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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Homerboy
than the most talented rock musicians on earth.
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I like Rush...but common.... that's a tad of an overstatement.
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No, it's not. Seriously.

Peart -- arguably the world's greatest drummer
Lee -- one of the world's best bassists, no question of it
Lifeson -- a far far better guitarist than he gets credit for, arguably one of the best
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now i'm convinced!
 
Originally posted by: foghorn67
I respect them as musicians. But geez, how can you stand a voice that sounds like that. And the lyrics, how corny can you get?
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Tell ya what, why don't you give us an example of these "corny" lyrics?
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
now i'm convinced!
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Exactly... there's no subjective-ism in there at all.
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I'm sure I have no idea what I'm talking about. I only own some 10,000 albums, most of which is rock. I'm sure it was pure subjectivism that caused me to go out and buy Rush's complete discography, and not my deep appreciation for good rock musicianship. I'm also sure that if you were to ask the rock lovers here what the greatest concert they've ever seen was, the answer surely wouldn't be Rush by an overwhelming margin, or that the reason given for that wouldn't be their outstanding musicianship in concert.

😉
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Homerboy
now i'm convinced!
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Exactly... there's no subjective-ism in there at all.
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I'm sure I have no idea what I'm talking about. I only own some 10,000 albums, most of which is rock. I'm sure it was pure subjectivism that caused me to go out and buy Rush's complete discography, and not my deep appreciation for good rock musicianship. I'm also sure that if you were to ask the rock lovers here what the greatest concert they've ever seen was, the answer surely wouldn't be Rush by an overwhelming margin, or that the reason given for that wouldn't be their outstanding musicianship in concert.

😉
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yes my 15yrs at radio station doesn't qualify me at all either.
Exactly how do you measure "greatest musician"? Is there some scale I am un aware of or is it just SUBJECTIVE like ALL music is subjective?

 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Homerboy
now i'm convinced!
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Exactly... there's no subjective-ism in there at all.
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I'm sure I have no idea what I'm talking about. I only own some 10,000 albums, most of which is rock. I'm sure it was pure subjectivism that caused me to go out and buy Rush's complete discography, and not my deep appreciation for good rock musicianship. I'm also sure that if you were to ask the rock lovers here what the greatest concert they've ever seen was, the answer surely wouldn't be Rush by an overwhelming margin, or that the reason given for that wouldn't be their outstanding musicianship in concert.

😉
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assuming you actually do own ~10,000 albums, that (to me) only means that you're a compulsive collector, not that you have a "deep appreciation for good rock musicianship." i'd think a "deep appreciator" would pick out the cream-of-the-crop and studiously listen to those albums/bands.

there's a lot more to good music than technical proficiency... and even if that's the most important matter to you, there's maaany better musicians than those in rush (albiet the rush dudes are quite talented). you might not like their asthetic, but i could name a handful of better (more proficient) players than neal and geddy of the top of my head.
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Exactly how do you measure "greatest musician"? Is there some scale I am un aware of or is it just SUBJECTIVE like ALL music is subjective?
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Obviously by the musician's skill at his/her instrument. Are you saying that the conductor of some pretigious orchestra hires musicians based solely on some subjective whim?

And my collection is "cream of the crop," as best as I can make it according to my own standards (which are IMO quite high). Unfortunately, I have purchased some turkeys, like Metallica's St. Anger for example. But for the most part, I do try to pick the best. Do you people have any idea just how much music there is out there? Millions and millions and millions of albums.
 
Originally posted by: davestar
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Homerboy
now i'm convinced!
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Exactly... there's no subjective-ism in there at all.
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I'm sure I have no idea what I'm talking about. I only own some 10,000 albums, most of which is rock. I'm sure it was pure subjectivism that caused me to go out and buy Rush's complete discography, and not my deep appreciation for good rock musicianship. I'm also sure that if you were to ask the rock lovers here what the greatest concert they've ever seen was, the answer surely wouldn't be Rush by an overwhelming margin, or that the reason given for that wouldn't be their outstanding musicianship in concert.

