Best headphones under $50 for IPOD

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Bad analogies. The OP wanted to use headphones to alleviate his bad bass/SQ problem. I only truthfully told him that, due to the source of the problem not being the headphones in the first place, new headphones wouldn't fix it.[/quote]

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mchammer187

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: mchammer187
the last is your opinion and you are entitled to it

again you still go into ipod threads and comment on this rather than helping th OP out at all

he asked for headphones you crapped on the ipod

I put an "imo" in front of my comment on the iPod's looks, and if you bothered reading the post you'll see I only commented on it in relation to the OP's question until the rabid fanboys attacked me, and obviously I'll defend myself when attacked.

and the link you posted bashing the ipod did mention that using better quality headphones did alleviate some of the sound quality issues but rather than that you just bashed the ipod some more

The link implied that higher quality headphones help only marginally and don't come close to alleviating the problem, and I've only "bashed" the iPod (by stating facts about it :roll: ) when you brought up other aspects of it. I figured you wanted to discuss it, since you brought up other ways in which you adore it.

how does that help him at all he already bought the ipod

Ebay, if it's important enough to him.

On Sony vs. Sennheiser: I haven't heard any Sony phones, much less Sony earbuds; I don't buy Sony products since they tend to be overpriced and of low quality, and since the company is so unethical. I do have a pair of Sennheiser hd280s (big cans) and can say they're excellent, but I haven't heard their earbuds either.


here is your first post in this thread

Hate to break it to ya, but it's not the headphones. Among many, many other reasons not to buy iPods is their notoriously bad sound quality. The price you pay for being trendy. Sorry man


how is that now insulting

also no one insulted until you compared ipod users to aol users

saying "are you on crack?" imo is not an insult and that was about the ipod earphones anyway not the ipod itself

you then comment saying the earphones are not a problem it is the fault of the ipod itself

then later down you say it comes with crappy earphones

no one says anything insulting to you until you say this:
If things worked that way AOL wouldn't have many subscribers and reality TV wouldn't have many viewers. But the average person is pretty damn stupid, and half of them are even dumber than that. Throw gimmicky white plastic and some tacky neon lights on just about anything and it'll sell.

you still didnt refute your comment on the price either

how you can say the ipod is expensive when it is the same price as the iriver



i can at least admit there are problems with the ipod and to

i conceded that the iriver has better EQ sound quality features and even battery life

in spite of that i still choose to purchase the ipod and if i had to make the decision again i would

you can't argue that the ipod's interface wins hands down
nor size (albeit a minor difference)

looks are subjective but i am not going to call the iriver a child's toy
even though i prefer the ipod's look much better
also last i heard not sure if this has changed:
the iriver could not make playlists on the fly that is one feature that I really thought was needed in 3g/4g ipods


you state this

perhaps you can't so easily admit fault with the iPod?


how is that a response to
i can admit fault in the ipod

i wish it didn't scratch so easily, i wish the EQ was better

i dont go running into any iriver thread and start crapping it

i know the ipod isn't perfect i even admitted one fault you never even mentioned

it scratches like a bitch and any time you touch it with your fingers it gets very ugly fingerprints

and actually that is my biggest complaint with it, ogg would be nice but none of the music i have on my computer is in ogg so it is not an issue for me

if i want good quality i will listen to a CD on my home theater for portable quality isnt as much of a factor to me, i was listening to the radio most of the time when outside so even though the ipod may sound horrible to you it does still sound better than radio which is what i'm used to

IMO you shouldn't post in ipod threads because this happens every time you do
 

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Let me summarize some of the finer points:

1. Anything subjective you say is fact, because people on another forum agree with you
2. Anything subjective someone else says is opinion, especially if it contradicts something from #1.
3. The bass on the iPod is too low, and there's no way to improve it with headphones, except that there is, but that doesn't count because you shouldn't have to use headphones to improve it, and thus the answer to the question is still to go on ebay and buy an iriver; note that it is definitely not to use a certain set of headphones that costs under $50 which will make the ipod have a richer bass sound and which are decent headphones.
4. If I ever disagree anything you say on a particular topic, I have a complete polarized opinion in the opposite direction.
5. The only analogies that are apt are ones which agree with your opinions
6. It's only off topic if you don't post it, even if everyone else on the planet considers it off topic
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: mchammer187also no one insulted until you compared ipod users to aol users
Wasn't my intent, I was just providing another example of an inferior and more expensive product doing well after being told that since the iPod is a commercial success, it must therefore be good. Only directed at someone who'd buy it because everyone else has one or because of its looks alone.
saying "are you on crack?" imo is not an insult
:Q
you state this

perhaps you can't so easily admit fault with the iPod?


how is that a response to
i can admit fault in the ipod

i wish it didn't scratch so easily, i wish the EQ was better

i dont go running into any iriver thread and start crapping it
You can tell me you admit the iPod's faults till you're blue in the face, but attacking me for stating factual information about it says you can't, and says it much louder.
how you can say the ipod is expensive when it is the same price as the iriver
The iRiver's features command a higher price. The iPod is lacking said features.
IMO you shouldn't post in ipod threads because this happens every time you do
Not my fault, I'm not going to let a bunch of kids determine where I can & can't post. I don't mind arguing, especially when others are so eager to make themselves look bad as to refute factual information and post not even in reply to someone but for the sole purpose of insulting them. Says more than me or anyone else about iPod users ;)
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: mchammer187also no one insulted until you compared ipod users to aol users
Wasn't my intent, I was just providing another example of an inferior and more expensive product doing well after being told that since the iPod is a commercial success, it must therefore be good. Only directed at someone who'd buy it because everyone else has one or because of its looks alone.
saying "are you on crack?" imo is not an insult
:Q
you state this

perhaps you can't so easily admit fault with the iPod?


