I read a bunch of reviews on that Philips card and it scored higher than the creative on all sights. I have the x-gamer for now.
The philips supports 2,4. or 6 speaker setup
The philips supports 2,4. or 6 speaker setup
Yes, but does the Phillips have support from all games, the way that Creative does?
Also, do you mean that it doesn't support 5 speakers. Two front, two back, and one subwoofer?
Also, do you mean that it doesn't support 5 speakers. Two front, two back, and one subwoofer?
<< what worried me was that it is not possible to turn off their special emulated surround sound when listening to music >>
You sure can my friend. If you have it set in 4 speaker mode 2 channel streams are upmixed. If you have it set in 5.1 speaker mdoe, 2 and 4 channel streams are upmixed. If you want standard flat stereo flip open the control panel and set it to 2 speaker mode and it shuts off QMSS.
Another note on QMSS, if you are in 4 speaker mode playing a 4 channel source (most games) QMSS does nothing. So you don't have to worry about it mucking up your sound, it only does anything if you are in a "higher" speaker mode than the number of channels in the sound source.
I would take the AE myself over any other soundcard out there right now. Full EAX support for games, A3D 1.0 (no 2.0, only creative is allowed to use that, but even they don't bother)...excellent sound quality, all kinds of cool options around QMSS (for example DVDs that only have a stereo sound channel - yes there are some - and I don't have a Dolby ProLogic capable setup, so QMSS would work quite a bit like ProLogic in this case...very handy) and if you don't want it, set 2 speaker for stereo sources, and 4 speaker for quadraphonic sources and QMSS does nothing
It's a very versatile soundcard with execellent sound quality.(The above information is gathered from reading several reviews, constantly pestering people at the www.3dss.com message boards, as well as hearing my friend's, and in my view it's a cut above the SBLive! for sound quality, thought he and I have different speakers so it's not a 100% fair comparsion).
Noriaki --
Very helpful.
I'd just like to clarify. When you say 4 speaker mode, does that work as well with 5 speakers, the fifth being the subwoofer? (With perhaps the subwoofer channel being bypass extracted from the two front channels? How does it work with 5 channel speaker systems?
Very helpful.
I'd just like to clarify. When you say 4 speaker mode, does that work as well with 5 speakers, the fifth being the subwoofer? (With perhaps the subwoofer channel being bypass extracted from the two front channels? How does it work with 5 channel speaker systems?
<<I'd listen to Leo V, he knows what he's talking about.>>
Implying that I dont have a clue what Im talking about?
Implying that I dont have a clue what Im talking about?
Becareful when you say 5 channel.
5 speaker (4 sats + 1 sub) systems are usually NOT 5 channel. There is a difference.
The Klipsch Promedias, Creative FPS2000, BA4800, Altec Lansing ACS54 and 56, etc...are all 4 channel systems. They all have 4 inputs, and then internally they handle which sounds go to the sats and to the sub.
If you happen to have a set that has true 4.1 inputs, I'm not quite sure how that would work...if you set it in 5.1 mode then just not connect the center channel...but then you'd lose stuff going to the center, not sure how significant that would be...My friend's got ProMedia's so I can't ask him to try it out....(no separate sub input)
5 speaker (4 sats + 1 sub) systems are usually NOT 5 channel. There is a difference.
The Klipsch Promedias, Creative FPS2000, BA4800, Altec Lansing ACS54 and 56, etc...are all 4 channel systems. They all have 4 inputs, and then internally they handle which sounds go to the sats and to the sub.
If you happen to have a set that has true 4.1 inputs, I'm not quite sure how that would work...if you set it in 5.1 mode then just not connect the center channel...but then you'd lose stuff going to the center, not sure how significant that would be...My friend's got ProMedia's so I can't ask him to try it out....(no separate sub input)
Yeah, I'm talking about 5 speakers, not five channels.
What is your view of the Creative FPS 2000 system? (I can get it for $125 delivered from egghead.com.)
I have a high end audio system. I want something good for my computer for mp3's, but it doesn't have to have a whole lot of juice. It's a small office and it wouldn't be like you know, the party music.
But I do care about good quality sound.
What is your view of the Creative FPS 2000 system? (I can get it for $125 delivered from egghead.com.)
I have a high end audio system. I want something good for my computer for mp3's, but it doesn't have to have a whole lot of juice. It's a small office and it wouldn't be like you know, the party music.
But I do care about good quality sound.
no LXI, I think that if you're looking for details in things like quality, he certainly knows his stuff.
doesn't mean you don't know your stuff, I mean, I'm perfectly happy with some equipment that people would find outrageously crappy, but that doesn't give me the right to say that my setup is better then others.
I know that there are people out there that can tell the difference between 60 and 80 FPS, but I can't. why? I have always run on below par systems, therefor, I'm used to having a problem in games.
maybe it makes me more.. versatile? heh, I don't really care.
it's not like I want to have crappy products, it's just cause I can't afford anything better.
doesn't mean you don't know your stuff, I mean, I'm perfectly happy with some equipment that people would find outrageously crappy, but that doesn't give me the right to say that my setup is better then others.
I know that there are people out there that can tell the difference between 60 and 80 FPS, but I can't. why? I have always run on below par systems, therefor, I'm used to having a problem in games.
maybe it makes me more.. versatile? heh, I don't really care.
it's not like I want to have crappy products, it's just cause I can't afford anything better.
kami, under Windows you can switch between sound devices using the Multimedia control panel item. If you're getting an AP2496, you might want to read the link I've supplied in my original post (tweaks, etc).
