best o/c board for a P4 3.4C

Soulkeeper

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i would get something with the i875 chipset
i865 if yur on a budget
abit and asus are the two top dawgs right now imho for the p4

good luck
 

daos

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if you plan on doing extreme overclocking, then go with ABit Max3 and volt mod the board. if not, then go with Asus. Asus has a problem with Vcore fluctuation when voltage is over 1.6v. Abit has a Vtt problem in which Vtt stops tracking Vddr after 2.8v. so, if your memory is set to 3.2v, Vtt should equal 1.6v. but on the Abit, at 3.2v, Vtt is only 1.3v which leads to instability unless modded for the fix.

but, ocne the Abit Max3 is modded, and everything is the way it should be, its by far the fastest and best performing motherboard on the market BAR NONE. the world record fsb was set with a modded IC7 at 400fsb(1600Mhz).

good luck on your journey.
 

Acanthus

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He wont need a volt mod of any kind for OCing a 3.4C...

With a multiplier that high he shouldnt go over a 225fsb, which means he wont need any volt mods of any kind.
 

MichaelZ

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exactly. besides, he'll hit a wall of heat unless there's some very decent cooling. i'd be very supprised if a 3.4C managed to hit the 4 ghz mark on any of those motherboards recommended.
 

Jojo1971

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Originally posted by: topdog
need a stable & reliable o/c board for above cpu , help me.....
thanks

youll only be running at less than 250 fsb..i guess you can go with the cheaper mobos like the is7, ic7, p4p800 instead of getting the p4c800-e or max-3
 

sauria

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Originally posted by: daos
if you plan on doing extreme overclocking, then go with ABit Max3 and volt mod the board. if not, then go with Asus. Asus has a problem with Vcore fluctuation when voltage is over 1.6v. Abit has a Vtt problem in which Vtt stops tracking Vddr after 2.8v. so, if your memory is set to 3.2v, Vtt should equal 1.6v. but on the Abit, at 3.2v, Vtt is only 1.3v which leads to instability unless modded for the fix.

but, ocne the Abit Max3 is modded, and everything is the way it should be, its by far the fastest and best performing motherboard on the market BAR NONE. the world record fsb was set with a modded IC7 at 400fsb(1600Mhz).

good luck on your journey.

Daos : DO you have a link to this issue? Thanks.

 

Fricardo

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Originally posted by: topdog
thanks guys,
purchased an asus P4C800-E

Good choice. I built my friend a system with the deluxe version of that board last fall. It had all the performance and features that it claimed.
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: sauria
Originally posted by: daos
if you plan on doing extreme overclocking, then go with ABit Max3 and volt mod the board. if not, then go with Asus. Asus has a problem with Vcore fluctuation when voltage is over 1.6v. Abit has a Vtt problem in which Vtt stops tracking Vddr after 2.8v. so, if your memory is set to 3.2v, Vtt should equal 1.6v. but on the Abit, at 3.2v, Vtt is only 1.3v which leads to instability unless modded for the fix.

but, ocne the Abit Max3 is modded, and everything is the way it should be, its by far the fastest and best performing motherboard on the market BAR NONE. the world record fsb was set with a modded IC7 at 400fsb(1600Mhz).

good luck on your journey.

Daos : DO you have a link to this issue? Thanks.

no no he's right..

this is for real...

you need a vtt mod after 2.8 volts... cuz vtt loses track... and even after mod, it does some weird stuff sometimes...

but yeah, hands down.... the ic7-max3 is the best board out with ALL mods done...
 

wicktron

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Originally posted by: Shimmishim
Originally posted by: sauria
Originally posted by: daos
if you plan on doing extreme overclocking, then go with ABit Max3 and volt mod the board. if not, then go with Asus. Asus has a problem with Vcore fluctuation when voltage is over 1.6v. Abit has a Vtt problem in which Vtt stops tracking Vddr after 2.8v. so, if your memory is set to 3.2v, Vtt should equal 1.6v. but on the Abit, at 3.2v, Vtt is only 1.3v which leads to instability unless modded for the fix.

but, ocne the Abit Max3 is modded, and everything is the way it should be, its by far the fastest and best performing motherboard on the market BAR NONE. the world record fsb was set with a modded IC7 at 400fsb(1600Mhz).

good luck on your journey.

Daos : DO you have a link to this issue? Thanks.

no no he's right..

this is for real...

you need a vtt mod after 2.8 volts... cuz vtt loses track... and even after mod, it does some weird stuff sometimes...

but yeah, hands down.... the ic7-max3 is the best board out with ALL mods done...

