Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
I went all out and bought an iPod video and a flash based playforsure compatible player (for working). Subscription based unlimited rentals intriques me, what's the best service with the most full albums? Anyone have personal experience with these services? What's the sound quality like and can you get more obscure indie rock through any of them or do they only have the new Greenday and Creed albums?
Thanks!
I personally prefer allofmp3.com
CHEAP legal mp3s all the way up to lossless codecs you chose on purchase and they charge you accordingly..
most complete CDs can be had for under 2 bucks and they are yours forever to keep and play on ANY DEVICE OR PC! not like napster who locks their crap to 1 device or PC...
Wow.
*shakes head*
Not only are you dating an escort you think AllofMP3 is legal. Wow.
its legal untill someone proves it isnt, ill keep giveing them my money until someone is sued for dling from them
Ignorance of the law doesn't protect you. It is a simple fact that you aren't in Russia, so Russian Copyright laws are not applicable to you.
And if they are so Illegal as you say they are... they could never operate in the US charging a fee for the service..
And if you think LE and the Music industry doesnt know about them you are dumb.
It is just as "legal" as napster or Yahoo is.. you pay for the music 1 way or the other.
it is not a warez site or a file sharing service..
it is a paid for service.
They don't operate in the US. They operate in Russia and other "blackmarket" areas. The reason why no one is getting used is because of logistics. Absence of enforcement does not mean it is legal.
But they do operate the service in the US.. just as overseas adult sites must obey US/International laws that govern them so must services like allofmp3 follow laws..
Do you really think a service as mainstream and high profile as them are under the radar for law enforncement? do you really think they are so immune?
http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3faq.htm
http://www.thetechguide.com/reviews/allofmp3/
http://music.tinfoil.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1133
there is a nice fat loophole in russian law that allows the distribution of the matieral as long as they pay thier royalties which they have till now...
There is MUCH debate and several ongoing investigations but so far the service is LEGAL until they can close the loophole in the law..
the same law was upheld that says other counties can purchase these good as long as the object or media itself is not illegal in your country..
now the law is thatb MP3s are not an illegal item to HAVE or EXPORT as long as it is purchased and the money is being paid to the copyright holders... which it IS!
now the debate on the law right now is that allofmp3 may not have ALL of the licenses for all fo the music they provide.. that is another issue but so far it has held up in court and investigations..
they are still paying the copyright service that russia MUST pay to do this.. the US disputes the legality becasue there are more than one copyright holder which are not being paid becasue of the laws difference..
As of today dealing with allofmp3 in the US as well as many other mainstream countries is LEGAL.. now should that change thats a whole other ballgame.. but it will also be very public should the law change..
You've yet to be logical. Your point is that "no one has been arrested or sued" so it has to be legal. Again, the reasoning fails because it is one of logistics and not legality. It is NOT legal to import copyrighted works that you didn't pay for. Just because you pay "something" doesn't mean it lets you off the hook. You can't go into Wal-Mart and give them 8 dollars for a CD and then run out. If it costs 14.99+tax they are still going to have you arrested. You are not bound by Russian law -- you are bound by US Law. International Law is not applicable here. I think you need to see what Alito had to say about International Law, and then what the Supreme Court said recently. They do not follow it. It is not a part of our legal system.
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
I went all out and bought an iPod video and a flash based playforsure compatible player (for working). Subscription based unlimited rentals intriques me, what's the best service with the most full albums? Anyone have personal experience with these services? What's the sound quality like and can you get more obscure indie rock through any of them or do they only have the new Greenday and Creed albums?
Thanks!
I personally prefer allofmp3.com
CHEAP legal mp3s all the way up to lossless codecs you chose on purchase and they charge you accordingly..
most complete CDs can be had for under 2 bucks and they are yours forever to keep and play on ANY DEVICE OR PC! not like napster who locks their crap to 1 device or PC...
Wow.
*shakes head*
Not only are you dating an escort you think AllofMP3 is legal. Wow.
its legal untill someone proves it isnt, ill keep giveing them my money until someone is sued for dling from them
Ignorance of the law doesn't protect you. It is a simple fact that you aren't in Russia, so Russian Copyright laws are not applicable to you.
And if they are so Illegal as you say they are... they could never operate in the US charging a fee for the service..
