Best Quake?

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quake2 of course.

I don't know why anybody would ask such a question. It's soooo obvious.

 

[LeetViet]

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[DaveSimmons]

Q2 DM & CTF were much more fun (for me) than Q3. Not that I was ever that great at either, but Q2 had great maps, user maps and mods, grappling hooks, a better railgun, and just felt less cartoony.

Q3 was awkwardly in between the more measured pace of Q2 and the fun ultraviolence of Unreal Tournament.

 

[Nothinman]

Q1 deserves the nod simply because it was revolutionary as the first true 3D FPS and it was ultra fast and fun, how many other games from 1996 are still being played today?

But most of my time was spent in Q3 (Q3F to be exact), it's got all of the fast action and great physics of Q1 combined with a rendering engine that looks great too.

Q2 was terrible, it seemed like a bad attempt by Carmack's to combine Quake and Doom while he was still learning the ins and outs of OpenGL. Definately one of the low points in his career IMO.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Thunderwalker quake 1

 

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While I didn't like quake3 default multiplayer very much, I do still like to play Quake3 mods.

Id was suppose to release Quake3 engine with a GPL liscence this month, but they put it off because they just sold part of it to a third party developer and didn't want to piss them off for giving it away for free.

From Cammark's blog:

I intended to release the Q3 source under the GPL by the end of 2004, but we had another large technology licensing deal go through, and it would be poor form to make the source public a few months after a company paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for full rights to it. True, being public under the GPL isn?t the same as having a royalty free license without the need to disclose the source, but I?m pretty sure there would be some hard feelings.

Previous source code releases were held up until the last commercial license of the technology shipped, but with the evolving nature of game engines today, it is a lot less clear. There are still bits of early Quake code in Half Life 2, and the remaining licensees of Q3 technology intend to continue their internal developments along similar lines, so there probably won?t be nearly as sharp a cutoff as before. I am still committed to making as much source public as I can, and I won?t wait until the titles from the latest deal have actually shipped, but it is still going to be a little while before I feel comfortable doing the release.

 

[DaveSimmons]

The Q2 engine was quite good for its day. I still remember upgrading to a Voodoo3 2000 card and going "wow" at the colored lighting effects that appeared when I switched to the hardware rendering code path.

Carmack deserves a lot of credit not only for pushing forward 3D engine development, but also for making "obsolete" engines like Q2 available for people to learn from, teach with, and use for open projects.

 

[abaez]

quake 1 started everything. Major tournaments (red annihilation), big time players (thresh), and it was the first time anyone thought to optimize a game for people to play against each other online (quakeworld). Plus the original threewave ctf for it is still one of the greatest mods ever created.

 

[notfred]

Quake 3, because it has the best railgun maps. Quake 1 didn't even have a railgun.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Quake 2

 

[Vad3r]

Thunderwalker quake 1

Yes, thank god I'm not the only one that got to play this excellent version of CTF. Over the years I've mentioned this mod to players here and there over the years while playing other games. So many have never heard of it.
While it's difficult for me to pick which Quake I liked best, I have to give Thunderwalker my "most fun factor" pick.

 

[Sunner]

Quake1 without a doubt.
Quake2 was so slow it could make my grandma would fall asleep.
Quake3 was a bit more like Quake1, but I still prefer 1.

This is of course talking from a multiplayer point of view, in singleplayer Quake2 was definitely the best.

 

[ramj70]

Quake IV is looking like a very nice game, Doom III graphics, Quake II action.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: Sunner
Quake1 without a doubt.
Quake2 was so slow it could make my grandma would fall asleep.
Quake3 was a bit more like Quake1, but I still prefer 1.

This is of course talking from a multiplayer point of view, in singleplayer Quake2 was definitely the best.

My thoughts exactly. :thumbsup:

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Q2 was terrible, it seemed like a bad attempt by Carmack's to combine Quake and Doom while he was still learning the ins and outs of OpenGL. Definately one of the low points in his career IMO.

His LOWEST point - so far - is Doom iii.
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Tell me he no longer has anything to do with Quake IV.
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[Rankor]

Quake GL on a Voodoo 1 playing the Mechwarrior 2 Mercenaries game ost in the background.

 

[Czar]

quak1 ctf!!!!

 

[Nothinman]

His LOWEST point - so far - is Doom iii.

I said Q2 was one of the low points, not the lowest. But I don't think DoomIII is the lowest point, the story may not be all that great but the engine is great and will most likely be the base for some great games in the future.

Tell me he no longer has anything to do with Quake IV.

If id doesn't develop Q4 it'll probably suck because things like bunnyhopping which are technically bugs will most likely get removed/fixed and then we'll just be stuck with another FPS with sh!tty physics like UT.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

His LOWEST point - so far - is Doom iii.

I said Q2 was one of the low points, not the lowest. But I don't think DoomIII is the lowest point, the story may not be all that great but the engine is great and will most likely be the base for some great games in the future.

Tell me he no longer has anything to do with Quake IV.

If id doesn't develop Q4 it'll probably suck because things like bunnyhopping which are technically bugs will most likely get removed/fixed and then we'll just be stuck with another FPS with sh!tty physics like UT.

Please try to separate the engine from the game. The diii engine is NOT Doom iii . . . . the game is his LOW point (just as Daikatana was Romero's) . . . . the engine itself seems Xlint! We'll see when Q4 and other games using it come out.

Well, if his philosophy regarding Q4 remains unchanged from Doom iii, it will also be a POS . . . . i'm hoping someone ELSE - with excellent modern game development skills - are in charge of Q4.

Who knows for sure?

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Nothinman

His LOWEST point - so far - is Doom iii.

