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Several hundered rounds is nothing. They had about 1500 - 2500 before they saw the problems I listed. The Tokyo Marui M9's that Maul mentioned have had about 10K rounds through them with NO problems. The USP and G26 are more for display than actually playing with. So for me they will last a long time.
Keep in mind that the TM M9's are not that much more cash than the Metal KJ guns, and the quality is much better.
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Are there any GBBs where you can have a mag with BBs instead of having to load them in the top? I know there are some CO2 guns that have the CO2 canister and a mag together in the handle. Pretty sweet.
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Damn, that's sweet! I always thought having a GBB would: 1, Look fake for not having a mag; 2, be counter-productive because loading BBs into the top is slow. But yeah, it gives me a totally new perspective on GBBs.
Hey there Metalloid -
I have two of those4 exact guns you are talking about - the KWC Desert Eagle is a great gun. I did some research before buying, but there's some things I couldn't have known without owning the gun that I'll tell you here. It shoots very far - I chrono'd mine at about 315 fps (on a hot day ~ 85 degrees F). The ehat outside made the gas expand a bit more so the gun chrono'd a bit higher than normal. I bet it would chrono at about 280 normally. There is a trick to the mag - if you push up on the mag while firing the slide will lock on the blowback. This is a simple design flaw, so don't worry about it if it happens, just remember to not push up on the mag. Overall, I love these guns. I bought the original from an airsoft shop in Hawaii called Full Auto Airsoft and my other one I got from Airsoft Zone.com arms deals. 120 for the first, 55 for the second. The second one was a great deal - came with a case and a sling plus full trademarks. I have nothing but good things to say about the KWC. It is not a high quality GBB like a KSC or even some select TM GBBs, but it fires nicely and there is nothing more intimidating in airsoft than a 6'7" guy running at you with dual desert eagles blazing 😀
My other gun, my baby, is a G3 SBS. It's a fully modified MC51 (G3 series gun) with a full SG/1 stock (9.6V battery) and a SD silenced barrel. I have a Blazer red dot scope, too. The internals were upgraded with new oilless bushings, tight bore barrel, and an m120 spring. Pumps it up to about 350 fps. I love this gun. It is so silent that people have told me they had no idea I was there until I fired and blew them away.
It's good to see an airsoft thread on here that, for a change, doesn't have some jackass coming in and screaming that paintball rules. Like the saying goes, "paintball is like expensive nerf, airsoft is like cheap war." 😀
I have two of those4 exact guns you are talking about - the KWC Desert Eagle is a great gun. I did some research before buying, but there's some things I couldn't have known without owning the gun that I'll tell you here. It shoots very far - I chrono'd mine at about 315 fps (on a hot day ~ 85 degrees F). The ehat outside made the gas expand a bit more so the gun chrono'd a bit higher than normal. I bet it would chrono at about 280 normally. There is a trick to the mag - if you push up on the mag while firing the slide will lock on the blowback. This is a simple design flaw, so don't worry about it if it happens, just remember to not push up on the mag. Overall, I love these guns. I bought the original from an airsoft shop in Hawaii called Full Auto Airsoft and my other one I got from Airsoft Zone.com arms deals. 120 for the first, 55 for the second. The second one was a great deal - came with a case and a sling plus full trademarks. I have nothing but good things to say about the KWC. It is not a high quality GBB like a KSC or even some select TM GBBs, but it fires nicely and there is nothing more intimidating in airsoft than a 6'7" guy running at you with dual desert eagles blazing 😀
My other gun, my baby, is a G3 SBS. It's a fully modified MC51 (G3 series gun) with a full SG/1 stock (9.6V battery) and a SD silenced barrel. I have a Blazer red dot scope, too. The internals were upgraded with new oilless bushings, tight bore barrel, and an m120 spring. Pumps it up to about 350 fps. I love this gun. It is so silent that people have told me they had no idea I was there until I fired and blew them away.
