Best Cpu for the Money *POLL*

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
yea i am surprised at all the q6600 votes, what do they excel in that is multi threaded??

Any kind of number crunching. Distributed computing "Folding@Home" "SETI" ect.. popular around here and several members like MarkFW has a farm of distributed computing machines. Quads are also put to use in video encoding and graphics rendering. Most of the modern apps used in scientific research, engineering, graphics design, ect.. benifiet from a quad.

 

[dr4gon]

depends what your doing really.... if you want (like) to overclock then an e2xxx would be very fun to mess with and be less than 1/4 the cost of a q6600. That said what do you intend to do with the cpu power? If your folding, it might be worht it to get 4 e2160/80 and overclock them to 3.0+ and have them fold SMP 24/7 which would most likely outrun a q6600 by quite a bit. If your gaming, then you might just want to get a q6600 for all the features, cache, etc for your money

 

[Tempered81]

i think an 8xxx card will slaughter a q6600 in gaming. even at the q6600's highest air OC. you may get 3.8ghz, while with a 8xxx you may get 4.8ghz

 

[lopri]

E2140 for $60, E2160 for $80 get my votes. I personally 'downgraded' from quads to duals.. yeah quads are great for folks who actually use them but I guess I'm not too much of a multi-tasker. I couldn't stand the noise and heat at the same time staring at the Task Manager showing CPU usage 0% half the time..

With E2140/E2160 you have a very good chance of 100% OC. 2 out of 3 I had did 100% and more. (with stock HSF, mind you) You don't even have to buy an after-market HSF! Every benchmark I tried showed equal numbers at E6600 @3.60GHz. Only when things are messy (especially under Vista) or gaming with background apps, E6600 felt faster. I am not discounting the importance of L2. But considering that you generally pay 2~3 times more, I should say these E2xx0 chips are the best bang for the bucks. (Except for F@H folks and encoding folks)

 

[abs0lut3]

for me, $60 e2140 from microcenter is the best bang for the buck. Second best would be my e4500 combo from Fry's which equate to 85 for CPU only. Oh n btw, both CPU are retail boxes

 

[Tempered81]

welp, quad wins, but i bet after 8400 releases it will change ATer's opinions

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
i think an 8xxx card will slaughter a q6600 in gaming. even at the q6600's highest air OC. you may get 3.8ghz, while with a 8xxx you may get 4.8ghz

*sigh*

I have no comment for this at all..... Even your OC predictions are all completely wrong.

2 vs 4 cores... yeah thats real fair comparing.

the Q9xxxx are the quadcores. Dualcores are a thing of the past... Why buy a dualcore now when a quadcore is less then 30-40 dollars more expensive. Unless your going full ball budget system where every last dollar counts.

 

[lopri]

Once E8400 comes out and its price stabilizes, I think there will be only 3 choices that'll make sense and this poll shows it well.

Budget overclocking/gaming: E2140/E2160 (E2180 and above are not really worth the price, IMO)
Mid-level overclocking/gaming: E8400 (Honorable mention: E4600 - for the sake of its x12 multi)
High-level overclocking/gaming: Q6600 (could change how Penryn prices pan out)

I don't see anything wrong with all 3 options. It's ultimately up to the user's usage and desire.

Sadly, with the latest E2xx0 class CPU's overclocking potential, I can no longer justify any AMD build. An only exception would be 690G build which does not require a discrete GPU. This could also change once NV's new chipsets roll out. Their current offerings suck eggs. (GeForce71x0 series)

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace
i think an 8xxx card will slaughter a q6600 in gaming. even at the q6600's highest air OC. you may get 3.8ghz, while with a 8xxx you may get 4.8ghz

*sigh*

I have no comment for this at all..... Even your OC predictions are all completely wrong.

2 vs 4 cores... yeah thats real fair comparing.

the Q9xxxx are the quadcores. Dualcores are a thing of the past... Why buy a dualcore now when a quadcore is less then 30-40 dollars more expensive. Unless your going full ball budget system where every last dollar counts.

nice how you said you have no comment, and then proceed to comment. We'll see how your 3.7ghz quad benches against a 4.6ghz wolfdale

comment back in early February, make sure to say, "i have no comment at all" before you do

 

[zeroburrito]

there is no way you cannot vote for the e2x. just no way. 60 bucks for almost same performance(gaming) as the most expensive cpu availiable for fractions of the price. cache smache. who runs winrar more than 20 mins a month.

