Best Ati card for 1920x1200 under $200?

[OCGuy]

Dont expect to actually use DX11 with any of those cards if you like to turn up other eye candy.

I have to force DX9 in BF:BC2 on a 5850 @1080p.

 

[toyota]

Dont expect to actually use DX11 with any of those cards if you like to turn up other eye candy.

I have to force DX9 in BF:BC2 on a 5850 @1080p.

I hate to break it to you but that is the partly the fault of your dual core cpu. BC 2 is much easier on cpus in DX10 and especially DX9 compared DX11.

 

[Skurge]

Dont expect to actually use DX11 with any of those cards if you like to turn up other eye candy.

I have to force DX9 in BF:BC2 on a 5850 @1080p.

You sure that isn't a 5650 or something? I know that 6 can look like an 8 on the box.

 

[Teizo]

Dont expect to actually use DX11 with any of those cards if you like to turn up other eye candy.

I have to force DX9 in BF:BC2 on a 5850 @1080p.

I run BFBC2 @ 8xAA and 16xAF all settings maxed with around 40-50fps @ 1080p with my PNY GTX 460 paired with an Athlon II X4 630. I dunno if forcing threaded optimization in the NV Control Panel helps further vs leaving it on auto, but DX 11 runs fine.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Dont expect to actually use DX11 with any of those cards if you like to turn up other eye candy.

I have to force DX9 in BF:BC2 on a 5850 @1080p.

Fail.

I run a 5850 stock and i5 750 @ 1080p. 4xAA, 16xAF, and get great framerates. Like some else said, its your cpu.

 

[timma]

how about 5770?

 

[lyssword]

how about 5770?

I believe thats about equal to gts250/4850

 

[Genx87]

The stock 5870 is a good bit faster than a stock 470.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580/7

Read most of the benchmarks in this review. The 470 is close to the 5870 and the 5870 is not as fast as the 480 like you claimed.

 

[Jhatfie]

how about 5770?

5770 performs on par with a HD 4870 actually and is a decent jump in performance over the 4850. I recently upgraded my son's 4850 to a 5770 that I pulled from my HTPC and performance gains were very noticeable.

 

[happy medium]

Best Ati card for 1920x1200 under $200?

5850 or 6850, pick one.

 

[Jhatfie]

Fail.

I run a 5850 stock and i5 750 @ 1080p. 4xAA, 16xAF, and get great framerates. Like some else said, its your cpu.

Agreed, cpu sounds suspect. I am running two 5850's admittedly but at over triple the resolution, but I get 60-ish fps with everything maxed except I use only 2xAA and HBOA is off at 5760x1200.

 

[Raswan]

Picked one up at that 215 price myself last Thursday. Damn you Thanksgiving getting in the way of my three-day shipping!

I've heard from a bunch of people that 5870s are just going to continue to drop in price towards the 200 mark, as the 69xxs get closer to release. If it were me and you missed that deal on the 5870, I'd wait until they came back in stock and pick one up, even if you have to wait a couple of weeks (aren't the 69xx cards releasing in mid December?)

 

[RussianSensation]

Picked one up at that 215 price myself last Thursday. Damn you Thanksgiving getting in the way of my three-day shipping!

:thumbsup: There was no point at all in even bothering with the 6850 or 5850 when HD5870 was available for $215. But looks it has sold out at this time.

 

[Hardlin]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580/7

Read most of the benchmarks in this review. The 470 is close to the 5870 and the 5870 is not as fast as the 480 like you claimed.

Kinda like the Metro benchmarks:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580/8

It's all about the game you play.

 

[RussianSensation]

Kinda like the Metro benchmarks:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580/8

It's all about the game you play.

It's also important to consider the settings used. It's not really "winning" when you are comparing 18 vs. 22 fps.

What about when you disable the performance killing Depth of Field?
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/19934/13

GTX480 = 41 fps
GTX470 = 33 fps
HD5870 = 31 fps

Metro 2033 is one of the few games where playing beyond 1680x1050 with everything maxed out in DX11 is just not feasible on anything less than a GTX580.

I would say HD5870 is about 10%-15% faster than a GTX470 on average, and GTX480 is 15-20% faster than the HD5870. So AMD's card slots right between the 2. Here is a breakdown across resolutions. Of course HD5870 cost about $100 more than a GTX470 during the last 6 months or so. Recently with the Sapphire deal ($215), the HD5870 was a great deal temporarily. But with prices now back up to > $300, it makes no sense at all, esp. with GTX570 expected to launch in 8 days and HD6950/70 to follow shortly.

