Better Call Saul

[purbeast0]

Mike didn't have the money though. That would be a terribly wrong assumption on her part. Not having the money is presumably why he's stepping up to "next level work for next level pay." Regardless of her intentions, he's not "fooled," so we have to wait and see what's really going on here.

mike had been helping her out before she did that. he gave her wads of cash from prior things. and he said he would help her out as much as necessary, and she even turned down money from him prior to that story.

we know mike's not fooled. he doesn't care if she is trying to scam him or not as long as he is helping take care of his grand daughter.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

mike had been helping her out before she did that. he gave her wads of cash from prior things. and he said he would help her out as much as necessary, and she even turned down money from him prior to that story.

No, Mike was clearly in a financial bind with her insistence on moving. He was helping her out in her previous situation, but he didn't have the money necessary to help her move somewhere nicer. That was the whole crux of the next level work for next level pay thing. He was forced to do the Tuco job because she was squeezing him for money he didn't have.

 

[Exophase]

Yes, but it wasn't just noise. Stacey didn't just claim to have heard gunshots, she pointed to physical evidence of bullets striking the house. Mike was outside and he knows that didn't happen. So he knows she had to have done the damage herself to prop up her story about it being unsafe.

That mark could have been from anything though. It could just as easily be explained by her paranoia causing her to jump to conclusions.

From what I hear the show's writers said that she's suffering from PTSD so I think this is the intention.

 

[CZroe]

That mark could have been from anything though. It could just as easily be explained by her paranoia causing her to jump to conclusions.

From what I hear the show's writers said that she's suffering from PTSD so I think this is the intention.

This. Even in the Breaking Bad time period it does not appear that there has been any bad blood between them.

 

[waterjug]

My problem with BCS is that the parts set in the corporate world are awful. Just freaking intolerable. I love Jimmy being Jimmy. I love Mike being Mike. When they're each doing their own thing on the seedy side of the law the show shines. The instant Chuck or any of the other legit lawyers show up everything just grinds to a halt. I understand that they have to show Jimmy morphing into Saul by being unable to work within the system and preferring the dark side, they're spending too much time on it. The more time an episode spends in the law office the weaker it is.

exactly how I feel! I get that they need to show how Jimmy just doesn't fit in with the corporate world, but man oh man do those parts drag. I also find the parts with Kim to be getting irritating; we get it, she's in the basement. She's frustrated with her career, she doesn't want jimmy to try and save her. I enjoyed season 1, and I do like season 2, but the last couple episodes, every time Kim (or chuck) shows up nothing interesting is going to happen until the next commercial break.

 

[Mandres]

I don't get the impression that she's trying to scam Mike at all. I think the show suggested that the newspapers were the sound she was hearing, but that he didn't have the heart or want to start a fight by setting her straight.

I didn't pick up on anything at all deceptive or duplicitous in Stacey's actions.

 

[OutHouse]

the law firm only gave Jimmy a 11 year old C240? cheap bastards

 

[CZroe]

the law firm only gave Jimmy a 11 year old C240? cheap bastards

Show was set in 2002.

 

[Miramonti]

That mark could have been from anything though. It could just as easily be explained by her paranoia causing her to jump to conclusions.

From what I hear the show's writers said that she's suffering from PTSD so I think this is the intention.

I don't trust her intentions. Also, the show, like BB, is great at building depth in it's characters, and it would be 'unconventional' of them to not be building a deeper story for Stacey...just sayin.

 

[clamum]

exactly how I feel! I get that they need to show how Jimmy just doesn't fit in with the corporate world, but man oh man do those parts drag. I also find the parts with Kim to be getting irritating; we get it, she's in the basement. She's frustrated with her career, she doesn't want jimmy to try and save her. I enjoyed season 1, and I do like season 2, but the last couple episodes, every time Kim (or chuck) shows up nothing interesting is going to happen until the next commercial break.

I don't mind any scene with Kim in it. :wub: Chuck, on the other hand, I fucking hate. God he blows so hard.

 

[MongGrel]

I don't get the impression that she's trying to scam Mike at all. I think the show suggested that the newspapers were the sound she was hearing, but that he didn't have the heart or want to start a fight by setting her straight.

I didn't pick up on anything at all deceptive or duplicitous in Stacey's actions.

Was always my take on that one, myself.

She just seems protective and a bit paranoid where she has landed at that point in her life.

 

[drquest]

I trust her intentions aren't malicious, but I think she's working Mike to get what she wants. She's a single mother, her husband was killed and she's living in a different city. I feel she doesn't have to manipulate Mike, but again, he's smart, he knows what she's doing, but he's going to take care of his granddaughter.

 

[Drako]

the law firm only gave Jimmy a 11 year old C240? cheap bastards

Show was set in 2002.

LOL, minor detail.

 

[Drako]

And Ice Station Zebra Associates is born.

 

[MongGrel]

I trust her intentions aren't malicious, but I think she's working Mike to get what she wants. She's a single mother, her husband was killed and she's living in a different city. I feel she doesn't have to manipulate Mike, but again, he's smart, he knows what she's doing, but he's going to take care of his granddaughter.

One way or another, it does factor in as motivation for Mike to "up his game", which has all ready been mentioned.

Drives the plot.

 

[CZroe]

And Ice Station Zebra Associates is born.

