best android phone for ATT?

Nvidiaguy07

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so im sick of my blackberry 9700 and I DONT want an iphone.... and i have to keep ATT (no one else gets service in my house). I would really like the HTC evo, but i know it only works on sprint :(

I was thinking about the nexus one, but i heard if you use it on ATT you cant use 3G, which basically kills it for me.

Is there any hope for an ATT user who wants android? Will there be a EVO-like phone released for ATT anytime soon? Can i hack the nexus one so it can use 3g?

Should i just stick it out with my 9700 for the time being?
 

Nvidiaguy07

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There's a Nexus1 with ATT frequencies, came out a few weeks ago.

cool, so what do you think, is this worth it or not? Ive heard theres alot of problems with the first gen nexus one. Also it seems the EVO blows it out of the water in almost every way possible.

I do want to sell my 9700 asap so i can get as much as possible for it.
 

sswingle

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EVO will use Sprints 4G. AT&T won't have 4G for a while, and when they do, its different tech.
 

Nvidiaguy07

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EVO will use Sprints 4G. AT&T won't have 4G for a while, and when they do, its different tech.

i dont care as much about the 4g as i do everything else on it.

-slightly bigger screen
-HDMI port- even though i dont see myself actually using it too often, it would be cool to have
-8 megapixel camera HD video?
-front facing camera
-ability to share with up to 8 devices (i think you need to be on 4g to do this)

on second thought i guess none of these features are really that important to me, now it just comes down to should i wait for the next gen of nexus one phones? Ive heard they've had a lot of problems and are being returned very frequently.
 

AstroManLuca

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I thought AT&T was getting the HTC Desire, basically an improved Nexus 1. But that might not be for a couple months.

Didn't know there was already an AT&T Nexus 1 out there. It has some quirks but it's still an awesome phone. If you can't wait it's probably the best option.
 

dguy6789

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Evo doesn't blow the N1 out of the water. It's just the first comparable device. It's better in some aspects, but also inferior in some. The Evo 4G has a larger screen, but it is an inferior screen in terms of color quality, brightness, and contrast when compared to the N1. The camera setup on the Evo is definitely better though. The N1 on AT&T and T-Mobile will be able to use their souped up 3G networks when they become available, which will be at least as fast as Sprint's 4G Wimax. The N1 will probably be the first Android device to get all of the new versions of the Android OS as well.

Problems with the N1 are grossly misreported and overblown. It is the new big thing and people love to see new good stuff fail. I've had my N1 for 3 months now and I've used it every single day and not once has it crashed on me, not once have I had a call dropped and I'm on T-Mobile.

Examples of overblown issues:

1. 3G connectivity problems. Some people have problems with this. Some do not. Some who have had the problem have reported that it magically went away one day. Why do you think that is? Could it be that maybe the problem was T-Mobile's network and not the Nexus One? Why would some people have an issue and some not on the exact same device? Have you heard of anyone using an AT&T N1 complain about this issue? Neither have I.

2. Most quirkiness people have experienced with the N1's touch screen comes from them accidentally touching the screen with the hand that is holding it while they are trying to do stuff with their other hand without them being aware of it.

3. Those four little main buttons aren't difficult to press nor are they quirky or inconsistent in any aspect. It takes maybe five seconds to understand exactly how to make them work 100 out of 100 times.

4. Crashes. 9 times out of 10 are caused by a buggy 3rd party app, not the device itself.

Despite all of the problems people report about the N1, the N1 is still the best phone on the market without peer at least until the Evo comes out.
 
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preslove

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The N1 is the only full android experience available to AT&T, right now. The backflip was cut off at the knees.

You sure sprint hasn't improved and reached your house lately?
 
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Nexus One or Telus Milestone (but no one seems to care about this one :D)


Examples of overblown issues:

1. 3G connectivity problems. Some people have problems with this. Some do not. Some who have had the problem have reported that it magically went away one day. Why do you think that is? Could it be that maybe the problem was T-Mobile's network and not the Nexus One? Why would some people have an issue and some not on the exact same device? Have you heard of anyone using an AT&T N1 complain about this issue? Neither have I.

Nope, the N1 has terrible reception. It's about iPhone level, and we all know how you guys love to bash the iPhone. The fact is a 11mm phone just cannot have such a nice antenna. I have a Moto Milestone and an N82. I compare them head to head with the N1 and the reception is way worse on the N1. Want numbers? -10dBm worse CONSISTENTLY. Putting both the Milestone and N1 on my desk, I can't even complete a speedtest on the N1. The 3G drops. The milestone finishes beautifully 1.3mbps down, 400kbps up.

2. Most quirkiness people have experienced with the N1's touch screen comes from them accidentally touching the screen with the hand that is holding it while they are trying to do stuff with their other hand without them being aware of it.

Shrug.

3. Those four little main buttons aren't difficult to press nor are they quirky or inconsistent in any aspect. It takes maybe five seconds to understand exactly how to make them work 100 out of 100 times.