It's good to see an airsoft thread on here that, for a change, doesn't have some jackass coming in and screaming that paintball rules. Like the saying goes, "paintball is like expensive nerf, airsoft is like cheap war." 😀
Oh, and another two things I forgot to mention. One, whatever you do, stay away from EBBs. My friend bought one and it sucks majorly. He can shoot at you center chest from 10 yards away and the BB 1)cannot be felt, even with only a t-shirt being worn, and 2)aimed center chest from 10 yards it'll hit the target in the legs or feet. This is not an exaggeration, I have seen it myself. And it was using brand new batteries. EBB is worthless garbage. I'd much rather have a springer purchased from the sports section of Walmart.
Second, one of the best stores on the internet for airsoft equipment is DEN Trinity. My first gun came from here - a G3 SG/1 upgraded to 450 fps. The prices are low, but the shipping costs are high since they are located in Hong Kong. Overall they are very competitive price-wise with any of the US dealers. You may have problems with customs, though - some customs officials are retarded and don't realize they are not real guns. DEN is really good about getting your guns to you - I ordered my stuff on a Thursday night and had it Tuesday afternoon.
Second, one of the best stores on the internet for airsoft equipment is DEN Trinity. My first gun came from here - a G3 SG/1 upgraded to 450 fps. The prices are low, but the shipping costs are high since they are located in Hong Kong. Overall they are very competitive price-wise with any of the US dealers. You may have problems with customs, though - some customs officials are retarded and don't realize they are not real guns. DEN is really good about getting your guns to you - I ordered my stuff on a Thursday night and had it Tuesday afternoon.
Well I went ahead and bought the DE while it was still on sale. I saw it on ebay for $90 and people were bidding, so I figure even if I dont like Airsoft I can at least make a little money off of it. (Although I doubt that I won't like it, everyone I know says that it is awesome) I would like to thank all of you for your help. I would have never found this gun if Cadetlee had never mentioned www.plyconsarmy.com. I may be back in a few weeks to get recommendations on an AEG. I am thinking about the TM SD5 series. They are relativly inexpensive ($200 and up on www.redwolfairsoft.com), and they look like they will fit me nicely. Thanks everyone.
Cool. You'll be very happy with that gun. Remember, though, that AEGs are a lot easier to take care of, and a lot easier to play with. With the pistol, you are a single shot, close range, tactical machine, preferring to sneak up on an enemy and kill with hardly any sound - one shot should do. With an AEG, especially those with large magazine capacities, you can run across a field, spraying BBs everywhere. You can lay cover fire for your pistol users. It's a different role, so don't let it discourage you if you play with the pistol and don't win every time. 🙂
Speaking of playing, where are you located? If you are anywhere in the midwest, you should definitely come to the big event south of Kansas City in September. Visit Midwest Regional Airsoft Association for more details on Operation Autumn Thunder 2. There's teams all over the place - go to the Airsoft Zone forums to find a good team to play with in your area. You won't regret it.
I am in Michigan which is in the Midwest, but its a long drive to Kansas City. Also, I will be in school. (I am only going to be a Junior in HS.🙁 ) I dont think I will have any problems with playing against people with AEGs, because I am the guy from my paintball group who is buying the first Airsoft gun to try it. If we all think it sounds fun I will buy myself a nice TM MP5 or something. Any recommendations on good cheap AEG's you can give would be nice.
