Best SSD so far?

perdomot

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Seems like there is all sorts of problems with SSDs so I'm wondering if there are any that are considered solid & reliable performers. Currently running a first gen Agility SSD but the newer SSD's have so much higher performance I want to upgrade. Any recommendations? This would be a boot drive so around 60GB is what I'm looking for. Thanks.
 

Emulex

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you know i think maybe you are young. i got the 335i because its a great family sedan. 4 doors. 12 second 1/4 mile. (dinan stage 2 chipped). Then i realized that maybe only 10% of the time do i actually use peak performance since i'll go to jail .

so after a specific speed increase, the gains of going faster diminish and are irrelevant. you can measure this yourself using perfmon and watching the disk queue.

my advice: use a good chipset (intel) and avoid the number cookers (sandforce). i sell both of them and sandforce is bad mojo in the reliability department. I get zero returns on Intel and tons of returns on sandforce. why? timing issues. Sad but true. I get ES and regular samples all the time. I use them personally at my own risk and i have to say sandforce is something i'd not recommend to any friend nor business partner.

Now the # of chips used (256 or 512gb versus that 60gb you have) is going to have more flow since it has more chips. that is a solid way to get more performance without sacrificing reliablility. stick with what works for you now. just go larger.
 

Zap

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Seems like there is all sorts of problems with SSDs so I'm wondering if there are any that are considered solid & reliable performers.

Intel.

Currently running a first gen Agility SSD but the newer SSD's have so much higher performance I want to upgrade. Any recommendations?

Stick with what you have.

Most people notice a big performance difference between a HDD and SSD.

Few people will notice any difference between a decent SSD and a "faster" SSD.
 

perdomot

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Intel does seem to have a good rep and their IOPS seem to be better than others like OCZ but their prices are so high. Are IOPS that important to the average user?
 

Doggiedog

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you know i think maybe you are young. i got the 335i because its a great family sedan. 4 doors. 12 second 1/4 mile. (dinan stage 2 chipped). Then i realized that maybe only 10% of the time do i actually use peak performance since i'll go to jail .

so after a specific speed increase, the gains of going faster diminish and are irrelevant. you can measure this yourself using perfmon and watching the disk queue.

my advice: use a good chipset (intel) and avoid the number cookers (sandforce). i sell both of them and sandforce is bad mojo in the reliability department. I get zero returns on Intel and tons of returns on sandforce. why? timing issues. Sad but true. I get ES and regular samples all the time. I use them personally at my own risk and i have to say sandforce is something i'd not recommend to any friend nor business partner.

Now the # of chips used (256 or 512gb versus that 60gb you have) is going to have more flow since it has more chips. that is a solid way to get more performance without sacrificing reliablility. stick with what works for you now. just go larger.

So how does the Dinan compare with the JB3? I might chip my car once it's out of warranty.
 

drizek

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no mention of crucial C300?

I just ordered one...someone please tell me something good!

I just installed one. So far, it works fine. Benches 240/71 over SATA II.

I really don't think there is much of a difference in real world use between SSDs.
 

Zap

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What about the SAMSUNG 470 Series?

Samsung drives are solid but uninteresting. I don't know if the 470 is the older or newer series, but the older series had kind of crappy writes and overall lackluster performance. The newer ones are solid. Samsung drives are popular with OEMs/system builders.

I really don't think there is much of a difference in real world use between SSDs.

Shhhh, that's a secret! If word of that got out, we wouldn't have any more traffic in this forum. :awe:
 

readymix

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What about the SAMSUNG 470 Series? Anyone care to comment on these? I would buy an Intel but 160GB is just not enough for me. 256GB is the Min. for me and the SS 470's are getting really good reviews and the price is just $450.00 today on the Egg.

i have a samsung 470 256 GB installed in my laptop for about 2 month now. it replaced an intel 160 g2 which went into my desktop. no complaints about either one, both are doing a great job for me and i can not tell much of any difference between them. there is a review of the samsung 256 and how it stacks up with about 10 other ssd's online. i don't recall who ran it but i remember it moved around the top 3 slots in most all test with the exception of the 4 kb test where it was close to if not dead last. it is samsungs controller and laetest nand, 30nm i think maybe sub 30 though i'm not positive. never benched it myself but my perception is that it's writing large files quite a bit quicker than the intel, a need that arises rarely for me lately. i paid about the same price for both but got 50% more with the samsung, i guess i like the samsung more right now.
 

ronbo613

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Recently I got an OCZ Vertex 2 120G SSD, it is fast I guess, that is when it doesn't have any one of a number of problems. OCZ "support" is totally lame; your best bet is their "support" forum; when you have a problem, you post it, OCZ employees tell you it's "not their drive, it's your system" and a few other users(non OCZ employees) will voice their opinions on what you should do. Support tickets are mainly ignored until you go away.
Support procedure is this: install, erase and install again until you claim fraud, then RMA the drive to OCZ and start all over. OCZ rebates are fantasy, better off buying Lotto tickets with your "rebate" money.
Don't believe the hype, buy from a reputable company like Intel that does not use their customers as crash test dummies. They have all kind of hardware conflicts with a wide range of computers and sketchy beta firmware. Keep in mind that all those great OCZ reviews are with free SSDs that are carefully tested before they ship them to the reviewers.
 

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My first SSD was a 16GB MTron, which kicked ass for about six months. My second SSD was a 32GB Intel SLC which is still going strong, I have Intel MLC (G2) SSDs in an HTPC, workstation, netbook and laptop, which show all signs of being great. I have a friend who has a pair of shiny new Corsairs in RAID-0 in his workstation, and while their garbage collection isn't bad, it's not as good as TRIM, and they'll go to ZFS use when Intel's G3 drives come out.

You don't get fired for buying IBM/er...Intel.

Daimon

Edit: What are you expecting from your SSD? My whole experience up to around 2007 was "more RAM=faster system". Then I found "average Ram+SSD=even faster system". Now Its "max RAM+SSD" = "nirvana".
 
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perdomot

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Recently I got an OCZ Vertex 2 120G SSD, it is fast I guess, that is when it doesn't have any one of a number of problems. OCZ "support" is totally lame; your best bet is their "support" forum; when you have a problem, you post it, OCZ employees tell you it's "not their drive, it's your system" and a few other users(non OCZ employees) will voice their opinions on what you should do. Support tickets are mainly ignored until you go away.
Support procedure is this: install, erase and install again until you claim fraud, then RMA the drive to OCZ and start all over. OCZ rebates are fantasy, better off buying Lotto tickets with your "rebate" money.
Don't believe the hype, buy from a reputable company like Intel that does not use their customers as crash test dummies. They have all kind of hardware conflicts with a wide range of computers and sketchy beta firmware. Keep in mind that all those great OCZ reviews are with free SSDs that are carefully tested before they ship them to the reviewers.

I've been hearing a lot of this kind of stuff lately when OCZ went to the Sandforce controllers which is why I haven't gotten one yet despite the great prices at times. Crucial has good performance but you need the new gen of sata to really make it shine from what I've seen in reviews and my mobo still has gen 2 sata. Patriot and G-Skill seem to be getting some good reviews but haven't heard from people running those ssds.
 

Emulex

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So how does the Dinan compare with the JB3? I might chip my car once it's out of warranty.

No idea - i lease the car and drive it like i stole it ;) - they are cool with dinan - uncool with JB3 considering that is a $26K motor you are playing with.

but seriously. i do look back and it's only very rarely that i get to use the differential in power from the underrated stock to chipped). Kinda a waste of money if you think about it.