Best way to configure my new system?

gmjimmy

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I could use a little expertise here as I'm an old guy who's upgrading from a Commodore 64! Well not really but I haven't put a system together for a few years. I'm building a ASUS P7P55D-E Pro with a i7 860, Win 7 and 4gb of ram (for now) and I'm in the process of choosing my HD's. I'm thinking of a Raid system 1 or 0 or maybe 5 on SSD's and a 1TB storage drive. I've been reading that it's best to have the OS on the main drive/s and apps on another and a big storage drive separately? Could anyone help me with a little advice on the best method to set up my computer for speed and reliability. Not a big gamer but I do photo and video editing.
Thanks
Jim
 

gmjimmy

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You're probably right but what I want is more than I need. The main purpose is general use like internet and such but I do some photo and video editing as well. I'm building more computer than I need right now but I plan to do more with it later when I get some time. Maybe some gaming or Photo Shop. Fast and reliable is what I would like. Besides it will give me something to do all winter.
Thanks
Jim
 
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chusteczka

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It seems you are looking for a project to learn with and you would like assistance with:
  1. selecting parts,
  2. assembling these parts,
  3. ensuring the assembled parts operate with stability,
  4. install the operating system,
  5. configure the system.

Your request possesses a very wide scope that will make it difficult for anyone to provide a focused reply.

Select Parts
Read through as many of the articles on this website as you can handle. Then visit the forums and read through the thread titles in the categories of your interest. Ask questions where needed. There is a category for each system component. Case/power supply, motherboard, processor, memory, video card, operating system, and more.

NewEgg.com is great for searching for parts. NewEgg customers provide unreliable reviews but you can get a good idea.

There are many decisions to be made. Cheap or expensive case? 80Plus power supply? Motherboard features (DDR3, video on board?), Processor price range (number of cores, overclocking?). Memory speed rating, manufacturer, high bandwidth or low latency? Video card needs and budget. Windows, Linux, BSD, or Apple for an operating system?

Combine your thoughts and hardware selection and post a thread in General Hardware with a request for others to review your selection.

Then you can ask for hard drive recommendations. Some will recommend Western Digital, others Seagate, and still more for Samsung or Hitachi. Everyone has their own personal preferences and my preferences will not necessarily meet your needs.

When you put the system together, will you accept the default BIOS options or attempt to customize your BIOS settings for your needs? Do your needs include overclocking the processor? Maybe a little? Do not forget to select AHCI as the driver for the hard drives. Ah, but you mentioned the possibility of SSD. I have not kept up with the SSD market but there are articles detailing how the original SSD's provide unreliable bandwidth for random disk accesses. It will definitely help to be familiar with the current market situation for SSD drives. Anand has focused on this technology with some very insightful (IMO) research and articles.

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/

Parts Assembly
When I assemble my computer system, I like to take time to explore the limits of my hardware, to see how fast I can push the processor and memory without significant voltage increases. My current system, I tested for a month or two before I performed the final installation. This allowed me to compare the differences between different processor speeds with their related voltages and decide which setting was good for my needs. I then compared different memory settings for:
  1. high bandwidth with high voltage
  2. low latency with low voltage.

For my system, I found that low latency settings with low voltage performed only slightly less than the high bandwidth with much higher voltage. However, this required good memory with low timings. The standard value memory can typically only be used at the default settings and value memory often impairs system overclock settings. Personally, I found both G.Skill and Mushkin memory to work very well for me, with low timings of course.

I provided a method to place the User Profile data on a second partition in this thread. The applications can stay with the system files. It is the user data that is important to separate from the operating system files and place on a separate partition.
 
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gmjimmy

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chusteczka

Thanks for the in depth reply and advice. I really appreciate the help. Compared to most on this site I'm a rookie but I have built a few computers for friends and family in the past (5 years ago). Here is what I have so far.

Case: nothing special Coolermaster CM 690

MB: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro The non E board was probably good enough but the future SATA and USB 3 features of the E board for an extra 20 bucks was worth it I think.

PSU: Corsair TX750W

CPU: Intel i7 860 Was going for the i5 750 but got the i7 860 for 50 bucks more.

Memory: Wanted Corsair or G Skill but sales guy talked me into 4gb of OCZ3P1333LV4GK. Sales guy is a OCZ fan and time will tell if I messed up here.

HD. I got a deal on a 1TB (all I need) WD Black HD for storage for now but am hesitating on drive/s for my OS and programs until I learn what the best way to set this up is and whether the SSD's are the way to go or not.

Video card: Lots to choose from and no decision yet.

Optical drives: I like Pioneer but haven't chosen a burner yet. Might go with a BluRAy burner but haven't had time for any research yet.

Misc: I do need a good card reader for my photos.

My plan is to build this and get used to Win7 64 bit. and put my programs on it and see if they'll run. Later this computer will be the main computer in the house. Wife uses it for banking and basically everything else. When I'm happy with the performance and reliability I'll hand down my existing computer to my daughter.

I need to know what the best way to set up the OS and programs is before I buy any HD drives. SSD's or regular drives? Presently my existing system is set up with two WD drives in raid 0 for OS and programs and a WD 500gb for storage. I transfer most of my data to a DVD for safe keeping. I've read that it may be better to use smaller drives (maybe SSD's) for just the OS and keep programs on a separate larger drive. This is the problem I'm working on now. Until I learn what the best way to do this is and whether SSD's are a good idea, I won't be buying any drives.

Once again, I appreciate the help.
Jim
 

Chiefcrowe

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If you are considering SSD, i would use SSD for the OS drive and then keep a huge hard drive or 2 for storage, programs, etc.
RAID would be nice too if you had the budget.

ideally, i'd have 4 or 5 large RAID drives for storage and a RAID 1 SSD drive for the main OS.
You'd get a good amount of speed from that!
 

gmjimmy

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Chiefcrowe
Thanks for the help.
I've got to learn more about SSD's but I do want it to be fast! Just wondering if the cost of going with SSD is worth it?
Jim
 
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Chiefcrowe

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I'd read up on some benchmarks for SSD to see for yourself. if you have the money i think it would be a good way to go.