Agree with VTT issue, disagree with IC7-Max3 being the best.
P4C800-E is the best, IMO
 

jpetermann

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Agree with VTT issue, disagree with IC7-Max3 being the best.
P4C800-E is the best, IMO


Well, you are both right, and wrong! :)

Asus is best for the high low multiplier/high fsb overclocking, the Abit is best for the high multiplier overclocking and using the Streetracer setting. I have both boards, and I love them both for different reasons. My rig has the Max3 in right now with a 3.2C at 225fsb, and streetracer setting and it is one fast rig! It beats out my p4c800E with the 2.4C at 280fsb 1:1 in nearly if not all of my benchmarks.

Personally, youcan't go wrong with either as long as you put the right CPU in! ;)
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: pastorjay
Agree with VTT issue, disagree with IC7-Max3 being the best.
P4C800-E is the best, IMO


Well, you are both right, and wrong! :)

Asus is best for the high low multiplier/high fsb overclocking, the Abit is best for the high multiplier overclocking and using the Streetracer setting. I have both boards, and I love them both for different reasons. My rig has the Max3 in right now with a 3.2C at 225fsb, and streetracer setting and it is one fast rig! It beats out my p4c800E with the 2.4C at 280fsb 1:1 in nearly if not all of my benchmarks.

Personally, youcan't go wrong with either as long as you put the right CPU in! ;)


clock speed of 3360 (2.4C @ 12 x 280)vs. 3600 (3.2C @ 16 x 225)

of course the 3.2C's goign to win (most benchmarks that are clockspeed dependent)!!!

also... what timings are u using to run 280 1:1? 3-4-4-8?

and you're using 2-2-2-6 1:1 225 mhz...

that's probably why it wins out on everything...


if you could get a 2.4C with some nice bh-5's to do ... 260 to 270 mhz 2-2-2-5 or 2-2-2-6 i'm sure it'd still lose to your 3.2c due to sheer clockspeed... except for maybe 3dmock2k1...

2.4C @ 3.5 with 5:4 vs
3.0C @ 4.0 with 5:4 performed almost the same on 3dmark2k1.... but it the 2.4 lost on any other benchmark due to the 500 mhz raw speed advantage it had...

i'm sure there are some other benches where the 2.4c would be favored due to it's higher bandwidth but any test that is clockspeed dependent, the 2.4c will lose...
 

jpetermann

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My focus was really on the Street racer setting on the Abit boards. Even at ONLY 450ddr the read scores in Aida are over 200 points more on the Abit with the streetracer compared to the 280 and 1:1 on the Asus. I agree with the clockspeed difference. I have moved away from high 1:1 and lame settings to faster CPU's and tighter ram timings. Abit did a good thing with the Gat settings on their boards. Just ask Thugs, he will tell you!
 

THUGSROOK

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the IC7 running cas2 ram 1:1 with Streetracer enabled is the fastest combination to any other by far.
the Streetracer option is that good.

i ran a 2.4b @ 189+fsb with the 1:1 streetracer combination for a very long time, cause it was very fast.

:)
 

sauria

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Originally posted by: pastorjay
Agree with VTT issue, disagree with IC7-Max3 being the best.
P4C800-E is the best, IMO


Well, you are both right, and wrong! :)

Asus is best for the high low multiplier/high fsb overclocking, the Abit is best for the high multiplier overclocking and using the Streetracer setting. I have both boards, and I love them both for different reasons. My rig has the Max3 in right now with a 3.2C at 225fsb, and streetracer setting and it is one fast rig! It beats out my p4c800E with the 2.4C at 280fsb 1:1 in nearly if not all of my benchmarks.

Personally, youcan't go wrong with either as long as you put the right CPU in! ;)

Pastor, did you do a mod or VTT fix (RMA) from ABit to your Max3?
 

daos

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yeah, my Max3 was fried during an attempted volt mod. :( so now on to the IC7-G which is Vdd, Vtt, Vdimm, and Vagp. voltages are Vdd=1.75v, Vtt=1.65v, Vdimm=3.3v, and Vagp=1.9v. Im using the Mushkin PC3500 lvl2 @ DDR500 2-2-2-6 StreetRacer Enabled. the 3.2 is set to a nice 1:1 at 250fsb under the Vapochill.

just to give you guys a picture of how much the StreetRacer makes a difference in 3dmark.... at 4.0Ghz 1:1 2-2-2-6 with GAT=A,A,A,A,A my 3dmarks are well within the 23k mark. as soon as i tweak the GAT options to StreetRacer, Enhanced, 5, Enabled, Enabled my 3dmark goes to 24k+... highest so far was 24,473 with the 9800xt at 522/400. but that was really pushing my card, and i only run that little sucker 24/7 at 510/390.

in the end, StreetRacer makes a HUGE difference, and not only in 3dmarks. also, they have alot of 3.4's out there that hit 4.0Ghz on air with stock cooling. now we are only talking a 236fsb, but its still 4.0Ghz on AIR!

check this thread for more information on the overclockability on the 3.4 northies...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27948&highlight=benchies
 

sauria

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Thanks Pastor -- maybe with a 2.8C it will do a little better than a 2.4c? Higher multiplier but maybe not high enough?