Originally posted by: John
IMHO you should forget 754 and go 939. The 939 cpu is generally a little cheaper and the board allows you to run FX & X2, Dual Channel, etc.
MSI Neo2-F http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130514
3000+ Venice http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537
Does upgrading down the road ring a bell? Why save a couple of bucks when you can do it right the first time.Originally posted by: Vee
I know you mean well, but:
The OP has picked components for a nice little budget machine. Why would he be interested in running FX or X2? ...Before X2 is a budget solution that anyway doesn't come on s939 anymore?
That doesn't have anything to do with 754/939 or the current discussion. If he does, great, if not that's his perogative.What if he doesn't intend to overclock?
What if he does?What if he never intends to replace the CPU in this AGP R9600, DDR, PATA etc machine?
No he doesn't. Single modules work fine. With a Venice core 4 modules also work fine @ 200MHz 2T.Which seems sensible strategy, since any such CPU upgrade will only represent a moderate performance increase at a considerable cost. (What his system will primarily need in terms of upgrade is better graphics and 1GB ram. 1GB could also be a problematic upgrade on s939, since he would have to start with two 250MB sticks.)
He's probably on a budget in case you couldn't tell from the thread title.If he intends to accept the additional cost of yet another processor in this system, why not just buy a faster from the start?
I was comparing a 3000+ Venice to a 3000+ Newcastle. Venice offers .09u, SSE3, and lower core voltage.The s754 3000+ is a 2GHz CPU. A 2GHz s939 (3200+) costs at least $190. So s939 cpus are not cheaper. They are more expensive.
He asked for a mobo under $80 and I was able to provide him with one. I also wanted to make him aware of the benefits of socket 939 since it does appear that he's an enthusiasist.If you're on a low budget and don't intend to try dramatic OC, s754 is a good deal. You have to pay more to get the same performance on s939. s939 MBs are also more expensive. Ultimately, you can reach higher performance on s939 thanks to the higher bandwidth, but that's another scenario.