The 4 main buttons aren't designed well. Ever use the HTC devices like the Hero? Well compare to my Milestone, I seem to not be able to get 100% accurate presses especially on the back button. It's not difficult to figure out and any dumbo should figure out what the 4 buttons do, but are they well made? Nope. Not having a problem with it means you're likely not aware of the better handsets out there or of better built options. It's not that the N1 is bad, it's just not as good compared to others.


4. Crashes. 9 times out of 10 are caused by a buggy 3rd party app, not the device itself.

True. App developers need to step it up. If the iPhone apps crash this often, people would've long ditched Apple
 
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Rottie

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no bother with Nexus One alot of people complained anout N1 problems such as 3G, unresponsive touchscreen, and 3rd party apps crashed.
 

Rottie

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Engadget keeps me informed about all cell phones you can read more from Engadget.com
 

Pliablemoose

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Evo doesn't blow the N1 out of the water. It's just the first comparable device. It's better in some aspects, but also inferior in some. The Evo 4G has a larger screen, but it is an inferior screen in terms of color quality, brightness, and contrast when compared to the N1. The camera setup on the Evo is definitely better though. The N1 on AT&T and T-Mobile will be able to use their souped up 3G networks when they become available, which will be at least as fast as Sprint's 4G Wimax. The N1 will probably be the first Android device to get all of the new versions of the Android OS as well.

Problems with the N1 are grossly misreported and overblown. It is the new big thing and people love to see new good stuff fail. I've had my N1 for 3 months now and I've used it every single day and not once has it crashed on me, not once have I had a call dropped and I'm on T-Mobile.

Examples of overblown issues:

1. 3G connectivity problems. Some people have problems with this. Some do not. Some who have had the problem have reported that it magically went away one day. Why do you think that is? Could it be that maybe the problem was T-Mobile's network and not the Nexus One? Why would some people have an issue and some not on the exact same device? Have you heard of anyone using an AT&T N1 complain about this issue? Neither have I.

I can lay my N1 on the table & watch it cycle between 5 bars to no connectivity

2. Most quirkiness people have experienced with the N1's touch screen comes from them accidentally touching the screen with the hand that is holding it while they are trying to do stuff with their other hand without them being aware of it.

That doesn't explain my unlock screen becoming completely unresponsive about 10% of the time when Im holding the phone by the edges, requiring a battery pull & hard reset.

3. Those four little main buttons aren't difficult to press nor are they quirky or inconsistent in any aspect. It takes maybe five seconds to understand exactly how to make them work 100 out of 100 times.

Until they're unresponsive completely and you have to cycle through a sleep mode to make them work

4. Crashes. 9 times out of 10 are caused by a buggy 3rd party app, not the device itself.

Agreed, Google needs to step up its game and make the apps a better experience

Despite all of the problems people report about the N1, the N1 is still the best phone on the market without peer at least until the Evo comes out.

I dunno, I think the N1 is a pretty large pile of crap, HTC is capable of making a hell of a lot better phone, its a shame the N1 is such a problem.

I guess I should send mine back for a replacement, but there are folks on the N1 support forum on their 6th phone.
 

MJinZ

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EVO will use Sprints 4G. AT&T won't have 4G for a while, and when they do, its different tech.

4G phones now are useless unless you actually live in an area with 4G. It's basically a non-consideration for most of us.

Droid or HTC Incredible for Verizon.

Nexus 1 for AT&T.

Personally, after playing with just about everything, I got a Droid. The Nexus One is faster, but the Droid is fast. And it doesn't have any issues other devices seem to have.
 

boomhower

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AT&T is certainly not Android's best friend. Besides the fact they are reluctant to carry them at all they are doing their best to cut them off by not supporting all apps. The N1 is obviously your best option. They are also getting the Pre but it certainly has it's own issues.
 

dguy6789

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I dunno, I think the N1 is a pretty large pile of crap, HTC is capable of making a hell of a lot better phone, its a shame the N1 is such a problem.

I guess I should send mine back for a replacement, but there are folks on the N1 support forum on their 6th phone.

One defective N1 doesn't mean they all are. I fully understand the frustration though. If mine wasn't working right I'd be very pissed.

I'm sure the N1 does not have the best cell antenna, but considering just how inconsistent the problem with reception is, it makes sense to think the problem is with the network. If it was a pure hardware problem, everyone would have the issue without exception. If someone is on their 6th phone and still has poor coverage, maybe they should use a different carrier. Seems really unlikely that they would get a defective phone that many times in a row.

There are countless people who have never had a problem with the device. Mine has never crashed, I've never removed the battery since I got it, my screen has never become unresponsive, the buttons have always worked. I've never dropped a call or not had a connection. I'm also in an area with really great T-Mobile coverage. The only problem I have had is using it in sunlight, but I've found ways to manage that.
 
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