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Best Bush Photo of Olympics

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: txrandom
The Army patch has the flag faced that way...

That's what I was going to say... I don't understand what the big deal is.

It's not a big deal at all, it's just funny. He was holding it wrong. http://www.marlowwhite.com/faq...ag-patch-reversed.html

Meh...

MUCH better Bush Olympic photo... 😀
Watch your hands Mr President!

I like this one
 
Originally posted by: blinky8225
You have to admit that while Bush may not best president, he'd probably be a cool guy with whom to hang out.

So he's a good drinking buddy? I could see that...
 
Originally posted by: blinky8225
You have to admit that while Bush may not best president, he'd probably be a cool guy with whom to hang out.

Unfortunately, that seems to be the extent of the logic of the American people...

Sigh.
 
I don't see anything wrong with it.

So most of you are saying that when you stand on the opposite side of the American Flag, it has less meaning and is wrong?

I can see if he held it upside down....... Now that would be funny :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: TallBill
Its not backwards you fucking morons. There are two sides.

There is a proper way to display the flag, and he's doing it wrong.


Nope, nothing wrong with the way he's holding it. As TallBill said in the post above, there are two sides to the flag!
Bush Bashers would love to think it's wrong, but it's not :roll:






 
Originally posted by: CorCentral
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: TallBill
Its not backwards you fucking morons. There are two sides.

There is a proper way to display the flag, and he's doing it wrong.


Nope, nothing wrong with the way he's holding it. As TallBill said in the post above, there are two sides to the flag!
Bush Bashers would love to think it's wrong, but it's not :roll:

I already posted a link in this thread that explained the proper way to display the flag. I'm not bashing Bush at all, I also said in this thread it's not a big deal at all, it's just funny.

Here's another link for you:
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html

When the flag is displayed in a manner other than by being flown from a staff, it should be displayed flat, whether indoors or out. When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left.

But there's no reason you should let the facts interfere with your partisanship.
 
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm

United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1, section 7

§7. Position and manner of display

The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag's own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line.

The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i) of this section.

The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.

No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.

The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.

The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.

When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag's right.
When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building.

When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.

When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street.

When used on a speaker's platform, the flag, if displayed flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag of the United States of America should hold the position of superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the position of honor at the clergyman's or speaker's right as he faces the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience.

The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the covering for the statue or monument.

The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, or the death of a member of the Armed Forces from any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving on active duty, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff, and the same authority is provided to the Mayor of the District of Columbia with respect to present or former officials of the District of Columbia and members of the Armed Forces from the District of Columbia. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection ?
the term "half-staff" means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;
the term "executive or military department" means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and
the term "Member of Congress" means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico.

When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder. The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch the ground.

When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended vertically with the union of the flag to the observer's left upon entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south. If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union should be to the east.


You fail Mugs. There is nothing in the actual US code that says anything about displaying a flag in your hands and which way the union should face, except that it shouldn't face down except in time of distress.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
When the flag is displayed in a manner other than by being flown from a staff, it should be displayed flat, whether indoors or out. When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left.

But there's no reason you should let the facts interfere with your partisanship.


Well, there were a bunch of observers behind him that the flag was being displayed correctly for. It's a matter of perspective.
 
Tallbill - OMG it doesn't mention about holding in your hands??? BFD. It mentions about how it should be if it's on a street or in a hallway that an observer is entering, or a wall. I think you have the intelligence to extrapolate to how an observer (ie, athletes) should expect to view the flag held by someone in the stands. I think you fail.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill

You fail Mugs. There is nothing in the actual US code that says anything about displaying a flag in your hands and which way the union should face, except that it shouldn't face down except in time of distress.

Your toadyism is embarrassing, and as a GI you MUST know better. (Right? I was never a color guard guy but have raised, lowered and folded many flags. I find it hard to believe that any active duty member wouldn't know there is a right way to present a flag.) Hell, the proper way to exhibit a flag is right in the statute you cited:

When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.

Originally posted by: txrandom
The Army patch has the flag faced that way...

Only if it's on the right arm. The idea is that the union is always facing forward, as though the flag were being flown on a flagpole and dragging backwards. It's the same way on the tail of a plane, so if you are viewing the plane from the left side it's in the normal configuration, and reversed on the right side.
 
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