a nice card if you can find it, on the vortex 2 chip is the xitel storm built in fiber optic out, and if you find the gamers pack version of it that comes with force feedback head phones!! , but i only found mine in some places rma stuff area, so better to search for the turtle beach mentioned above, (yeah the turtle beach 5.1 if i needed a sound card now i'd get it)or if all else fails go for any of the live cards, their software that comes packeged with their stuff stinks, (not the games the stuff they make) but the hardware is ok