😉
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assuming you actually do own ~10,000 albums, that (to me) only means that you're a compulsive collector, not that you have a "deep appreciation for good rock musicianship." i'd think a "deep appreciator" would pick out the cream-of-the-crop and studiously listen to those albums/bands.

there's a lot more to good music than technical proficiency... and even if that's the most important matter to you, there's maaany better musicians than those in rush (albiet the rush dudes are quite talented). you might not like their asthetic, but i could name a handful of better (more proficient) players than neal and geddy of the top of my head.
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Then why not do that instead of just saying that you could? Oh that's right, you're still trolling. Sorry if you hate them because of their political message or whatever. :roll:
I try not to let irrelevancies like politics get in the way of my musical appreciation.
 
Rock is about creativity and sounding good more than technical proficiency. Malmsteem is an amazing guitarist, but I really don't care for his music...at all. Rock music isn't hard at all to play when compared to music like the big bands era or classical music (the greatest musicians in the world). I've played guitar for 7 years and I know I can play just about every Rush song...hell I can play every Metallica song too. And I can play them well. But...only the greatest hand-selected musicians in the entire world that have dedicated their lives to playing much harder to play instruments (violins, etc) than guitar and bass and drums can play a symphony by say Berlioz or Sibelius. Truly amazing work there.

Rush is a very complete band. They aren't one-sided on anything and can either bring tears to your eyes with one song or make you want to jump up and pump your fist and play the air guitar all full of energy. IMO, this is what makes them a great band. No weak points whatsoever.
 
Originally posted by: f4phantom2500
You could argue that the guys from rush are "better" than these guys, but you could just as easily argue that these guys are better.
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You could just as easily argue that the guitar player from Blink 182 is better than Lifeson but who knows how "good" anyone really is? Delonge plays up-beat happy punk-rock (Blink is among the best to do so) music which isn't hard to play, but that doesn't mean he can't play any Rush song on guitar, either.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: davestar
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Homerboy
now i'm convinced!
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Exactly... there's no subjective-ism in there at all.
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I'm sure I have no idea what I'm talking about. I only own some 10,000 albums, most of which is rock. I'm sure it was pure subjectivism that caused me to go out and buy Rush's complete discography, and not my deep appreciation for good rock musicianship. I'm also sure that if you were to ask the rock lovers here what the greatest concert they've ever seen was, the answer surely wouldn't be Rush by an overwhelming margin, or that the reason given for that wouldn't be their outstanding musicianship in concert.

😉
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assuming you actually do own ~10,000 albums, that (to me) only means that you're a compulsive collector, not that you have a "deep appreciation for good rock musicianship." i'd think a "deep appreciator" would pick out the cream-of-the-crop and studiously listen to those albums/bands.

there's a lot more to good music than technical proficiency... and even if that's the most important matter to you, there's maaany better musicians than those in rush (albiet the rush dudes are quite talented). you might not like their asthetic, but i could name a handful of better (more proficient) players than neal and geddy of the top of my head.
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Then why not do that instead of just saying that you could? Oh that's right, you're still trolling. Sorry if you hate them because of their political message or whatever. :roll:
I try not to let irrelevancies like politics get in the way of my musical appreciation.
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politics? what the hell are you talking about? i dislike rush's lyrics because they're nerdy, cold, pretentious, goofy, etc, etc. cool if you don't agree with me, but there's a reason why rush is so popular among "nerds"...

guitarists:

Muhammed Suiçmez of Necrophagist
John Petrucci of Dream Theater
Yngwie Malmsteen of his really lame self
Alexi Laiho of Children of Bodom

drummers:

