Yeah, I thought that was a very weak finale considering how good the show has been so far. Obvious setup to start the transition to Saul next season though.
Drako
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WaTaGuMp
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Finale was underwhelming
I thought so also. Pretty obvious Marco was going to die when they were running the scam and he started coughing.
Jaskalas
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Finale was underwhelming
It showed the break. This isn't an action show, it's a psychological thriller and I'm happy with it.
Drako
Lifer
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I appreciate good story telling. This was good story telling, and this episode completed the evolution of Jimmy to Saul.
The Bingo scene was magnificent, and a big thumbs up to the sound people for the bingo ball machine sounds up close and far away. :biggrin:
The Bingo scene was magnificent, and a big thumbs up to the sound people for the bingo ball machine sounds up close and far away. :biggrin:
Printer Bandit
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- Mar 16, 2005
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After skipping all the pages, this is all i need to begin watching the first season! I loved his character in Breaking Bad. Cant wait! :biggrin:
Ichinisan
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Jaskalas
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Breaking Bad did that, certainly. From the RV in the Pilot, to the... tub and the basement... to the explosive meeting of Tuco. BB Season 1 was great characters and a moving, rolling plot that grabbed hold of and sized you.
BCS doesn't really have those moment that grab. It could use more of them. It may not be the adventure that BB was on... but it could still use some adventure.
I have to say, I was a bit let down by the finally, despite it being pretty good. I liked the overall story, but I felt his "slippage breaking point" just wasn't perfect. I would have preferred another confrontation to send him over. Perhaps, Marco's friend or even Hamlin. Just something that really does him in. I just didn't see him reaching his breaking point when he did. He always had the character of a good guy, trying to be straight and fighting it.
purbeast0
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lol. netflix can't even stream real 720p.
finale was pretty meh overall. probably the weakest episode of the season to me. can't wait for next season.
AznAnarchy99
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Yeah, it just seemed like a "huh, what caused this" kind of change. I was expecting some kind of more external conflict. Him going to the meeting and Chuck going unhinged or something about him not being a real lawyer or that he will always be a scam artist before anything else. Him simply turning down his big break just doesn't seem fitting. Especially, after we find out that Hamlin wasn't all hard up on Jimmy being terrible, he even admired his work ethic. Chuck was the bad guy all along, even though Jimmy continued to scramble day in and out to help his mental ass.
I did love Mike's answer though. He is a man who sticks to his deals, has a real code of honor, even amongst thieves as it were.
Kind of disappointed in the finale too. It doesn't help that expectations were high after the outstanding last couple episodes.
It's hard to understand what Jimmy is thinking here. He's giving up a great opportunity so that maybe he could get more chances to criminally extort money? He regrets not keeping the money the Kettlemans stole, but that would have been stupid. They would have probably turned suspicion on him during the trial that they would have been forced into now that they were unable to provide the money. Jimmy would have had a really hard time actually being able to spend that money. Was it really worth such risk, for just $800,000? He was going to eventually make more than $800,000 from the SandPiper trial anyway.
I get that much of his motivation to fly right and become a lawyer was out of respect and admiration of Chuck and that was dashed away. But despite that he still turned around and wanted to get back to his clients who really liked him, and stop scamming people with Marco. He respected and admired Kim too, whom he was emulating in passing the bar, and now he's making a fool out of her and throwing away her good intentions. He even got Hamlin to bat for him.
Throughout this season, we got a glipse of Jimmy as someone trying to do right and a generally decent person, who did slip up but generally only when he was at his most desperate and dejected. Not when he had the most opportunities.
Worst part of all, he's proving Chuck right about him.
The best I can think of is that he wants to carry Marco's legacy, but that's a pretty miserable ideal. The guy ended up still in that bar stool where Jimmy left him, 10 years later, all alone and nothing fulfilling in his life outside of scamming. Jimmy didn't have to be like that. That may have been Marco's happiest week but I don't see why it would have been Jimmy's.
It's hard to understand what Jimmy is thinking here. He's giving up a great opportunity so that maybe he could get more chances to criminally extort money? He regrets not keeping the money the Kettlemans stole, but that would have been stupid. They would have probably turned suspicion on him during the trial that they would have been forced into now that they were unable to provide the money. Jimmy would have had a really hard time actually being able to spend that money. Was it really worth such risk, for just $800,000? He was going to eventually make more than $800,000 from the SandPiper trial anyway.
I get that much of his motivation to fly right and become a lawyer was out of respect and admiration of Chuck and that was dashed away. But despite that he still turned around and wanted to get back to his clients who really liked him, and stop scamming people with Marco. He respected and admired Kim too, whom he was emulating in passing the bar, and now he's making a fool out of her and throwing away her good intentions. He even got Hamlin to bat for him.
Throughout this season, we got a glipse of Jimmy as someone trying to do right and a generally decent person, who did slip up but generally only when he was at his most desperate and dejected. Not when he had the most opportunities.
Worst part of all, he's proving Chuck right about him.
The best I can think of is that he wants to carry Marco's legacy, but that's a pretty miserable ideal. The guy ended up still in that bar stool where Jimmy left him, 10 years later, all alone and nothing fulfilling in his life outside of scamming. Jimmy didn't have to be like that. That may have been Marco's happiest week but I don't see why it would have been Jimmy's.
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GagHalfrunt
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Chalk up another vote for underwhelming. With the big reveal about Chuck sabotaging Jimmy last week I expected something a lot more explosive in this episode.
BeeBoop
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As long as 4k Netflix looks better than 1080p Netflix, I'm satisfied. The reality of 4k is that Netflix and Amazon are the only places offering the resolution. I don't believe any cable provider offers 4k just yet. If I want true 4k or 1080p quality, I would get the Blu-Ray and I do buy Blu-Rays for the movies that I love. Quality wise, the difference between Netflix and a Blu-ray is very subtle. I've compared as much with the movies that I have.
Is there any actual 4k content? And claiming Amazon and Netflix are "offering" it is rather dubious. You know for a fact it isn't the 4k you want.
The only explanation I can come up with is that Jimmy's moral compass really was Chuck. He was that Slipping Jimmy, but suppressed that just for Chuck. Once he realized that he was only doing what Chuck wanted, even after finding out Chuck didn't really want him as a peer, he just said "fuck it".
He could have easily disappeared with the money. Nobody knew he had it, and is reasonable to believe the Kettleman's would have claimed innocence through the trial; especially without the money.
And, the regrets weren't so much about the quick money vs the long haul with this new firm, it was about him compromising himself and working to near death just to care for someone holding him back. All we saw from Saul was someone willing to work. Why his brother refused to see that, even after a year of taking care of his ungrateful ass, is beyond me. Even Hamlin acknowledged he wasn't the one who had it out against Jimmy, but was willing to play the villain because Chuck meant so much to the firm.
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This is what bothered me. He gave up the opportunity of a well paid, possibly partner track position with a high profile law firm, where he would have gotten to work on his Sandpiper case, for . . . what?
It didn't quite add up for me.
Is it the writers pointing out the inner scumbag within us all, a la Walter White? After all, White could have walked away at several points with all the money he'd ever need, but chose not to.
Is this Jimmy, so hurt by his brother's demeaning rejection that he conflates that with all legitimate, "straight" success, and seeks solace and "ego redemption" by choosing the "I did it my way" option of a scam-artist career that was, after all, a prior "success" of his own creation . . . thus emotionally giving the massive, metaphorical middle finger to Chuck and all he represents?
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