how is that a response to
i can admit fault in the ipod

i wish it didn't scratch so easily, i wish the EQ was better

i dont go running into any iriver thread and start crapping it
You can tell me you admit the iPod's faults till you're blue in the face, but attacking me for stating factual information about it says you can't, and says it much louder.
how you can say the ipod is expensive when it is the same price as the iriver
The iRiver's features command a higher price. The iPod is lacking said features.
IMO you shouldn't post in ipod threads because this happens every time you do
Not my fault, I'm not going to let a bunch of kids determine where I can & can't post. I don't mind arguing, especially when others are so eager to make themselves look bad as to refute factual information and post not even in reply to someone but for the sole purpose of insulting them. Says more than me or anyone else about iPod users ;)


look at what i said i never attacked you for stating factual information

i attacked you for stating the ipod is an overpriced piece of junk

and all the owners are just idiots bandwagoneers who had their parent's buy it for them

again i dont go around bashing the iriver
and as i pointed out that you

not once did i attack any of your factual information
in fact i agreed with a lot of what you said about the iriver

i did however state that your post did not help the OP which it does not.
Wasn't my intent, I was just providing another example of an inferior and more expensive product doing well after being told that since the iPod is a commercial success, it must therefore be good. Only directed at someone who'd buy it because everyone else has one or because of its looks alone.

whether you intended to or not you made a blanket statement about ALL ipod users you made no discretion so I don't see how your comment could not be taken as an insult to someone that owns an ipod
 

LongCoolMother

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senn mx500/400s are the best for that price range. unless you're a bass head of course. then you can go out and buy the sony fontopias or nudes, they sound a lot worse.

the etys cant be had for that price. you'll need to jump it up to 100 for the er6s (which arent worth it either) or $200 for the er4s (which are worth it).
 

LongCoolMother

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Sennheiser sucks!!!
I've had their earphones before and they are not the best.. I like Sony over Sennheiser, and of course Grado..

Grado's IMHO are the "best." Their headphone wiring is superior to any other companies. Beyer makes quality products as well.

IMO
Grado>Beyer>Koss>Sennheiser>Bose...

Dunno why the Ipod vs all comparison is creating so much attn in a headphone thread.

OP: headphones are a very personal thing. What may be awesome to one person, may be crap to you. Even if a pair of 'phones got a great review, you may not like it at all! I say this again, the best thing you can do is find an audiophile store near you and try out the best 'phones available. Then take a step back, look at your 50$ and try on a pair of Koss Porta Pros.

Make sure the 'phones are comfortable. If they hurt your head, they suck. They could sound the best, but what good are they if you cant wear them for more than 30 minutes? This applies to earbuds. Personally, no earbud stays in my ears. Also, in-ear style is uncomfortable for me. These are points you are going to have to solve for yourself.

If you want to block out noise, Sony fontopia 71 as mentioned eariler does the job. Just make sure they are comfy for you. The 150$ noise reduction version sux. Dont get it.
Also, Anandtech likes teh apple in ears - if those interest you.

If you want better music quality, look towards koss as Koss doesnt break the bank. (Koss PortaPro is what im really talking about. They fold up as well)

koss>senn? LOL!!!
 

dc

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so i wake up and continue reading this thread.
lol at the hijack. :)
 

Hav0k99

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Originally posted by: dc
so i wake up and continue reading this thread.
lol at the hijack. :)

no no, no hijack just kiddies having no other place to play at.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Hav0k99
Originally posted by: dc
so i wake up and continue reading this thread.
lol at the hijack. :)

no no, no hijack just kiddies having no other place to play at.

That's not true, it just is the most convenient place. I don't like reading new threads, so I pick an existing one to crap in. It's like looking for a public restroom when you know where one is already.
 

Imyourzero

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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Sennheiser sucks!!!
I've had their earphones before and they are not the best.. I like Sony over Sennheiser, and of course Grado..

Grado's IMHO are the "best." Their headphone wiring is superior to any other companies. Beyer makes quality products as well.

IMO
Grado>Beyer>Koss>Sennheiser>Bose...

Dunno why the Ipod vs all comparison is creating so much attn in a headphone thread.

OP: headphones are a very personal thing. What may be awesome to one person, may be crap to you. Even if a pair of 'phones got a great review, you may not like it at all! I say this again, the best thing you can do is find an audiophile store near you and try out the best 'phones available. Then take a step back, look at your 50$ and try on a pair of Koss Porta Pros.

Make sure the 'phones are comfortable. If they hurt your head, they suck. They could sound the best, but what good are they if you cant wear them for more than 30 minutes? This applies to earbuds. Personally, no earbud stays in my ears. Also, in-ear style is uncomfortable for me. These are points you are going to have to solve for yourself.

If you want to block out noise, Sony fontopia 71 as mentioned eariler does the job. Just make sure they are comfy for you. The 150$ noise reduction version sux. Dont get it.
Also, Anandtech likes teh apple in ears - if those interest you.

If you want better music quality, look towards koss as Koss doesnt break the bank. (Koss PortaPro is what im really talking about. They fold up as well)

koss>senn? LOL!!!

No kidding. Koss makes some pretty good sounding stuff if you're on a budget, but there's no way that anything they make is going to stand up to Sennheiser's higher end stuff. I'll admit that not everything Sennheiser makes is absolutely fantastic--they make great and not-so-great headphones--but they do make a lot of products that would leave Koss far behind in the battle for great sound. The HD 580, 600, and 650 are three examples of why "Koss > Sennheiser" is not true!