And if you think LE and the Music industry doesnt know about them you are dumb.
It is just as "legal" as napster or Yahoo is.. you pay for the music 1 way or the other.
it is not a warez site or a file sharing service..
it is a paid for service.
They don't operate in the US. They operate in Russia and other "blackmarket" areas. The reason why no one is getting used is because of logistics. Absence of enforcement does not mean it is legal.
But they do operate the service in the US.. just as overseas adult sites must obey US/International laws that govern them so must services like allofmp3 follow laws..
Do you really think a service as mainstream and high profile as them are under the radar for law enforncement? do you really think they are so immune?
http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3faq.htm
http://www.thetechguide.com/reviews/allofmp3/
http://music.tinfoil.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1133
there is a nice fat loophole in russian law that allows the distribution of the matieral as long as they pay thier royalties which they have till now...
There is MUCH debate and several ongoing investigations but so far the service is LEGAL until they can close the loophole in the law..
the same law was upheld that says other counties can purchase these good as long as the object or media itself is not illegal in your country..
now the law is thatb MP3s are not an illegal item to HAVE or EXPORT as long as it is purchased and the money is being paid to the copyright holders... which it IS!
now the debate on the law right now is that allofmp3 may not have ALL of the licenses for all fo the music they provide.. that is another issue but so far it has held up in court and investigations..
they are still paying the copyright service that russia MUST pay to do this.. the US disputes the legality becasue there are more than one copyright holder which are not being paid becasue of the laws difference..
As of today dealing with allofmp3 in the US as well as many other mainstream countries is LEGAL.. now should that change thats a whole other ballgame.. but it will also be very public should the law change..
You've yet to be logical. Your point is that "no one has been arrested or sued" so it has to be legal. Again, the reasoning fails because it is one of logistics and not legality. It is NOT legal to import copyrighted works that you didn't pay for. Just because you pay "something" doesn't mean it lets you off the hook. You can't go into Wal-Mart and give them 8 dollars for a CD and then run out. If it costs 14.99+tax they are still going to have you arrested. You are not bound by Russian law -- you are bound by US Law. International Law is not applicable here. I think you need to see what Alito had to say about International Law, and then what the Supreme Court said recently. They do not follow it. It is not a part of our legal system.
Did you even read the links?
they have been scrutinized by LE and right now it IS LEGAL and the american RIAA and thier lawyers cant do a thing about it casue of international law.. becasue Russia and Allofmp3.com is 100% obeying the laws for thier country.. which just so happens to also cover the importing of goods purchased via the internet or in person from that country..
they DO pay the required Royalties for the music WITHIN RUSSIAN LAW.. which is all they have to do..
and being that they are obeying the law and there is a clause in it that allows people from other countries to buy the goods over the phone or over the internet or in person...
the law stands and they cannot be touched as long as they are in complience. which they are.
Therefore at this time as LONG as they PAY thier royalties it is legal to import via the internet to the USA and since they are selling the albums at russian face value which is roughly 3 bucks per album they are fine.
do some searching on the case..
i found those 3 articles in less than 5 mins..
Originally posted by: Mill
Believe what you want to believe. The fact remains that the Courts have not ruled it to be legal. The main reason for this is because logistically it is very hard for the RIAA to gain access to AllofMP3 user information. Regardless, this does NOT mean it is legal. It means it has yet to be adjudicated. If you honestly think US Copyright law and the DMCA are not applicable because of an obscure subsection -- then that is your risk to take.
However, you calling it legal is a complete and total bullsh!t lie. It has not been proved either way. Hence that's why I never deemed it illegal. I simply said it is stupid to think it IS legal.
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Mill
Believe what you want to believe. The fact remains that the Courts have not ruled it to be legal. The main reason for this is because logistically it is very hard for the RIAA to gain access to AllofMP3 user information. Regardless, this does NOT mean it is legal. It means it has yet to be adjudicated. If you honestly think US Copyright law and the DMCA are not applicable because of an obscure subsection -- then that is your risk to take.
However, you calling it legal is a complete and total bullsh!t lie. It has not been proved either way. Hence that's why I never deemed it illegal. I simply said it is stupid to think it IS legal.
so in other words your a stubborn hothead that refuses to READ the info I posted and no matter if Im right or wrong your too stubborn to actually do your homework?
that about sum it up?
good..