BEST CPU FAN??????

[MrDudeMan]

what is the absolute best fan and heatsink combination to have on a socket A duron OCed to 1GHz?


Thanks

 

[bonkers325]

alpha pal 6035+delta
if u dont mind the noise

 

[MrDudeMan]

where would i go about getting one of these? also, i have a pro2-a, will it fit? the last heatsink i bought didnt even fit on my board. i really need a heatsink and fan that do the absolute best job...what are the stats on the alpha pal 6035+ delta compared to the new hedgehog? and how does the super orb rank compared to these two?


Thanks

 

[MrDudeMan]

ttt

 

[lilstevo]

mrdude id say hedgehog, alpha, superorb in order of better cooler.

 

[ChipNOW]

Hedgehog - mmmmm...... meaty.
That's a seriously good HSF

 

[tjdavis1138]

Anybody seen a Hedgehog cheaper than $45?

 

[TELeast]

Well, I use a Hedgehog with Delta fan. According to some reviews, the Hedgehog is better, according to others, the Alpha PAL 6065 is better.

Without a Masters degree in Materials Engineering and Thermodynamics, I think that it all depends on case temperature, ambient temperature and humidity as well as air pressure. Remember your Physics and Chemistry class? Different materials have different chemical and physical behavior. Now why would you get different results in different reviews between the two heatsinks? But never another heatsink taking the top 2 spots...

So conclusion is that both heatsinks are top performers and becoz the material is different at the contact point between metal and air, you get different results.

Now...I got my Hedgehog and Delta fan together for US$43.5 Before you ask me which place I got it from...I got it in Hong Kong

 

[Dantzig]

If want good performance and want to save some $$$ over the Alpha and Hedgehog, the GolbalWin FOP38 may be a good choice for you. Sidewinder Computers is selling them for $22.00 + $.35 shipping which is the cheapest price I've ever seen The FOP38 gives better performance than an Alpha if it is equipped with the Delta Black Label fan and the Alpha with a YS Tech or other lower RPM fan. The Hedgehog is the absolute best from what I've read though. However, it is very fragile (copper bends / dents easily) and requires that you lap the bottom of it before using it.

 

[Tachyon]

Dudeman,
The Alpha fits fine on the 2A board so no worries there.

 

[MrDudeMan]

thanks guys...i ended up getting an alpha pal6035 w/ delta. i read all the reviews for the hedgehog and the alpha, but what it came down to is "economics." i didnt have 45 dollars, i had 36 hehe.

Thanks again

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Just don't get the orb(s) if you want a good cooler.. .


Orb, Globalwin, Taisol tests: Internal Diode versus Socket-Thermsitor.


Mike

 

[scaryjeff]

agreed. orbs are pants compared to proper hsf s.

 

[MrDudeMan]

well would an orb be a good choice to put on the chipset? because ive been told the blorb will do a little better at cooling than the original heatsink will (pro2-a)

 

[Mindlink]

According to specs (and numerous boards without northbridge coolers), there is no need for a cooler on the chipset. Besides, the VIA northbridge is not capable of more than a few extra stable MHz regardless of cooling, so milage (and faith in cooling) varies with individual chips and owners.

If you insist, then yes it probably will, because even the companies that put a fan on the NB put the cheap stuff there. On the flip side, the blue orb is not (as far as I know) designed for the job, so you might have to mod the clips to fit. Also, the original fan generally isn't easy to get off, and there is some danger of scratching the mobo while getting off the clips. So do this at your own risk, and only if you really feel that is necessary.

Hope this helps.

 

[MrDudeMan]

cool..thanks for the info. what do you suggest i put there instead? i am going to be running a pretty hot(hot as in high temps lol) system, and the way i figured it was...the more cooling the better. but, if you say it doesnt help all that much, then i might reconsider.

also, does the RAM get hot after its been on for a while? do memory-sinks make a big difference? and what about on the voodoo5? in the cooling kit for the v5, it comes with 20x30mm mem-sinks to stick on there...does that help?

i was planning on getting a blorb for the chipset and mem sinks for my v5, but i am curious to know if those actually make a bit of difference.

Thanks

 

[Mindlink]

Well, if the board (what board is it, BTW?) doesn't come with something on it (at least a heat sink), I guess you can epoxy on the blorb. But most good boards have passive cooling, and according to reviews that's enough. When I said it did not need cooling, I meant active cooling. Despite everything, the NB does run at 100M, so some passive cooling makes me feel better (regardless of specs).

Ram sinks on the system dimms are a liability because they make the dimms harder to remove and easier to damage. If you want to FSB-OC than try Kingmax PC150 dimms (reasonably priced at PCBoost). It is generally a much better idea to ventilate the case and reduce overall mobo temps.

For the V5 it couldn't hurt to have the ram sinks, specially if you plan to OC the card. However, the VSA100's are built using the 0.25 micron process last I heard, so don't count on a big boost for the voided warranty. If you haven't bought it yet, go to Sharky Extreme's High End Shootout and checck out the image qualities of the GeForce2 GTS and Radeon, which both perform better on newer systems than V5's.

I used to be a loyal 3dfx fan, but the VSA100 architecture is behind the times. I eagerly await the specs on the Rampage, but till then it's GTS for me.

Sorry if I am giving unwanted advise

Regards.

 

[MrDudeMan]

dont say sorry, you are the man! i am learning a lot from your posts. my v5 performs very well on my duron 800, and i plan on OCing the duron pretty soon (when i get my alpha pal that is). i will probably oc the v5 as soon as i buy some mem-sinks for it. i know you just said that the NB is fine with passive cooling, but i dunno if anyone actually answered my first question. would it actually help to have a blorb on it?

Thanks.
p.s. its a K7T Pro2-A

 

[rarebear]

The Hedgehog has to be better that the Alpha..
Copper conducts heat twice as fast as Aluminum

Copper 402 ???

Aluminum 220 somthings

So copper pulls the heat faster and the design and stlye are both the same..

 

[Mindlink]

Well, the short answer is: IMHO, no.

It will take immense luck to have a NB that can get to 110 stably (due to internal timing issues), so there is no need and it won't help. It's simply better to overclock with the multiplier, because the VIA chips don't take FSB overclocking well as documented in every OC guide ever on athlons/durons.

That's the humble but definitive 2 cents from me.

Regards.