU/RAM/MOBO) it wasn't really worth waiting from a perf/cost standpoint. Intel is a bit more subjective due to the 2 core addition to CFL and value you assingn to those. For Ryzen the interesting thing is DDR4 price increases have basically offset Ryzen price drops and likely Ryzen 2 performance gains.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Well my workload is gaming, but my trusty old 2500k @ 4.9 is holding up just fine for now. No problem waiting another year. Was going to upgrade mostly for fun, but would probably be better off waiting for a non-buggy proc...assuming the next gen will not be similarly faulty.

Are you running Win10 or Win7? The patches on Win7 are not pretty, even for gamers.

 

[The Sauce]

Win 7. My system spazzed at the attempts to upgrade.

 

[Lucio V]

I saw the benchmarks, don't seem to affect desktop app/games performance much if at all. Double they can come up w/ a silicon fix anytime soon. Even if they do, you'll have to wait til current supply of CPUs run out.

I wouldn't worry about it too much though.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Yea, for general use or gaming, I dont think I would bother waiting. Even with Win 7, the gaming hit was only around 10% or less. Unfortunate, but not the disaster some are portraying it.

 

[mikeymikec]

Been contemplating an upgrade this year, but it seems maybe not worth it until new chips are released without the latest performance-choking bugs/fixes. Is this the correct approach? I assume this will be corrected by next gen chip release.

As always, if you can wait, wait. If you can't, don't.

 

[NostaSeronx]

I recommend waiting for 12nm for AMD and waiting for 14nm# for Intel. Both of which should be widely available by 2H 2018(3Q 2018 at earliest).

Sunnymont should also pop up in the traditional Atom space with a single virtual core by 4Q 2018.

 

[rbk123]

Well my workload is gaming, but my trusty old 2500k @ 4.9 is holding up just fine for now. No problem waiting another year. Was going to upgrade mostly for fun, but would probably be better off waiting for a non-buggy proc...assuming the next gen will not be similarly faulty.

A new current proc isn’t going to be any buggier than your trusty 2500k.

 

[chrisjames61]

Whether the 2500K has the Meltdown or Spectre flaws is irrelevant. He doesn't want to buy a new cpu with those flaws.

 

[NTMBK]

I'd wait, a 4.9GHz SB is still a potent chip.

 

[scannall]

This probably isn't the best time to be in a hurry. Let's see what this spring brings.

 

[wildcard-x]

I'm waiting, my 2500k is doing just fine. My bigger concern is memory prices, I'm just not willing to pay what they are asking. I could but I won't.

 

[JPB]

I'm still trying to wait a while longer as well. And I am still running a AMD FX 8120 with a GTX 760. I guess I am trying to get the most out of my build. So I keep waiting. But in your position, Id wait just a little longer.

 

[DrMrLordX]

The real question is: are you running Win7 or Win10? Win7 users are seeing actual performance declines thanks to the MS patches. It's pretty clear that MS is going to use Meltdown as a way to try to move people onto Win10.

 

[NTMBK]

I'm still trying to wait a while longer as well. And I am still running a AMD FX 8120 with a GTX 760. I guess I am trying to get the most out of my build. So I keep waiting. But in your position, Id wait just a little longer.

Have you considered trying to pick up a cheap 8350 on eBay?

 

[rbk123]

Whether the 2500K has the Meltdown or Spectre flaws is irrelevant. He doesn't want to buy a new cpu with those flaws.

Not sure what thread you're reading but the OP wasn't sure if he should or shouldn't upgrade and was asking for advice. Staying is just as buggy/risky as buying.

 

[Markfw]

Been contemplating an upgrade this year, but it seems maybe not worth it until new chips are released without the latest performance-choking bugs/fixes. Is this the correct approach? I assume this will be corrected by next gen chip release.

Since the only bug/flaw that has real performance impacts are chips with the meltdown problem, you could go Ryzen and only see a minor if not UN-noticeable performance change.

 

[dlerious]

Been contemplating an upgrade this year, but it seems maybe not worth it until new chips are released without the latest performance-choking bugs/fixes. Is this the correct approach? I assume this will be corrected by next gen chip release.

If you can hold off 6 months or so, hopefully we'll start seeing memory and SSD prices dropping with better availability/pricing on GPUs as well.