Pretty sure they mentioned it in an earlier episode (not just Breaking Bad).

 

[OutHouse]

Show was set in 2002.

lol i fail.

 

[Drako]

Pretty sure they mentioned it in an earlier episode (not just Breaking Bad).

Kim and Jimmy were watching Ice Station Zebra in episode 3 (Amarillo).

This is the first mention of Ice Station Zebra Associates in BCS as far as I know.

 

[Miramonti]

If Stacey is playing Mike (which she isn't being honest for some reason), then it might mean she's got some hustle in her. And if she's hustling now, then she was likely hustling before. So it would bring into question that she simply 'found' $6k in her husband's jacket. That could also be why she contacted the police, to see what they knew.

Maybe not of course, but I'm not ready to give her a pass based on what I've seen so far.

 

[ALIVE]

well mike is a person that knows reality

not killing tuco was the way to go because after the cartel investigations he was going to be dead now.
also knew the cartel wanted him to speak so yes intimidation is the way to go but mike knew he had to accept the deal with the cartel or else his loved ones would be dead so he made his counter offer to the cartel
the cartel is practical they want to get what they want in a reasonable price and thats what mike is giving to them 5-10 years prison for 50k which is not a bad deal. when salamandra threatens him to do it for nothing or else he will kill his family mike know that what salamandra has is a threat and him needing to accept. the moment the cartel do something to mike or his family is the moment he will not speak to the police but both know if he does not do it they are dead
so they close a deal for both of them.

as i said previously mike will return the 25k back because the job was not done thats the why he asked for 50k. to give back the 25k and make some money in the process. because he is going to need a lawyer for the gun charges.

so lets put bets
which lawyer will come to the rescue of mike gun possession and use charges
is this the turning point for saul???

remember all the dishing he got for the advertising and in the end the firm made the same exact add and air it in the television
kim is the only thing that keeps him from snapping

 

[Ketchup]

Enjoyed the last episode. I think Mike will definitely go to Jimmy, but TBH I don't think we are up to the turning point yet, at least I hope not. Part of me wants to see his roll in BB, but I am afraid it might take away some of the mystery here (in the whole show really).

And as far as Stacey goes, she has been through a lot (losing her husband and a big move). And we found out that she knew Mike was hiding things about the death of her husband. I think that's all it is, part of her wants to trust Mike, but her guard is still up.

 

[ALIVE]

Enjoyed the last episode. I think Mike will definitely go to Jimmy, but TBH I don't think we are up to the turning point yet, at least I hope not. Part of me wants to see his roll in BB, but I am afraid it might take away some of the mystery here (in the whole show really).

And as far as Stacey goes, she has been through a lot (losing her husband and a big move). And we found out that she knew Mike was hiding things about the death of her husband. I think that's all it is, part of her wants to trust Mike, but her guard is still up.

well even they make the change
there can be a whole season with jimmy being saul and start building his career
and there we can see a connection with breaking bad
remember jessi that said to walter if you need a lawyer you go to saul
so there can be a final episode with how jessi meets or knows about saul

maybe saul helped a friend of him
but that would be an awesome ending for the show
a final episode bridging saul with breaking bad

 

[MixMasterTang]

well even they make the change
there can be a whole season with jimmy being saul and start building his career
and there we can see a connection with breaking bad
remember jessi that said to walter if you need a lawyer you go to saul
so there can be a final episode with how jessi meets or knows about saul

maybe saul helped a friend of him
but that would be an awesome ending for the show
a final episode bridging saul with breaking bad

Ohh I think there will be a lot more overlap than that. It will be interesting to see things from Saul's POV during the whole Breaking Bad era.

 

[SMOGZINN]

remember all the dishing he got for the advertising and in the end the firm made the same exact add and air it in the television
kim is the only thing that keeps him from snapping

It was not the same commercial it was the boring swirly background monotone voice mesothelioma commercial modified to be a sandpiper commercial that Saul derided for not having any 'showmanship'.

 

[ALIVE]

It was not the same commercial it was the boring swirly background monotone voice mesothelioma commercial modified to be a sandpiper commercial that Saul derided for not having any 'showmanship'.

it was the same
if you remember the words of the commercial it was the same
apart from not showing an old woman
and only text and that boring voice to make it more serious lol

it was what jimmy said with the usual ass fucked way the lawyers consider to be the best bla bla bla bla bla

they show jimmy worked
and they implement it
but is jimmy going to get a thank you what a brilliant idea???
nope he is on a short lease

by the way we see the exploitation of the big firms in all its glory than turn people into slaves
kim a brilliant woman could not afford to go to law so the big firm loaned her the money to go, and now they own her ass, she can not afford to loose her job and even if she is humiliated and miss treated she has to shut up and work if thats not slavery what is.
jimmy the same story with the difference of his brother that he had the money to pay for his degree. that gave him the liberty to try to work at his own only to find out that the big law firms have all the good jobs and the free lawyers get very bad jobs if any remember the meeting in the bathroom with another poor lawyer that is a public defender how loosy his life is and that was jimmy life before he moved to the big company.
while in the big company he is allowed to lick the bone, he is only a cash machine for the company and if he cost more than he worths he will be out of it. not to mention that the big case he started will give him lot of money but in how many years down the road?????