 

[Genx87]

Kinda like the Metro benchmarks:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580/8

It's all about the game you play.

Anybody can cherry pick a benchmark. But the trend in this is the 480 is a healthy % faster than the 5870, not equal or close like the person I was responding to.

 

[Skurge]

Anybody can cherry pick a benchmark. But the trend in this is the 480 is a healthy % faster than the 5870, not equal or close like the person I was responding to.

I don't think a GTX460 is $215 is it?

So its not really and option here.

 

[tyl998]

It's also important to consider the settings used. It's not really "winning" when you are comparing 18 vs. 22 fps.

What about when you disable the performance killing Depth of Field?
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/19934/13

GTX480 = 41 fps
GTX470 = 33 fps
HD5870 = 31 fps

Metro 2033 is one of the few games where playing beyond 1680x1050 with everything maxed out in DX11 is just not feasible on anything less than a GTX580.

I would say HD5870 is about 10%-15% faster than a GTX470 on average, and GTX480 is 15-20% faster than the HD5870. So AMD's card slots right between the 2. Here is a breakdown across resolutions. Of course HD5870 cost about $100 more than a GTX470 during the last 6 months or so. Recently with the Sapphire deal ($215), the HD5870 was a great deal temporarily. But with prices now back up to > $300, it makes no sense at all, esp. with GTX570 expected to launch in 8 days and HD6950/70 to follow shortly.

My 460 SLIs run Metro at max or near max @ 1920x1080 pretty well...although I don't remember the exact frame rate. But I guess 460 SLI setup counts as an equivalent to 580?

 

[RussianSensation]

My 460 SLIs run Metro at max or near max @ 1920x1080 pretty well...although I don't remember the exact frame rate. But I guess 460 SLI setup counts as an equivalent to 580?

Ya, I was talking about single GPU cards. Overclocked 460s will even beat the 580 because then it's like comparing GTX470+ SLI vs. a single 580 .

I just think a lot of people only compared GTX480 vs. HD5870 using April-May 2010 benches and the 5-10% figure stuck in their mind. NV has improved drivers since then. No matter, with HD6950/70 launching in half a month, the battle is just getting started.

 

[Keysplayr]

You could have done better than that Keys.. atleast a few benches to counter Arkadrel's post. Like this one

What do you mean, "done better" ?

What good will it do to produce benches now? A lot of cherries have already been picked here. I'm not bothering stooping to that.

 

[Nintendesert]

I'm looking forward to the battle, with the 570 coming out soon and the 69xx soon after I'm expecting some great prices and competition. I'm hoping we see many many more of the deals like the 5870 earlier.

 

[busydude]

What good will it do to produce benches now? A lot of cherries have already been picked here. I'm not bothering stooping to that.

Did you even bother to read the OP?

Now read Lonyo's post and my post again.. they were not 'cherry picked' as you understand, instead they were 'cherry picked' with OP in mind.

Arkadrel's post does not make sense as those benches do not have the 'cherry picked' games that OP is interested in.

And you blanket statement that a 470 is at 5870 level does not hold water in OP's case.

Again, you could have done better.

 

[tyl998]

Ya, I was talking about single GPU cards. Overclocked 460s will even beat the 580 because then it's like comparing GTX470+ SLI vs. a single 580 .

I just think a lot of people only compared GTX480 vs. HD5870 using April-May 2010 benches and the 5-10% figure stuck in their mind. NV has improved drivers since then. No matter, with HD6950/70 launching in half a month, the battle is just getting started.

And this time Nvidia isn't half a year late! Do you think the Ati cards will arrive in time for the price wars to start before the holiday season ends?

And yes, I've OC'ed my cards to 865 mhz core speed and 950 mhz memory speed. I can't get it up any higher and stable though. Me sad :\

 

[soccerballtux]

Anyone can see what you did there and didn't even link to a source for those benchmarks. Could have been with release drivers for all we know. Anyway, Genx is right, 5870 is at GTX470 level.

sorry all I can make out from your post is MEMBER OF NVIDIA FOCUS GROUP, your logic was lost on me.

 

[ronnn]

xfx 5850 is good for under $200, in my opinion.