Best CPU for my current MB?

clarkey01

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HI all


I just need some advice on which CPU will suit my motherboard best ( Yeah I spose I could of posted this in the MB section)

My board supports 1333 FSB, but if I am overclocking , will that stop me ?

I was thinking maybe get a q6600 and OC it to 2.8 Ghz ? or get a E8500/8400 and OC to 3.6 Ghz.

Will my board be able to support that ?

Do I gain any advantage getting the 8500 over the 8400?

Cheers Guys :beer:
 

DSF

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Is this going into the rig in your sig? What's wrong with the E6600 at 3GHz? That's a pretty speedy chip.
 

dakels

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Originally posted by: DSF
Is this going into the rig in your sig? What's wrong with the E6600 at 3GHz? That's a pretty speedy chip.

I'd have to 2nd that. Maybe if you need quad cores for some very specific render style process, or plan on running a 4ghz OC Wolfdale... I'm not sure how much real world performance you expect to gain from that upgrade with modest OC.

As far as I know your MB (in your sig) should have no problem pushing those modest OC's on those chips.

If you plan on OCing, E8500 has a generally a higher potential OC over the 8400. But 3.6 should be easy for either of them to hit.
 

RussianSensation

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If you got time to burn, get a Xigmatek S1283 $25 and push that E6600 to 3.6ghz.

If you got $ to burn, take your gf out or girlfriends ;)

If you don't have a gf, buy your mom something nice.
 

dakels

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Originally posted by: RussianSensation
If you don't have a gf, stop looking to spend money on unnecessary computer upgrades and visit the bunny ranch
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clarkey01

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Originally posted by: RussianSensation
If you got time to burn, get a Xigmatek S1283 $25 and push that E6600 to 3.6ghz.

If you got $ to burn, take your gf out or girlfriends ;)

If you don't have a gf, buy your mom something nice.

I already spent too much on her this month ( she wrote off her car so I've helped her out)

Would I not see much of a difference, even with a 600 Mhz jump on a E8500?

Maybe I'm falling into that group of people who get that warm, fuzzy feeling when they improve there set up by 10% who need to upgrade every 6 months!

Seriously though are there any issues you can forsea with buying any of these chips for my current MB?

Im thinking maybe 6600 @ 2.8 Ghz or a E8500 @ 3.6ghz, whats the performance increase from what I have ?
 

DSF

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Well you haven't told us what you do with the computer, so it's impossible to say. For most applications a Q6600 @ 2.8 would actually be a downgrade from what you have now. For a lot of applications you wouldn't see any benefit from the E8500 either, since your E6600 is fast enough for most things.

What's driving the upgrade? In other words, what's running too slowly for you?
 

clarkey01

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Originally posted by: DSF
Well you haven't told us what you do with the computer, so it's impossible to say. For most applications a Q6600 @ 2.8 would actually be a downgrade from what you have now. For a lot of applications you wouldn't see any benefit from the E8500 either, since your E6600 is fast enough for most things.

What's driving the upgrade? In other words, what's running too slowly for you?

I suppose your asking very logical questions...


Im going back to my final year of university and I wont be able to upgrade for a good two years, I game and do alot of vmware testing, hence I thought maybe a quad would be good news.

I have about £200 to spend on an upgrade, I was thinking maybe CPU then this tim enext year a GPU upgrade ?
 

DSF

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Need, not time, should drive computer upgrades. Computers aren't investments, as components depreciate in value quickly. Whatever you're paying 200 pounds for now will be 100 pounds in six months because something new will have taken its place. Buy the best you can where there's a need to upgrade. When there's not a need, hold onto your money so you get the most out of it.

In other words, put that 200 in the bank and earmark it for an upgrade. When the time rolls around for a needed upgrade, get the best you can afford.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: clarkey01
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
If you got time to burn, get a Xigmatek S1283 $25 and push that E6600 to 3.6ghz.

If you got $ to burn, take your gf out or girlfriends ;)

If you don't have a gf, buy your mom something nice.

I already spent too much on her this month ( she wrote off her car so I've helped her out)

Would I not see much of a difference, even with a 600 Mhz jump on a E8500?