 

[quackerww]

I still like the 6400+ X2 Call me an AMD Lover.

 

[tallman45]

Best bang for the buck at what ??

Power consumption / cpu processing cycles or Ghz?

Heat generated / cpu processing cycles or Ghz ?

Amount of L2 cache per processor

Best overclocling, you have to consider MB Bios upgrading as well in your $$ calcs since some of these Intels will not run on some NB chipsets without that

Hard to include products that are not available yet

AMD X2 could very well easily win you poll hands down if your best bang for the buck, "ease of upgrading a 939 or AM2 single core to a Dual core system" No brainer there, no new Mb to buy, no OS to reinstall, no apps to reinstall, done in 10 minutes

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jaredpace

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace
i think an 8xxx card will slaughter a q6600 in gaming. even at the q6600's highest air OC. you may get 3.8ghz, while with a 8xxx you may get 4.8ghz

*sigh*

I have no comment for this at all..... Even your OC predictions are all completely wrong.

2 vs 4 cores... yeah thats real fair comparing.

the Q9xxxx are the quadcores. Dualcores are a thing of the past... Why buy a dualcore now when a quadcore is less then 30-40 dollars more expensive. Unless your going full ball budget system where every last dollar counts.

nice how you said you have no comment, and then proceed to comment. We'll see how your 3.7ghz quad benches against a 4.6ghz wolfdale

comment back in early February, make sure to say, "i have no comment at all" before you do

the reason i said theres no comment in your selection is because your OC predictions are all wrong. hence why i have no comment.

Show me a Q6600 on 3.8ghz on AIR thats not a suicide run. Also If you wanna play the who can get a high oc game..

sorry, unless you have one of these in your arsenal, i'll kill you on any chip.
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0721.jpg

Also i should mention, your talking to a person who planned out a 10g skulltrail rig, but decided not to go with it at the last min.

People like me dont even look at wolfdale, we look at the yorkies and skulltrail.

But okey.... i'll see if you in feb when i also get my QX9650(ES) and see how well your wolfdale does against that on my watersetup, and i'll comment to you again with "no comment"

 

[The-Noid]

E8400 offers the best price/performance when overclocked of any chip in my lifetime.

QX9650ES < QX9650 < QX9770ES.

All the very good air/water overclocking ES went to 9770.

Easier for the top guys to bin out QX9650ES as you can get them in 100 packs if you know the right people, and do enough business.

Impossible to get 100 pc's QX9650 Retail without paying for them.

 

[The-Noid]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace
i think an 8xxx card will slaughter a q6600 in gaming. even at the q6600's highest air OC. you may get 3.8ghz, while with a 8xxx you may get 4.8ghz

*sigh*

I have no comment for this at all..... Even your OC predictions are all completely wrong.

2 vs 4 cores... yeah thats real fair comparing.

the Q9xxxx are the quadcores. Dualcores are a thing of the past... Why buy a dualcore now when a quadcore is less then 30-40 dollars more expensive. Unless your going full ball budget system where every last dollar counts.

nice how you said you have no comment, and then proceed to comment. We'll see how your 3.7ghz quad benches against a 4.6ghz wolfdale

comment back in early February, make sure to say, "i have no comment at all" before you do

the reason i said theres no comment in your selection is because your OC predictions are all wrong. hence why i have no comment.

Show me a Q6600 on 3.8ghz on AIR thats not a suicide run. Also If you wanna play the who can get a high oc game..

sorry, unless you have one of these in your arsenal, i'll kill you on any chip.
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0721.jpg

Also i should mention, your talking to a person who planned out a 10g skulltrail rig, but decided not to go with it at the last min.

People like me dont even look at wolfdale, we look at the yorkies and skulltrail.

But okey.... i'll see if you in feb when i also get my QX9650(ES) and see how well your wolfdale does against that on my watersetup, and i'll comment to you again with "no comment"

Don't turn things into a fight. Both are good chips.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
E8400 offers the best price/performance when overclocked of any chip in my lifetime.

QX9650ES < QX9650 < QX9770ES.

All the very good air/water overclocking ES went to 9770.

Easier for the top guys to bin out QX9650ES as you can get them in 100 packs if you know the right people, and do enough business.

Impossible to get 100 pc's QX9650 Retail without paying for them.

i have a very good ES coming my way soon direct from china. :T

Why the hell are all the great ES chips in china???

