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"Betray US" amendment passes

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Funny how early on Patareus was going to be the hero for the left, shining light on Bush's lies but when his report didn't toe the moonbat line they started in August trying to brandish him a loser, incompetent, and stooge.

Anyone not toeing the line is subject to such attacks, the moveon.org group is a group formed of hatred and acts out on it. They really do represent some of the worst this nation has to offer as nothing is sacred to them other than themselves.

They aren't here to help the Democrat party, they want to control it. When they exert enough influence you can be assured that Democrats will become a minority again until they remove this hate group from their world.
 
Lets also ask, had this resolution passed 100 to 0, would it do anything to solve the mess in Iraq? Do you thing the insurgencies in Iraq will even notice or care?
What vote will come next, outlawing ants at picnics? Or maybe we can order Ossama to drink Hemlock by voting 100 to 0 in the Senate. Or the ever popular repeal the law of gravity and tell the tides not to come in.
 
That vote is as big a waste of time as a vote to condem Ann Coulter for saying the 9/11 widows were glad their husbands died.

That witches statement was far more hurtful then what MoveOn said about the general.

The Senate has more important things to do.
 
Originally posted by: HomerJS
That vote is as big a waste of time as a vote to condem Ann Coulter for saying the 9/11 widows were glad their husbands died.

That witches statement was far more hurtful then what MoveOn said about the general.

The Senate has more important things to do.
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Yeah but the Fringe on the Right love it as it enables them to use it to generalize all those who aren't in agreement with them as this thread demonstrates.
 
Originally posted by: GenHoth
Seriously, don't our representatives have something better to do?
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Probably. Maybe the Dems can now refocus on more meaningful subjects that are near and dear to them, like banning violent video games?
 
Holy good FVCK. OH MY MOTHER @@*#ING LIFE, your leaders just held a session to put an amendment in against personal attacks against Petrus? MOTHER F@##!@#@$#@#. Is there NOTHING better to do with their time? You should be disgusted with them and disgusted with yourselves if you are of the slant that this was at all worthwhile.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: GenHoth
Seriously, don't our representatives have something better to do?
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Probably. Maybe the Dems can now refocus on more meaningful subjects that are near and dear to them, like banning violent video games?
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And their Republican Brethren can concentrate on taking more of our Rights away. Yeah I know that's bullshit but so is your statement.

 
I don't care for the ad by any means. However, even less do I condone congress' taking time to do this kind of politicking in lieu of any useful measures like, say, passing the 2007 budget. I can count on two hands the number of non-trivial legislation that has been passed this year. And by 'non-trivial' I mean only things that aren't renaming fire stations or streets - not a very strict standard.
 
Originally posted by: GenHoth
Seriously, don't our representatives have something better to do?
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Seriously, don't some posters here have better things to do than bawl like crybabies when some criticism gets slung back at them with a dubious play on words slogan to spice it up.?

 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Let's ask why people are trying to divert this to be about Iraq when it's about Moveon.org's sleazy ad and their attack on Petraeus?
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Big freaking deal. John Kerry served in a war too and he was attacked much worse than Petraeus. My question is why is congress wasting time on people holding different views from u right-wingers, why should everyone think Petraeus is honorable and full of integrity just because he is a general? The whole testimony by Petraeus is a joke when the surge was his and Bush's idea, he executed it and he testified for the progress. The last time when that happened in a business (auditor reviewing the company also involved in the execution of company operations), this thing called Enron happened.
 
The more the Rs talk about how bad it is, the more they say the words Betray Us in conjunction with Petraeus name.
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Haha, so true as with this kind of thing always. I don't read the NY Times. If a big deal hadn't been made of it, I'd never have heard of it.

This is still on the news because people are idiots and eating this up, ignoring the bigger issue. These are the kinds of people who pay $1k for pinstriping on their new car because "wow, pinstripes!" and they forget that they're being bent over to the tune of a grand for them. Betrayus is the pinstripe (small issue), Iraq is the 1k (bigger issue).
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
http://www.senate.gov/legislat...0&session=1&vote=00344

To express the sense of the Senate that General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force-Iraq, deserves the full support of the Senate and strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all members of the United States Armed Forces.
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All 25 Senators voting Nay to this amendment were Democrats including Clinton, Dodd, Reid, Durbin, and Kerry. It's sad commentary that they refuse to condemn the ad. I could understand the far-lefties voting Nay but here are Democratic party leaders still pandering to the fringe. Ridiculous.
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You think congress should spend their time condemning free speech? What do you think this is? The UN?
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
http://www.senate.gov/legislat...0&session=1&vote=00344

To express the sense of the Senate that General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force-Iraq, deserves the full support of the Senate and strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all members of the United States Armed Forces.
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All 25 Senators voting Nay to this amendment were Democrats including Clinton, Dodd, Reid, Durbin, and Kerry. It's sad commentary that they refuse to condemn the ad. I could understand the far-lefties voting Nay but here are Democratic party leaders still pandering to the fringe. Ridiculous.
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I'm not surprised at all. There is no Democratic Party any more. It is called MoveOn.Org.

The party is so beholden to the extremists with the cash they are handcuffed.