The words "good" and "cheap" rarely go together when talking about AEGs. Tokyo Marui is by far the best, but you pay for the best. Everyone I know who has bought any other brand AEG has had problems with his gun. One of my friends bought a Classic Army MP5A4, and he had it in the shop after every game - the motor overheated, the battery connection came loose, the loading mechanism broke, just endless problems. If you buy an AEG, spend the extra money and buy a TM version. The only upgrade I have to recommend is a tight-bore barrel - it is so worth it to have a much straighter shot. From that point, it's just what fells and loks good to you. MP5 series guns (K, PDW, A4, A5, SD5, SD6) are plentiful and you can probably get a good price on them. The hi capacity mags (hicaps) for the MP5 series are 200 capacity. Then you have the G3 series (my favorite), which are the MC51, SBS (custom), A3, A4, SG/1. The SG/1 is a huge gun (like a meter long), and a bit unweildy in the field. The hicaps for the G3 guns are 500. Then there's the Steyr Aug, a wierd looksing gun, but highly regarded as one of the best replicas and a great gun to fire and play with. Hicaps are 400. Then you've got you're M16 guns, Sigs, P90, various other AEGs which have their own merit, but I've never used so I can't tell you much. Once you get past AEGs then you have the sniper rifles - M40, APS2, PSG-1. Single-shot, high powered rifles, sometimes not allowed, or only allowed from certain distances and as single shot rifles. But you want an AEG....hope you're happy with your purchase, and if you have any questions about specific guns feel free to ask.
Ok wait a minute. Plycons Armory sent me an email saying that I need to sign and fax their waiver to them. It said that I need to check with laws and that they are not responsible for knowing if Airsoft is legal in my area. I live in Michigan, and I figured that there is no way that it is illegal b/c I know tons of people who play it, and I have even seen it for sale in local stores like Rocky's. But everywhere I looked online seems to say that it is illegal in New York, Michigan, and New Jersey. Is this true? Am I really gonna get screwed over like this and deprived of my fun?
I found a thread on airsoftzone's forums discuccing this very topic - legality of airsoft in Michgan. It seems that there is some conflicting information on that, as one guy got a "yes, illegal" from the state police office by phone, and another guy got a "no, not illegal" from the attorney general's office. It seems to be a misunderstanding of the law going on there at the state police office. Here's a simple synopsis from a well-informed Michgander who presented his argument to the Michgan attorney general's office:
His argument goes on to say that according to this statute, if paintball is legal, then airsoft must be also since the principles are the same. Paintball is legal since the materials for such are sold in Walmart, etc. so thus airsoft is legal. This was approved to him in a letter from the attorney general's office.
Summary: airsoft is legal in Michgan. Sign your waiver and get your gun, friend. 🙂
His argument goes on to say that according to this statute, if paintball is legal, then airsoft must be also since the principles are the same. Paintball is legal since the materials for such are sold in Walmart, etc. so thus airsoft is legal. This was approved to him in a letter from the attorney general's office.
Summary: airsoft is legal in Michgan. Sign your waiver and get your gun, friend. 🙂
No problem. 😀
If you don't screw around with the gun and draw attention to yourself from the police, then you won't have it seized. It is a knee-jerk reaction from police to just take a real-looking gun and figure out later if they should have done so or not. Just keep it in a case, unloaded, in your house, and if you have to take it anywhere make sure you leave it in the trunk unless you're at the playing field. A lot of people have called for an age limit for airsoft because young people have a tendency to be stupid with the guns and give the sport a bad name (has happened more than once). But since you're a paintballer, you know most of the rules anyway. Way to convert to airsoft. Welcome to the light side - we knew there was still some good left in you....😛
If you don't screw around with the gun and draw attention to yourself from the police, then you won't have it seized. It is a knee-jerk reaction from police to just take a real-looking gun and figure out later if they should have done so or not. Just keep it in a case, unloaded, in your house, and if you have to take it anywhere make sure you leave it in the trunk unless you're at the playing field. A lot of people have called for an age limit for airsoft because young people have a tendency to be stupid with the guns and give the sport a bad name (has happened more than once). But since you're a paintballer, you know most of the rules anyway. Way to convert to airsoft. Welcome to the light side - we knew there was still some good left in you....😛
Well great. I am getting an Airsoft gun, and now I will have two great fun shooting sports to play. (Lasertag is fun, but not nearly realistic enough) Hopefully it will be in by the end of the week! 🙂
Thanks everyone, I will let you know if I need help deciding on an AEG.
Thanks everyone, I will let you know if I need help deciding on an AEG.
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