I said Q2 was one of the low points, not the lowest. But I don't think DoomIII is the lowest point, the story may not be all that great but the engine is great and will most likely be the base for some great games in the future.

Tell me he no longer has anything to do with Quake IV.

If id doesn't develop Q4 it'll probably suck because things like bunnyhopping which are technically bugs will most likely get removed/fixed and then we'll just be stuck with another FPS with sh!tty physics like UT.

Please try to separate the engine from the game. The diii engine is NOT Doom iii . . . . the game is his LOW point (just as Daikatana was Romero's) . . . . the engine itself seems Xlint! We'll see when Q4 and other games using it come out.

Well, if his philosophy regarding Q4 remains unchanged from Doom iii, it will also be a POS . . . . i'm hoping someone ELSE - with excellent modern game development skills - are in charge of Q4.

Who knows for sure?

Exactly, I doubt Carmack had much to do with the story itself in Doom III.
The engine is superb, artwork is very good, the thing that's lacking is the gameplay, I doubt Carmack had much to do with that.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Nothinman

His LOWEST point - so far - is Doom iii.

I said Q2 was one of the low points, not the lowest. But I don't think DoomIII is the lowest point, the story may not be all that great but the engine is great and will most likely be the base for some great games in the future.

Tell me he no longer has anything to do with Quake IV.

If id doesn't develop Q4 it'll probably suck because things like bunnyhopping which are technically bugs will most likely get removed/fixed and then we'll just be stuck with another FPS with sh!tty physics like UT.

Please try to separate the engine from the game. The diii engine is NOT Doom iii . . . . the game is his LOW point (just as Daikatana was Romero's) . . . . the engine itself seems Xlint! We'll see when Q4 and other games using it come out.

Well, if his philosophy regarding Q4 remains unchanged from Doom iii, it will also be a POS . . . . i'm hoping someone ELSE - with excellent modern game development skills - are in charge of Q4.

Who knows for sure?

Exactly, I doubt Carmack had much to do with the story itself in Doom III.
The engine is superb, artwork is very good, the thing that's lacking is the gameplay, I doubt Carmack had much to do with that.

nonsense, Diii was his 'baby'. He was responsible for the crap that went out as Diii. The man 'in charge'.

 

[Nothinman]

Please try to separate the engine from the game. The diii engine is NOT Doom iii . . . . the game is his LOW point (just as Daikatana was Romero's) . . . . the engine itself seems Xlint!

id games are almost aways little more than a demo for their latest engine and for the longest time the sustaining force behind their games has been multiplayer and mods. I don't think the DIII story was any worse than the Q2 story.

 

[mattsaccount]

And I wouldn't blame Carmack for crummy gameplay (not that I think it was crummy--I had a blast and will definitey get the expansion). Has anyone looked at the credits for Doom III?

Artist Adrian Carmack, Kevin Cloud, Andy Chang, Seneca Menard, Patrick Thomas
Technical Director John Carmack
CEO Todd Hollenshead
Lead Designer Tim Willits
Sound Designer Christian Antkow
Programmer Timothee Besset, Jim Dosé, Jan Paul van Waveren, Jonathan Wright
Designer Mal Blackwell, Matt Hooper, Jerry Keehan, Steve Rescoe
Media Artist Patrick Duffy
Lead Programmer Robert A. Duffy
Animator James Houska, Fredrik Nilsson, Eric Webb
Office Manager and id Mom Donna Jackson
Lead Artist Kenneth Scott
Dir. Business Development Marty Stratton
Development Assistant Eric Webb

If you want to blame someone for poor gameplay, blame Willits and his cohorts, not Carmack.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: mattsaccount
And I wouldn't blame Carmack for crummy gameplay (not that I think it was crummy--I had a blast and will definitey get the expansion). Has anyone looked at the credits for Doom III?

Artist Adrian Carmack, Kevin Cloud, Andy Chang, Seneca Menard, Patrick Thomas
Technical Director John Carmack
CEO Todd Hollenshead
Lead Designer Tim Willits
Sound Designer Christian Antkow
Programmer Timothee Besset, Jim Dosé, Jan Paul van Waveren, Jonathan Wright
Designer Mal Blackwell, Matt Hooper, Jerry Keehan, Steve Rescoe
Media Artist Patrick Duffy
Lead Programmer Robert A. Duffy
Animator James Houska, Fredrik Nilsson, Eric Webb
Office Manager and id Mom Donna Jackson
Lead Artist Kenneth Scott
Dir. Business Development Marty Stratton
Development Assistant Eric Webb

If you want to blame someone for poor gameplay, blame Willits and his cohorts, not Carmack.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Technical Director
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Technical Director is usually the senior technical person within a single business unit of a company. This person usually possesses the highest level of competence in a specific technical field and may be recognized as an expert in that industry. The technical director provides technical direction on business decision and in the execution of specific projects. He or she may be assigned to a single project, or may oversee a number of projects with related technologies. This position is often similar to that of Chief Scientist or Chief Engineer, but perhaps more involved in business decisions. Technical Directors and Chief Scientists often report to the Chief Technology Officer of the company.
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In a Production Control Room (PCR), the Technical Director has overall responsibility for the operations. Technical director is responsible for the proper working of all the equipment is in the PCR. He also matches the quality and the output of all the cameras on the studio floor through the camera control units. It is his or her responsibility to supervise all the other crew members working in the PCR. He also coordinates the working of whole crew and looks into any technical problem which arises before, during or after the shooting.

In theatre, the technical director is responsible for overseeing the construction and rigging of stage scenery. As a part of this job, the technical director creates working drawings from the scenic designer's drawings, in order to communicate construction to the scene shop.

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Nope. Blame Carmack . . . . the "technical director" screwed up.
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