A sad, sad day indeed. Bush was right. Democrats are more concerned with the consequences of voting against MoveOn.org wishes than the troops in the field. Disgusting. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

EDIT: I should add that the disgusting attacks against General David Petraeus have only improved his favorability rating.
 
Because our politicians and military leaders are above reproach and should be immune to criticism, loyal opposition, and free-speech in general.

For a *REPUBLICAN* it's truly amazing that you would agree with this. It is our right *AND* duty to speak up against what we do not agree with. NOBODY is above this right and duty.

You may not agree with it, that is your right, but there is no way our Congressional leaders should be wasting their time condemning their employer's rightful speech.
 
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Because our politicians and military leaders are above reproach and should be immune to criticism, loyal opposition, and free-speech in general.

For a *REPUBLICAN* it's truly amazing that you would agree with this. It is our right *AND* duty to speak up against what we do not agree with. NOBODY is above this right and duty.

You may not agree with it, that is your right, but there is no way our Congressional leaders should be wasting their time condemning their employer's rightful speech.
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There's a big fucking difference between calling someone a traitor and disagreeing with their opinion. The vitriolic, personal attacks against Petraeus - impugning his character and questioning his credibility - are way beyond the line of "not agreeing with".

Apparently, a few people on this board need to learn that as well.
 
Originally posted by: rchiu
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Let's ask why people are trying to divert this to be about Iraq when it's about Moveon.org's sleazy ad and their attack on Petraeus?
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Big freaking deal. John Kerry served in a war too and he was attacked much worse than Petraeus. My question is why is congress wasting time on people holding different views from u right-wingers, why should everyone think Petraeus is honorable and full of integrity just because he is a general? The whole testimony by Petraeus is a joke when the surge was his and Bush's idea, he executed it and he testified for the progress. The last time when that happened in a business (auditor reviewing the company also involved in the execution of company operations), this thing called Enron happened.
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Surely it's only the right-wingers who viewed the ad as disgusting, eh? Nobody from the center or the left saw anything wrong with it? :roll:

Apparently the left thinks it cute to use a looney fringe organization to say by proxy what 25 Senators were too chickensh*t to say for themselves. Now they reply with mock indignation over the Senate R's turning this entire affair around and shoving it down their throats. Don't like cheap politics? Fine. The unhinged left shouldn't play that game in the first place and it won't come back to haunt them. They set themselves up for this and deserve every lashing they get from it. It was beyond the pale and the refusal of certain Democrats, as well as certain people in here, to condemn that ad speaks volumes about the group who opposes the war but claims "We support the troops." When push comes to shove though they get exposed for the hypocrites and liars they are.
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: GenHoth
Seriously, don't our representatives have something better to do?
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Seriously, don't some posters here have better things to do than bawl like crybabies when some criticism gets slung back at them with a dubious play on words slogan to spice it up.?
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was this directed at people getting upset over the ad or at me?

and to be honest? Sometimes I believe that they DON'T have anything better to do! 😉
 
There's a big fucking difference between calling someone a traitor and disagreeing with their opinion. The vitriolic, personal attacks against Petraeus - impugning his character and questioning his credibility - are way beyond the line of "not agreeing with".
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No different than the attacks against Bush or against all of the presidential nominees. Betrayus is less important than them, so why feign the offense? How puerile. Read the link by red dawn for englightenment (a few posts up).
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: rchiu
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Let's ask why people are trying to divert this to be about Iraq when it's about Moveon.org's sleazy ad and their attack on Petraeus?
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Big freaking deal. John Kerry served in a war too and he was attacked much worse than Petraeus. My question is why is congress wasting time on people holding different views from u right-wingers, why should everyone think Petraeus is honorable and full of integrity just because he is a general? The whole testimony by Petraeus is a joke when the surge was his and Bush's idea, he executed it and he testified for the progress. The last time when that happened in a business (auditor reviewing the company also involved in the execution of company operations), this thing called Enron happened.
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Surely it's only the right-wingers who viewed the ad as disgusting, eh? Nobody from the center or the left saw anything wrong with it? :roll:

Apparently the left thinks it cute to use a looney fringe organization to say by proxy what 25 Senators were too chickensh*t to say for themselves. Now they reply with mock indignation over the Senate R's turning this entire affair around and shoving it down their throats. Don't like cheap politics? Fine. The unhinged left shouldn't play that game in the first place and it won't come back to haunt them. They set themselves up for this and deserve every lashing they get from it. It was beyond the pale and the refusal of certain Democrats, as well as certain people in here, to condemn that ad speaks volumes about the group who opposes the war but claims "We support the troops." When push comes to shove though they get exposed for the hypocrites and liars they are.
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I'm pretty lefty, and I didn't like the ad. But as much as you might like that to be the topic of this debate, it's not. We're not talking about how we personally view the ad, this is about whether the US Senate should be voting to condemn it. Those are two very different things. There are a lot of personal views I hold that I don't think are appropriate topics for the US senate to debate and vote on. I happen to think Bill O'Reilly is an annoying jackass, that doesn't mean I would support a congressional resolution saying so. I didn't like the ad, but I don't think the US Senate should be in the business of passing judgement on the free speech of a private group.
 
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