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Best bang for buck gaming at 1920x1200?

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ioticus

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Thinking of going 8800 GT SLI for my new computer from Cyberpower. I want to game at 1920x1200 with high details and full AA/AF. I don't really like the idea of SLI but what else can I do? Do you think that would be the most cost effective choice right now? I've got the upgrade bug and don't want to wait for the new NVIDIA cards (fuck you NVIDIA!).
 
My Ultra handled everything at 1920x1200, 4xaa, 16xaf, with the exception of Crysis. COD4 was a bit choppy in some scenes, but dropping the af to 8x fixed it.
 
Originally posted by: yanquii
My Ultra handled everything at 1920x1200, 4xaa, 16xaf, with the exception of Crysis. COD4 was a bit choppy in some scenes, but dropping the af to 8x fixed it.
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Way to miss the OP's point.

I think 8800GTs in SLI or an 8800GTS 512MB OC'd would be best.
 
Originally posted by: Syntax Error
Originally posted by: yanquii
My Ultra handled everything at 1920x1200, 4xaa, 16xaf, with the exception of Crysis. COD4 was a bit choppy in some scenes, but dropping the af to 8x fixed it.
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Way to miss the OP's point.

I think 8800GTs in SLI or an 8800GTS 512MB OC'd would be best.
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point of reference, my friend. Ive never used dual gts or a new gts. Just giving my experience with the ultra, and anyone can see how it compares to the mentioned cards.

Hell, there is a gtx on these very forums selling for like $360.
 
At 1920x1200, the new G92s (either the 8800gt or the 8800gts) will suffer from their 256bit interface if you like AA and AF on. If you don't mind not having AA and AF at low settings, a single 8800gt will probably fit your needs. Two would be faster of course, but twice the price 😉. If you can find a single GTX for a nice low price like yanquii said, that would be your best bet for price/preformance IMO. Just make sure its ~350 or lower as two 8800GT's at around 500 would spank a GTX in most games. I wouldnt recommend the 8800GTS as its still bandwidth limited and would cost $70 more than a GT for a handful of fps on most games.
 
It's about $60 more expensive to get the GTX than the 2 GTs at Cyberpower so it wouldn't be worth it. For some reason they really jacked up the price of the GTX cards.
 
Why would you buy a card from Cyberpower? Just buy a card aftermarket and install it yourself...

If you're going to get a new desktop, you'll save money by buying your parts separately and installing it yourself anyways.
 
Originally posted by: Syntax Error
Why would you buy a card from Cyberpower? Just buy a card aftermarket and install it yourself...

If you're going to get a new desktop, you'll save money by buying your parts separately and installing it yourself anyways.
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But that's just it, I don't want to install anything myself. That's why I'm paying a vendor to do it.
 
Originally posted by: ioticus
Originally posted by: Syntax Error
Why would you buy a card from Cyberpower? Just buy a card aftermarket and install it yourself...

If you're going to get a new desktop, you'll save money by buying your parts separately and installing it yourself anyways.
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But that's just it, I don't want to install anything myself. That's why I'm paying a vendor to do it.
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Dude, its as simple as putting a card into a slot and installing a program.

Did you not play with legos as a child?
 
Originally posted by: yanquii
Originally posted by: ioticus
Originally posted by: Syntax Error
Why would you buy a card from Cyberpower? Just buy a card aftermarket and install it yourself...

If you're going to get a new desktop, you'll save money by buying your parts separately and installing it yourself anyways.
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But that's just it, I don't want to install anything myself. That's why I'm paying a vendor to do it.
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Dude, its as simple as putting a card into a slot and installing a program.

Did you not play with legos as a child?
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Yeah, I did. But I don't want to take a chance of voiding my warranty or breaking something.
 
You won't void any warranty and installation is easy as long as you know how to operate a screwdriver.

Do yourself a favor and toss this unfounded and overconcerned belief of voiding warranties, breaking components, or difficulty of installation by building your own computer.
 
Originally posted by: Syntax Error
You won't void any warranty and installation is easy as long as you know how to operate a screwdriver.

Do yourself a favor and toss this unfounded and overconcerned belief of voiding warranties, breaking components, or difficulty of installation by building your own computer.
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Hehe, I knew someone would bring that up, I'm just surprised it didn't happen sooner. I have no desire or inclination to build my own computer and will ignore all such suggestions
 
Yeah, I would build it myself too, with every single component that I chose .. As for the card, get a 8800GTX if you find a good deal.
 
Sli-ed 8800gt's are still going to suffer from lack of memory bandwith at higher resolutions, no matter how many you SLI, dual or tripple 😛 Your best bet is to a single 8800GT for now, from evga, and HOPEFULLY step it up to the next high-end card from Nvidia in 3 months. Since you're to lazy to build your own rig, and don't mind paying a premium for it, the costs shouldn't be to important.
 
Originally posted by: ioticus
Originally posted by: Syntax Error
You won't void any warranty and installation is easy as long as you know how to operate a screwdriver.

Do yourself a favor and toss this unfounded and overconcerned belief of voiding warranties, breaking components, or difficulty of installation by building your own computer.
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Hehe, I knew someone would bring that up, I'm just surprised it didn't happen sooner. I have no desire or inclination to build my own computer and will ignore all such suggestions
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In that case, can I build you a PC? I'll charge you $1500 + shipping for a nice OCed system inline with what Cyberscam will charge for a generic non-OCed system, and which will cost me about $900 tops in time/materials to build.
 