Originally posted by: Yoxxy

FYI that sounds very arrogant.

Those who do, do, those who don't talk about how they didn't and could have.

i wouldnt of said that comment if he left my comment on his OC predictions. But he went and tried to play the OC game with me.

Sorry i still havent grown out of that stage yet. :T

And Yoxxy you out of all people know i can.



EDIT: Okey let me clearify....
The wolfdale CPU is a good budget CPU. The person who i drected the comment at has his original OC Predictions completely wrong. Those OC predictions are mostly suicide runs at insane voltages.

Now the new 45nm die processes have shown not to take the same stress voltage as 65nm. Im also hearing people on XS burning the Q9650's out by pushing 1.6V+ on them while on phase.

Now even if you had a E8xxx chip and you pushed it to 4.6ghz, that kind of setup would require at least 400-500 dollars in cooling options. That NO LONGER is considered the best cpu for the money. Add 400-500 dollars and you can get probably a better chip that does a little less but isnt a suicide run then your E8XXX.

This is why i said i have no comment... so, no, unless your phasing, [And if you are, then OK] the E8xxx chip WONT do 4.6ghz like you say unless you want to replace it every 3-5months.


Is that better for ya Yoxxy?


Also if you look at yoxxy's sig under his E8500ES where he does have an insane OC, it says Vapoli. AKA, a Jinu made phase system.

So unless your running one of those, and trying to reproduce his OC. Good luck. Chips OC beter at lower voltages when pushed at negitave degree temps.

 

[The-Noid]

Because China/Taiwan has motherboard manufacturers who get chips by the 100's.

If you can request an ES tray chances are you can bin out at least 1 or 2 extremely good chips out of 100.

 

[Xatrix]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace
i think an 8xxx card will slaughter a q6600 in gaming. even at the q6600's highest air OC. you may get 3.8ghz, while with a 8xxx you may get 4.8ghz

*sigh*

I have no comment for this at all..... Even your OC predictions are all completely wrong.

2 vs 4 cores... yeah thats real fair comparing.

the Q9xxxx are the quadcores. Dualcores are a thing of the past... Why buy a dualcore now when a quadcore is less then 30-40 dollars more expensive. Unless your going full ball budget system where every last dollar counts.

Because almost nothing fully utilizes all 4 cores...

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Xatrix

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace
i think an 8xxx card will slaughter a q6600 in gaming. even at the q6600's highest air OC. you may get 3.8ghz, while with a 8xxx you may get 4.8ghz

*sigh*

I have no comment for this at all..... Even your OC predictions are all completely wrong.

2 vs 4 cores... yeah thats real fair comparing.

the Q9xxxx are the quadcores. Dualcores are a thing of the past... Why buy a dualcore now when a quadcore is less then 30-40 dollars more expensive. Unless your going full ball budget system where every last dollar counts.

Because almost nothing fully utilizes all 4 cores...

Many things do. One I use all the time is F@H. Many cad and encoding programs do, don't even get me started, but that is totally wrong.

 

[Tempered81]

if you like to help understand protiens, do synthetic benchmarks or encode divx's Quad core is the way to go.

 

[Xatrix]

But if you like to play video games, quad core is a waste, at the moment.

 

[Tempered81]

agreed
especially since its more difficult to overclock them higher when compared to dual cores.

edit: for games - there is supreme commander which takes advantage of 3 or more cores. but i've never played it

 

[aiya24]

i voted for E2xxx strictly based on price since i'm more of a value conscience consumer. call me old school, but i like buying the low end stuff and overclocking the shit out of them. makes you feel good that you can get close to highend performance without breaking the bank.

 

[Tempered81]

aiya, did you see if you could reach 3ghz before you put the thermalright ultra 90 on there... could have saved you even more $, assuming you didn't already have the cooler.

Edit: ohh! and the e2xxx chips barely usurp the speculation of greatness behind the e8xxx, however, most still prefer the quad setups!

 

[VirtualLarry]

Best CPU for the money is a toss-up between the E2140 @ 3.2Ghz for $60, or the Q6600 G0 @ 3.2Ghz for $265. The E2140 is more economical, but who can argue with the power of a quad-core?
I couldn't afford a quad-core just yet, so I build two E2140 rigs instead. I'm getting better results in Seventeenorbust with two rigs than I would with a quad-core, but it's costing a little more in terms of power.