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Best type of CDR to get.

ed21x

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Yeah, this question has always bothered me. I've always been aware that those light green ones aren't very reliable, while the dark blue/gold and silver ones are good (less reflective). But then again, the black ones are out, and there's so many different brands of each =\ Need good durability and reliability, + can be read by a cdrom at high speeds.
Using a plexwriter 12x10x32a.

And again I need something more specific than the brand because I'm planning on ordering it online. 🙂

~ed
 
Fujifilm all the way. They have been consistently using Taiyo Yuden(the best out there).

TDK, Memorex, Imation and other well known brand change their suppliers(usually CMC or Ritek) all the time.

Verbatim DataLife Plus are real good as well. Note that ValuLife is just about the same as other generic stuff.
 
I have been buying whichever is cheapest at best buy for the past couple of years and I have never had problems with any of my burned cds to date. Actually for the first time I had two bad cds, one was in a verbatim 50 pk and the other was in a pny 110 pk.
 
I think I read in Maximum PC a while back that the color of the media is irrelevant. I apologize for not being able to quote the source, but I remember the article saying that the media color was for aesthetics only and had no bearing at all on it's performance.

Like NeonFlak, I too just buy whatever is on sale and have never had any problems burning with my TDK. I have yet to make a coaster.
 


<< I have been buying whichever is cheapest or best buy for the past couple of years and I have never had problems with any of my burned cds to date. >>




Ditto!

As a precaution, when I make audio CDs, I try and use a brand name (usually Memorex) just for peace of mind, but have had excellent results with all blank media I have purchased.

Hope this helps.
 


<< I think I read in Maximum PC a while back that the color of the media is irrelevant. I apologize for not being able to quote the source, but I remember the article saying that the media color was for aesthetics only and had no bearing at all on it's performance.
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It is relevant also in a way. You are right that there is no difference in performance but there is a difference in lifespan. The highest reported lifespan of a CDR is 99 years. It's life does depend on what dye the CDR used.
 
I like fugifilm, IBM, TDK, Kodak, and have had good luck with Cursor too.
I'm not a fan of Memorex cause I've had problems with especially the Walmart special 74min ones.
 
I use memorex because for me they have been good. had a 50pk of the black ones and they worked great just picked up a 100pk at staples for 30$ not bad. Ive used Fuji they were nice. The IBM ones i used didnt write at there rated speed which was a bummer. generally i go with memorex imation or fuji.
 
TheEvil1: you have black Memorex cds?? I haven't seen them before. What is black, the top or the bottom cause all my Memorex have either been a gold top(crap) or a white top(not as bad)?
 
You'll want to get a Plextor Plexwriter. This is the best CD-RW on the market. Yes, a little more money but you don't wanna compromise on you CD-RWable, do yuz?
 
Brands that people usually like are: Imation, TDK, Verbatim, Kodak, Mitsui, and a few others..
I personally use Kodak for the data I care about 🙂 (Music and such) and Cursur colorful cheap spindle CD's for other things.
 
I too recall the article in MaximumPC about the color making almost no noticable difference in the recording ability or quality of the media. What does matter is the thickness of the disks, thinner disks tend to warp when burned which will cause the beam to deflect and create errors in reading, sometimes even during writing. Though I have never personally come across a truly thin disk for CD-R media, I once bought some inexpensive software and discovered the CD to be extremely thin... I don't think it was much over a millimeter thick!!! Thought my drive was going to shred it before I had a chance to use it!!!
 
for myself i have used

Imations
Memorex

and a few generic brands


my preference has always been Imations



Jen
 
Mavrick007 the bottom of them are black. they look like playstation disks. the top is half gold half black
 
Another great brand for me has been Smart Buy
aslo on ebay there is a sellar Diamondcdr his cdrs are silver/silver professional grade media and i have purchased probably close to 200 of his discs
and have had NOT ONE bad one
they look cool too they look exactly the same top and bottom.
 


<< I have been buying whichever is cheapest >>


Same here, if I had to buy them myself. I've been using mostly generic OfficeDepot stuff. Someone gave me a spindle of old 8x OfficeDepot generic CDRs and I've been burning on them at 16x w/o a prob. I've used some TDK I was given. I've used some old 6x Sony's, burned at 16x w/o probs.
 