Hehe, I knew someone would bring that up, I'm just surprised it didn't happen sooner. I have no desire or inclination to build my own computer and will ignore all such suggestions
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I recently bought my first desktop from CyberPower too... (Previously, I only bought notebooks before) But I bought my 24" BENQ monitor and and an EVGA video card separately. I thought that if I bought EVGA video card from CyberPower... that I would not be eligible for setup program... but this is not the case.... Buying an EVGA video card from CyberPower makes you eligible for setup program.

Although some people say buying separetly is cheaper... Here are my thoughts on this topic.
1. CyberPower has very good prices...

2. Installing video card is not simple. Since I bought video card separately... installing video card was almost a night mare... Inintially, I attempted to install video card with MOBO attached to the case... This is very tricky to install... Video card was not sitting properly on the MOBO... I almost spent 1 hour and was about to call a computer tech to have it installed... but in the end I was able to seat it properly. No easy task !!
Weeks later I installed a different CPU cooler (didn't think their cpu coolers are good to OC a QX6850) and pretty much took everything out from MOBO to install cpu cooler... I thought... OK, I installed video card once... I can do it again... What a pain... I gave up installing video card when MOBO was screwed to case... I uninstalled MOBO from case and installed video card nicely with no problem... Now screwing screws back while video card was inserted was another headache and pain... I had to use alot of force to place screws in case.

3. Best buying from vendor. I don't say this because of warranty... You get warrant from individual components... I say buy from vendor for support. Although CyberPower support is not that good (they don't have 24 support as they suggest... They can be reached during normal business hours) but I recommend going this route... If you have a problem with your PC... you don't have to depend on forums to help with your problem...

The only thing I suggest when buying from CyberPower... Tell them to double-check their operating system. My first PC from them... Windows was not installed properly... due to hardware problem I RMA PC and replacement PC I've had no problems... When ordering replacement PC... I told them to double-check OS. Although they say they check OS... but from my experience they don't... I am quite happy now 🙂

4. I also considered SLI, but decided not... I also suggest going 8800ultra. The only game that I have trouble is of course Crysis. I can only play at High setting instead of very High. I'll wait until the new NVIDIA cards to come out next year to upgrade.

Hope this helps
 
Originally posted by: spike99
2. Installing video card is not simple. Since I bought video card separately... installing video card was almost a nightmare... I almost spent 1 hour and was about to call a computer tech to have it installed... but in the end I was able to seat it properly. No easy task !!
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Now thats funny. Thats like calling a mechanic to put your keys in the ignition or the fuel nozzle in your gas tank.
So you would pay bestbuy/circuit city $30 to install new RAM?
Though I think the OP is lazy or ____ for not 'daring' to build his own PC, it is his choice and his money. The 8800GT is still the way to go (& hope nvidia release a new beast in the next 90 days).
 
Let the fools be parted with their money. If they're not willing to "risk" building their own computer, then they should pay more for the computer.
 
Hey there!

I just have a couple questions.

I am wanting to get a new computer this half of 2008, when the next generation of CPUs/GPUs come out. The problem is, I would like to build it myself.

I know my way around a computer when it's booted up, however I'm not as confident about the insides of a tower. I know how to install HDDs, video cards, etc, but I haven't ever put in a mobo, cpu, PSU for example.

Now, the next problem is, I would like to move to water cooling in this next setup. I need something noiseless, and something that doesnt attract dust, as it's very dusty where I am.

I'm going to have about $3000 to spend on this, and would like to buy the parts individually like I said. Putting it together myself isn't necessary, but like I said- if I'm buying the individual parts I don't have much of a choice.

So, to get to my question now that you have some information:

If I follow instructions, take care, and all other things, will (should) I be able to put together a rig from scratch using water cooling, or will it be too risky?

If it's too risky, is there any place (I am in Canada), that will do it for you for a small charge? EG order from NCIX (Our newegg) and have it shipped to their location, install, and send back? Some place that is reliable, of course.

Thanks. This is to the guy mentioning voided warranties.
 
This forum's usually pretty polite, can we not bite the OP's head off for not wanting to add his own videocard? It's his money, let him do whatever he wants with it.

I should also add that some places do consider their warranty voided if you open the case and add a part, don't know about Cyberpower personally though.
 
Now thats funny. Thats like calling a mechanic to put your keys in the ignition or the fuel nozzle in your gas tank.
So you would pay bestbuy/circuit city $30 to install new RAM?
Though I think the OP is lazy or stupid for not 'daring' to build his own PC, it is his choice and his money. The 8800GT is still the way to go (& hope nvidia release a new beast in the next 90 days).
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LOL, did you even read what I said and how much time I spent installing the damn video card ? I don't know why it was so hard for me... Maybe the case made it hard to install... don't know...

Another thing... No, its not like paying bestbuy/circuit city paying $30 to install it. As you may not know... Vendors get better prices than you going to bestbuy/circuit city. If you go to CyberPower... they charge $594 for an EVGA 8800 Ultra. Pls check the price on your local bestbuy/circuit city or any reputable website... for an 8800 ultra. Check back with me on how much they charge you... You will find that Cyberpower is cheaper.
 
You guys need to simmer down....his cash, his prerogative. We all know that you can get more for your dollar if you build yourself, but that isn't your decision.

As stated the 8800GTX will be your best bet at that resolution if you can find one in the 360ish range. Although just as bandwidth limited, you may see marginally better performance (and better resale down the road) if you pick up two 256MB 8800GT's for around 190ish each.
 
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