Maybe I'm falling into that group of people who get that warm, fuzzy feeling when they improve there set up by 10% who need to upgrade every 6 months!

Seriously though are there any issues you can forsea with buying any of these chips for my current MB?

Im thinking maybe 6600 @ 2.8 Ghz or a E8500 @ 3.6ghz, whats the performance increase from what I have ?

Honestly unless you encode, youll see very little difference. If youre encoding then you'll see a decent reduction in time.

Maybe a 15% boost in games (not noticable) if you combine the extra cache and clockspeed, and thats only in games where you're CPU limited anyway.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: DSF
Need, not time, should drive computer upgrades. Computers aren't investments, as components depreciate in value quickly. Whatever you're paying 200 pounds for now will be 100 pounds in six months because something new will have taken its place. Buy the best you can where there's a need to upgrade. When there's not a need, hold onto your money so you get the most out of it.

In other words, put that 200 in the bank and earmark it for an upgrade. When the time rolls around for a needed upgrade, get the best you can afford.

I learned this lesson the hard way.

A few years back i would buy the latest and greatest all the time and wasted a fortune on hardware.

Now ive learned to upgrade to the best bang for your buck at the time and avoid those small incremental upgrades that dont really benefit you all that much.
 

RussianSensation

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: DSF
Need, not time, should drive computer upgrades.

I learned this lesson the hard way.

A few years back i would buy the latest and greatest all the time and wasted a fortune on hardware.

Now ive learned to upgrade to the best bang for your buck at the time and avoid those small incremental upgrades that dont really benefit you all that much.

hehe. I've tried to follow my rule of upgrading the CPU when performance would double:

XP1600+ 1.4ghz (2001)
P4 2.6 HT @ 3.2ghz (2003)
E6400 2.13 @ 3.4ghz (2006)
Q6600 2.4 @ 3.4ghz (2007) <-- the only reason I upgraded to this one was because it cost me only $200 in 2007 for 8800GTS + Q6600 (or $100 each). Frankly C2D @ 3.4ghz is still flying unless I do DivX / MKV video encoding.

But part of my reasoning was that I never wanted to be disappointed and I feel that 20-30% cpu speed boost might not be enough to warrant the spending.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: DSF
Need, not time, should drive computer upgrades.

I learned this lesson the hard way.

A few years back i would buy the latest and greatest all the time and wasted a fortune on hardware.

Now ive learned to upgrade to the best bang for your buck at the time and avoid those small incremental upgrades that dont really benefit you all that much.

hehe. I've tried to follow my rule of upgrading the CPU when performance would double:

XP1600+ 1.4ghz (2001)
P4 2.6 HT @ 3.2ghz (2003)
E6400 2.13 @ 3.4ghz (2006)
Q6600 2.4 @ 3.4ghz (2007) <-- the only reason I upgraded to this one was because it cost me only $200 in 2007 for 8800GTS + Q6600 (or $100 each). Frankly C2D @ 3.4ghz is still flying unless I do DivX / MKV video encoding.

But part of my reasoning was that I never wanted to be disappointed and I feel that 20-30% cpu speed boost might not be enough to warrant the spending.

P3 550 @ 733
P3 700 @ 933
P4A 1.8@ 2.4
P4B 2.4 @ 2.65
P4C 2.4 @ 3.2
A64 3000+ Venice @ 2.7
C2D E4300 @ 3.2
C2Q X3220 @ 3.85

I need to follow your rule.
You have much to teach us.
 

OCChronic

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Wait until the E8600's come out in about 4 weeks and look for a used 8500. It has the new radix engine, SSE 4.1, a bigger & better L2 CACHE design, and runs a lot cooler than the previous quad cores like the Q6600 & Q6700. You just need a newer mainboard if you plan to do some serious overclocking.
 

RussianSensation

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Originally posted by: Acanthus

I need to follow your rule.
You have much to teach us.

Of course if you can sell your current OCed parts for a decent amount to offset most of the upgrading costs, then you can upgrade more frequently. But with Nehalem, DDR3 4GB still costs a lot of $ for now.