The only CDRs I don't like are these Silver Top/Light Blue silver bottom CDRs - cheapie generic. The top flakes off after a few years - and guess what? Thats the reflective part that actually contains my data - I'm using them up for burn, use, test and toss jobs now.

 
This is a fun topic. Here is my spill:
The best CDR media made is the one's that say "Made in Japan", these will be Taiyo Yuden's. I know that HP, Sony, TDK, and Fuji have all at some point been TY's. The key is looking for the made in Japan label. I prefer the TDK TY's if you can find them as most will be cheap made in Taiwan. Don't get me wrong, Taiwan made media is better than media that says Hong Kong or India. I recently bought 3 spindles of TDK TY's.
This is the CDR Identifier info for the TDK's that are made in Japan:
TDK Media from FRY's (Made in Japan)
ATIP: 97m 24s 01f
Disc Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Company Ltd.
Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 73f / LBA: 359848)

This is the cheap TDK media that is made in Taiwan:
TDK Media from Target
ATIP: 97m 15s 12f
Disc Manufacturer: Ritek Co.
Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

TDK Media from CompUSA
ATIP: 97m 15s 17f
Disc Manufacturer: Ritek Co.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 73f / LBA: 359848)

For the sake of brevity I will call this out now, the maker of the disc is going to determine the quality of the disc as far as longevity. Now comes the point of needing cheap media that will last a reasonable amount of time. The dye is what will determine quality in most cases. Here is the info for an Imation :
Imation 16x
ATIP: 97m 26s 66f
Disc Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corp.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

Imation CD-R (No rating Listed)
ATIP: 97m 26s 66f
Disc Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corp.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

Imation 16x Colored
ATIP: 97m 26s 66f
Disc Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corp.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

Just be careful, there are some cheap media made from Ritek.
I stick to either Imation or TDK blanks that are made in Taiwan for all of my cheap media.
I stick to either a TDK or Fuji for my archival purposes.

Good luck. It is late so I am having trouble finishing this thought. 🙂 Goodluck.
 


<< Now comes the point of needing cheap media that will last a reasonable amount of time. The dye is what will determine quality in most cases. >>



The dye gives disc characteristics, however I believe manufacturing standard is the key quality. I doubt Mitsui and TY allow their stampers to wear to the ground where some manufactures do so to reduce the cost as much as possible. Worn stampers results in poor groove geometry which could result in coasters or read failures.




<<
Imation 16x
ATIP: 97m 26s 66f
Disc Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corp.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)
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Have you ever had problem with Imations? People seems to like them. I wonder how much ATIP info means. Here's an ATIP printout of my cheap ass 50pk/$8 Hotan/CMC discs

ATIP: 97m 26s 66f
Disc Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corp.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

Those discs are real flaky and top layer is damaged rather easily. A few of them burned to a disc that always lock up my reader and a few became a coaster. Coincidentally, they have same ATIP as your Imations :Q
 


<< As a precaution, when I make audio CDs, I try and use a brand name (usually Memorex) just for peace of mind, but have had excellent results with all blank media I have purchased. >>



LMAO! Sorry I couldn't help myself. IMO Memorex is FAR below generic quality. In my vast experience with Memorex products I have never come across one that worked acceptably or lasted over a month. I would trust CD-R's I made myself before I would trust a Memorex! (and I have no idea how to make a CD-R) 😉
 


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<< As a precaution, when I make audio CDs, I try and use a brand name (usually Memorex) just for peace of mind, but have had excellent results with all blank media I have purchased. >>



LMAO! Sorry I couldn't help myself. IMO Memorex is FAR below generic quality. In my vast experience with Memorex products I have never come across one that worked acceptably or lasted over a month. I would trust CD-R's I made myself before I would trust a Memorex! (and I have no idea how to make a CD-R) 😉
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As a precaution in order to avoid wasting my money, when I make pointless or useless CD's I try and use Memorex or cheapest generic.

Memorex=your cheapest crappiest discs printed with Memorex logo that deceives people into believing they're high quality.

Buy Memorex and get generic quality for the price of brand names :|
 


<< I wonder how much ATIP info means. Here's an ATIP printout of my... >>



How do you get ATIP info anyway? I wan't to see the info of my generic stuff.
 
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