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dullard

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As for CNBC, Kudlow and Kramer are FOX-lite . . . they just talk faster, louder, and are less pleasing to the eye.
Kudlow and Kramer is the only biased news that I will watch (even though they favor the side I dislike). They are completely upfront with their bias everytime they use it. It makes it nice to pick out the truth from their hopes. Sadly Fox News and MSNBC attempt to hide their bias in with real news (most shows).
 

NightTrain

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I watched two different news reports this afternoon on the column leaving Basra.

MSNBC:

"Another setback for the already stalled coalition forces, an Iraqi column broke out of Basra today and headed south..."

Fox:

"An Iraqi column left the city of Basra today headed south.."

 

magomago

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BBC...as for the other side if you can understand Arabic I would ONLY reccomend Al-Jazeera.

The rest of the governments have controlled press that prints what it feels like
 

Ornery

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CNN is my shepherd, I shall not question!
  • CNN is doing a bang up job. As Dan Hon investigates, their online transcript of Hans Blix's report to the UN is missing 866 words. The bits Blix said about Iraq complying with the UN resolution, and the bit where he refutes Colin Powell's evidence from the week before. Nice and subtle, boys.
    rolleye.gif
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: NightTrain
I watched two different news reports this afternoon on the column leaving Basra.

MSNBC:

"Another setback for the already stalled coalition forces, an Iraqi column broke out of Basra today and headed south..."

Fox:

"An Iraqi column left the city of Basra today headed south.."
CNN:

Republican Guard drives at U.S. troops
rolleye.gif
 

NightTrain

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: NightTrain
I watched two different news reports this afternoon on the column leaving Basra.

MSNBC:

"Another setback for the already stalled coalition forces, an Iraqi column broke out of Basra today and headed south..."

Fox:

"An Iraqi column left the city of Basra today headed south.."
CNN:

Republican Guard drives at U.S. troops
rolleye.gif


1. That's the column from Baghdad, not Basra.
2. CNN just reported that column might not exist.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: NightTrain
Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: NightTrain
I watched two different news reports this afternoon on the column leaving Basra.

MSNBC:

"Another setback for the already stalled coalition forces, an Iraqi column broke out of Basra today and headed south..."

Fox:

"An Iraqi column left the city of Basra today headed south.."
CNN:

Republican Guard drives at U.S. troops
rolleye.gif


1. That's the column from Baghdad, not Basra.
2. CNN just reported that column might not exist.
Oops, sorry. I didn't catch that!
 

NightTrain

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Originally posted by: OrneryOops, sorry. I didn't catch that!


There will be no reprisals this time but I will keep my fluffy pillow and comfy chair handy just in case.
 

Baldy18

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3.5 million people are watching the war coverage on CNN in the US and 4.0 million are getting there new coverage from Fox New. That is according to the AP via The Bob and Tom Show which I get all my news from.;):p
 

NightTrain

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"When Fox News challenged CNN's cable news dominance in 1996, Ted Turner announced that he would 'squish [Fox owner Rupert] Murdoch like a bug.' Five years later the bug has grown into a monster that's devouring Turner's CNN. Upstart Fox News Channel's viewership has jumped an astounding 430 percent over the last three years while rival CNN has declined by 28 percent."
 

Ornery

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They have pretty darn sharp, quick on their feet, folks at Fox, like Steve Doocy. Really likeable, yet sharp as a tack. His sidekick, Brian, is no slouch either.

Brit Hume speaks for himself. The man is untouchable.

Sue me, but I also LOVE getting the news from their gorgeous gals, too. Just so refreshing! ;)
 

Sketcher

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I pretty much go through CNN, Drudge and BBC.

Have a couple friends who patch me satellite feeds.
 

Piano Man

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I read the UK Independent, CNN, FOXNews, MSNBC, Al - Jazeera. Its best to read all of them so you can filter out all the B.S. And trust me, the BS is on both sides. Out of all of them, I like the Independent the most, because instead of just showing troop movements, they report on how the citizens of the country are dealing with the war.
 

wnied

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someting in the line of drudge report.

If your not looking for Bias, what the hell you reading Drudges stuff for???




BBC


This is where I watch the war.
~wnied~
 

joohang

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Not biased is a bias in itself.

Just read other sources. Try foreign language media too, if you speak other languages.
 

Wolfie

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Always keep this in mind too... Most reports are always "So and so is reporting...." or "...._______ reports" They never seem to report something of their own very offen. So if the info is wrong. They can blame someone else. heh

I agree with exp on this one...


Your best option is to gather data from what all sides are reporting and then use your own judgment in determining which information is accurate, which is possibly valid, which is just rumor/speculation, and which is lies/propaganda.

Wolfie
 

alnitak

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Just discovered this thread, and I must say I am quite dismayed to see the BBC recommended as a source of "unbiased" news. That may have been true once upon a time (caveat meaning of unbiased) but is most certainly is not any more. As a Brit, let me tell you that the BBC is stuffed to the gills with left-wing/liberal anti-Americans (and anti-British!). I am finding that their coverage is basically unwatchable/unlistenable. Anybody who had just come from Mars and only had the BBC to listen to would think that the coalition forces were getting their asses kicked in Iraq.

The BBC's commentators and reporters are snide, supercilious, and constantly looking to invent divisions between UK and US positions. BBC newsteams have in the past been condemned for left-wing bias, and management positions in that organisation are often filled by Labour Party appoint-niks (cf Greg ***). Check out Letter From America by Alistair Cooke on their web site - note how incongruous it is when compared to their other coverage. He represents the BBC as it was, when it was decent.

The Independent is even worse. When this paper was launched their advertising tag-line was "The Independent. It Is. Are you?". Today they would be better running with "The Independent. It's socialist and rabidly anti-American. Are you?"

Decent UK news sources include The Telegraph, The Times, The Economist (mainly weekly updates, on Friday). The Spectator is a commentary magazine with both left and right-wing views. I also like The Wall Street Journal Opinion page, though that's a US source, obviously. Their "Best Of The Web" is usually funny and a good starting point for links to other current news stories.

For the other side of the story, you might check Asia Times Online, or, even worse, Arab News (Saudi Government Site). It doesn't say "this is a mouthpiece of the Saudi Goverment" all over it, but given that all the media in that country are controlled by the goverment...well...
 

alexruiz

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I suggested arabnews.com, I also suggested the english site of Pravda. I personally follow the news in the leading newspaper of the nation www.el-universal.com.mx, which is mostly balanced. TV networks in Mexico are right-wing, and my favorite newspaper (La Jornada) is leftwing, but I use them all. In addition, the big media of the USa is used, plus Le Monde, BBC, Pravda as I said. PianoMan is totally right, there is BS almost everywhere..... so you need to get as much DIVERSE coverage as you can.
 

steell

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Check out This place. It is a Russian website that claims to quote intelligence reports on the war, prepared by the GRU.

Hard to get to, sometimes, though.

 

Ferocious

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BBC is probably the best.

2nd choice would probably be CNN.

I used to like MSNBC....but they are starting to falter and give in to the pressure of ratings.

And Fox is more entertainment than real news.