It's noteworthy that the Audiophile2496 uses a pro-quality D/A converter--the same one used in $800 high-end Midiman soundcards. This is what really makes it shine, compared to cheap D/A converters in consumer soundcards (as well as in "digital" speakers). I'll mention that the AP2496 uses R/L gold-plated RCA jacks for outputs and inputs.
The capability for up to 96KHz 24/32-bit playback is a potential investment, because people are working on real-time CD->DVDA resolution upsampling plug-ins. This type of processing has been proven to make CD recordings sound nearly as good as SACD/DVDA!
It's noteworthy that the Audiophile2496 uses a pro-quality D/A converter--the same one used in $800 high-end Midiman soundcards. This is what really makes it shine, compared to cheap D/A converters in consumer soundcards (as well as in "digital" speakers). I'll mention that the AP2496 uses R/L gold-plated RCA jacks for outputs and inputs.
The capability for up to 96KHz 24/32-bit playback is a potential investment, because people are working on real-time CD->DVDA resolution upsampling plug-ins. This type of processing has been proven to make CD recordings sound nearly as good as SACD/DVDA!
"I recently got the MAD plugin for winamp and was impressed with the sound. However I can only run it at 16bit...is mp3s at 24bit with the Midiman card really that much better?"
Indeed yes, I always have MAD set to 32-bit precision now. (Again, see that review I've linked). I still prefer full-quality WAV files, but for the 3 or so gigabytes of MP3's on my disk, it works really well!
Indeed yes, I always have MAD set to 32-bit precision now. (Again, see that review I've linked). I still prefer full-quality WAV files, but for the 3 or so gigabytes of MP3's on my disk, it works really well!
I have 2 speakers and a subwoofer and need a cheap but good card. Any recommendations? I do not plan on getting 4.1 or 5.1 speakers any time soon and I don't want any conflicts with my KT7A that's coming this week.
dougjnn (with regards to the FPS2000):
It depends on your ears...and how sensitive you are....I'm not a huge "audiophile" per se, and I find speakers like the FPS2000 and Altec Lansing ACS56 to be quite good. I prefer the Boston Accoustics BA4800 but they cost alot more...I like the FPS2000 just fine. But alot of people think that they are unmitigated crap...and well...they are right. But so are the people that think they sound fine.
The FPS2000 certainly won't sound as good as the BA4800s, or many other good speaker sets, but for the price, I think they are a good buy (I prefer the Altec ACS56, but they are fairly comparable sets, and each has it's strengths and weaknesses). The only way to really tell is to try them.
It depends on your ears...and how sensitive you are....I'm not a huge "audiophile" per se, and I find speakers like the FPS2000 and Altec Lansing ACS56 to be quite good. I prefer the Boston Accoustics BA4800 but they cost alot more...I like the FPS2000 just fine. But alot of people think that they are unmitigated crap...and well...they are right. But so are the people that think they sound fine.
The FPS2000 certainly won't sound as good as the BA4800s, or many other good speaker sets, but for the price, I think they are a good buy (I prefer the Altec ACS56, but they are fairly comparable sets, and each has it's strengths and weaknesses). The only way to really tell is to try them.
Could you try to describe what the basic differences are between the comparable (in price I assume) Atlec ACS56 and the Cambridge FPS 2000 are?
Realistically, I just don't think I'm gonna hunt them down for a side by side comparison. Don't even know who could would do that for me.
Realistically, I just don't think I'm gonna hunt them down for a side by side comparison. Don't even know who could would do that for me.
The ACS56 has a more powerful sub. The FPS2000 seem to have slightly better accuracy in the high range. That's the biggest difference I've noticed. I care about MidRange, LowRange, HighRange (in that order). They seem to be about even in MidRange, the ACS56 get the thumbs up in Low and the FPS2000 get the thumbs up in High. So I pick the ACS56.
This is my personal opinion, not meant to be passed off as fact or a formal review.
This is my personal opinion, not meant to be passed off as fact or a formal review.
Just get the Platiumn 5.1 if you have your computer near your stereo setup i have mine net to it i run optical cable from comp to stereo and have a nice ass sounding system.leo just probably had some stupid sound font on. also if you have the crative 12 dvd dxr3 this is a gtreat choice then you have da dolby digital dvd [player and you can watch on you monitor and have a awsome setup great picture and awsome sound
I'm with zucchinni. The turtle beach santa cruz is really nice. INfact i'd buy almost anything over a creative card
Is there any diff between the Altec ACS56X and the ACS56?
I'm seeing a real good price on the former, refurbished. Hmmm. (Me likes da bass also. As long as the highs don't sound real muddy. A bit mellow is good, to me.)
I'm seeing a real good price on the former, refurbished. Hmmm. (Me likes da bass also. As long as the highs don't sound real muddy. A bit mellow is good, to me.)
yup, turtle beach has a record of quality. I had a tb montego back when vortex 1 was the new thing, that one was one clean sounding card. They used 18bit dacs when creative was only using 16. after that I upgraded to a mx300 for the quad even though it was much noisier/hissy.. ah well
Be careful with the Phillips card. It may have nice features, but the Win2K suport is VERY lacking. Right after christmas my buddy bought one, could not get the digital stuff working properly, Phillips web site had NO information. The Tech support said, "oh, thats the new one, we don;t have the info on that yet."
He now has a Live! Paltnium 5.1. Works perfect in EVERYTHING an DOES sound good.
He now has a Live! Paltnium 5.1. Works perfect in EVERYTHING an DOES sound good.
Don't know...never heard of the ACS56X....
And no the highs are really bad, just not as good as the FPS2000.
I was going to buy the ACS56 at one point, I quite like them.
And no the highs are really bad, just not as good as the FPS2000.
I was going to buy the ACS56 at one point, I quite like them.
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