Chris Pennie of Dillinger Escape Plan
Tomas Haake of Meshuggah
Marco Minnemann of Necrophagist
Derek Roddy of Hate Eternal (and many other bands)

i could go on and on, but what would it prove? there's always going to be some unknown who's wanked away in his bedroom his whole life and went to music school who's "better" than your favorite guitarist/drummer/bassist/whatever. there's no point in saying that peart (or lee) is the best musician ever, because he's simply not. if he's your favorite, cool. congrats. enjoy.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Rock is about creativity and sounding good more than technical proficiency. Malmsteem is an amazing guitarist, but I really don't care for his music...at all. Rock music isn't hard at all to play when compared to music like the big bands era or classical music (the greatest musicians in the world). I've played guitar for 7 years and I know I can play just about every Rush song...hell I can play every Metallica song too. And I can play them well. But...only the greatest hand-selected musicians in the entire world that have dedicated their lives to playing much harder to play instruments (violins, etc) than guitar and bass and drums can play a symphony by say Berlioz or Sibelius. Truly amazing work there.

Rush is a very complete band. They aren't one-sided on anything and can either bring tears to your eyes with one song or make you want to jump up and pump your fist and play the air guitar all full of energy. IMO, this is what makes them a great band. No weak points whatsoever.
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I love big band/swing era music. Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Count Basie, you name it. Oh yeah... could listen for hours and hours.
Jazz too. I saw Dave Brubeck in concert at the Hult in Eugene a few years ago. No arthritis in those fingers! Amazing he still had it even though he's so old he practically had to be carried to the piano.

As of Lifeson's guitar, I'd argue that it's a wee bit more difficult to play than Metallica. But then again, I'm not a guitarist, I'm going off what other guitarists have told me.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: f4phantom2500
You could argue that the guys from rush are "better" than these guys, but you could just as easily argue that these guys are better.
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You could just as easily argue that the guitar player from Blink 182 is better than Lifeson but who knows how "good" anyone really is? Delonge plays up-beat happy punk-rock (Blink is among the best to do so) music which isn't hard to play, but that doesn't mean he can't play any Rush song on guitar, either.
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That's a stupid point. Until I see him play Rush, I will assume that he can't. Likewise, from what I've heard from Rush, I think that, overall, they are not the most talented musicians in the world. They're good and they play very well together, no doubt about it, but I think Jojo Mayer is a better drummer than Neil Peart, Steve Vai is a better guitarist than Alex Lifeson, and Victor Wooten is a better bassist than Geddy Lee. Who's to say who is actually better? Unless you could somehow rate how good they are on a standard scale, there's no way to tell because they're all very very talented musicians. Deciding who is a better musician is a very biased argument.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
I love big band/swing era music. Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Count Basie, you name it. Oh yeah... could listen for hours and hours.
Jazz too. I saw Dave Brubeck in concert at the Hult in Eugene a few years ago. No arthritis in those fingers! Amazing he still had it even though he's so old he practically had to be carried to the piano.

As of Lifeson's guitar, I'd argue that it's a wee bit more difficult to play than Metallica. But then again, I'm not a guitarist, I'm going off what other guitarists have told me.
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Ella Fitzgerald, IMO, is the greatest singer of all time. From the youtube video, I'd say you're right about Lifeson vs Metallica. Rush is a progressive rock band which means there will be no simple scales.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: foghorn67
I respect them as musicians. But geez, how can you stand a voice that sounds like that. And the lyrics, how corny can you get?
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Tell ya what, why don't you give us an example of these "corny" lyrics?
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Concert Hall. RAAAAAA!!!!!
blah, blah, blah. Salesman!!!!
 
Originally posted by: Dean
Time to silence the critics 🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lhj5dTptqM&mode=related&search=
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watch the 1st link next to "Drums:" on my first post.

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: f4phantom2500
That's a stupid point.
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Who's to say who is actually better?
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That is my point 🙂
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I thought your point was that just because they don't play the music doesn't mean that they can't. True, but until they do I assume they can't and go off of what I've heard of them. My point was who's to say who is definitively better...you can't really do that, as it will probably be like this guy's better doing this, but the other guy's better doing this, etc. My opinion is that those 3 guys are better than Rush, but I couldn't definitively say that they are better than Rush in every possible aspect, no question.
 
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