Best 250G SATA II Hard drive

[amheck]

Originally posted by: BouZouki
I like Western Digital.

Decided to try out one of these AWSOME SEAGATES people talk about.

FAILED, in less then 2 months.

Its goes both ways - that's why everyone's entitled to their opinions. I had a WD which was super noisy and failed. And so did the RMA drive. OTOH, I've had many Seagates. Super quiet and have never had one fail.

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I have a Samsung Spinpoint 160GB P series PATA UDMA 8mb Cache and it's almost completely silent. Seek time is 8.5ms and in HD tach, I blow yours out of the water Undefraged and Almost Full at 93.2mb/sec forgot if that is average or top speed but wow seagates are slow.

:roll:

Now quote the media transfer rate instead of the burst INTERFACE transfer rate, because guess what? I get 93.7Mb burst interface transfer rate as well.
Just post a screenshot after an HDTach test run.

[Edit] Amusingly enough, look what happens when I compare to a Samsung Spinpoint SP1604N.

By the way, you'll be wanting to subtract the rotational latency time for your drive's RPM from the HDTach results to get the actual seek time.

 

[PleasurePaulie64]

Haha.. Anything above 90mb/second sustained is not gonna happen with a 7200rpm drive 🙂 Burst rates mean very little.

In general, Seagate and Samsung are the slowest drives though.

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: PleasurePaulie64
The fastest 7200RPM is the Hitachi 7k500 with 16mb Cache. Fastest IDE drive is WD Raptor. You will not regret getting a fast drive, as the HDD is one of the major bottlenecks in any system.

Well Raptor is SATA not IDE

Hitachi performs poorly doesn't it when iirc from storagereview.com

 

[daniel1113]

I have 4 Maxtor DiamondMax 10 drives, albeit the 300GB models, and wouldn't trade them for anything else right now. They seem to be the best balance of price, speed, noise, and warranty.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: PleasurePaulie64
The fastest 7200RPM is the Hitachi 7k500 with 16mb Cache.

How is it the fastest? I mean, it's not even available yet, much less accurately reviewed, unless I missed some websites.

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX

Originally posted by: PleasurePaulie64
The fastest 7200RPM is the Hitachi 7k500 with 16mb Cache. Fastest IDE drive is WD Raptor. You will not regret getting a fast drive, as the HDD is one of the major bottlenecks in any system.

Well Raptor is SATA not IDE

IDE = Integrated Drive Electronics.
SATA = IDE.
PATA = IDE.

 

[Phlab]

CUrrently, with the system in my sig, I get max 133mb/sec in HDtach and average o121. Is this good? SHouldI resuse these HDD's

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I have a Samsung Spinpoint 160GB P series PATA UDMA 8mb Cache and it's almost completely silent. Seek time is 8.5ms and in HD tach, I blow yours out of the water Undefraged and Almost Full at 93.2mb/sec forgot if that is average or top speed but wow seagates are slow.

:roll:

Now quote the media transfer rate instead of the burst INTERFACE transfer rate, because guess what? I get 93.7Mb burst interface transfer rate as well.
Just post a screenshot after an HDTach test run.

[Edit] Amusingly enough, look what happens when I compare to a Samsung Spinpoint SP1604N.

By the way, you'll be wanting to subtract the rotational latency time for your drive's RPM from the HDTach results to get the actual seek time.

that's becasue yuo are comparing a 5400rpm drive to a 7200rpm drive. the 1604N is a 5.4k drive. hardly a comparison at all. look at their site. HD tach states it at 7.2k but the websits offically states 5.4k.

 

[lambchops3344]

the new WD SE16 with SATA II and 16mb buffer are supposed to be amazing with there 300 transfer rate....

i own two raptors right now and there is nothing faster... really loud... but i dont notice it anymore

Im thinking of getting one of those new WD's for a storage... I know the asus sli premium supports SATA II so im all set...

 

[andy nowotny]

I prefer to Maxtor or WD

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I have a Samsung Spinpoint 160GB P series PATA UDMA 8mb Cache and it's almost completely silent. Seek time is 8.5ms and in HD tach, I blow yours out of the water Undefraged and Almost Full at 93.2mb/sec forgot if that is average or top speed but wow seagates are slow.

:roll:

Now quote the media transfer rate instead of the burst INTERFACE transfer rate, because guess what? I get 93.7Mb burst interface transfer rate as well.
Just post a screenshot after an HDTach test run.

[Edit] Amusingly enough, look what happens when I compare to a Samsung Spinpoint SP1604N.

By the way, you'll be wanting to subtract the rotational latency time for your drive's RPM from the HDTach results to get the actual seek time.

that's becasue yuo are comparing a 5400rpm drive to a 7200rpm drive. the 1604N is a 5.4k drive. hardly a comparison at all. look at their site. HD tach states it at 7.2k but the websits offically states 5.4k.

My bad 🙂
I didn't, of course, know that.

However, I'm still waiting for your peak media transfer rate 😉
(Unless of course you want to retract your opinion that Seagates are very slow...) 😛

[Edit]

No, it's not a 5400rpm drive.

 

[wfn]

there's a boatload of info on t7k250 here along with a review. http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=40&threadid=1576922

 

[flexy]

Hitachi performs poorly doesn't it when iirc from storagereview.com

quite the opposite !!!

Hitachi 7k250 SATA drives come right AFTER the raptors the BEST random access time and best noise level.

Check storagereview. I dont even know how you come up with the idea Hitachi is a poor performer ?

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: Phlab
CUrrently, with the system in my sig, I get max 133mb/sec in HDtach and average o121. Is this good? SHouldI resuse these HDD's

no you dont. 133 is the burst time which is rather uninteresting.

your drive will (VERY LIKELY) not do more than 60mb/s (beginning of drive) and probably do down to 30mb/sec (at the end)....look at the chart with the curves.

 

[Arcanedeath]

The HGST T7K250 is the fastest Sata 2 drive avi. to buy atm. samsung is the only other drive maker w/ an sata 2 drive maxtor doesn't make an sata 2 drive yet and they haven't even anounced one yet. altho their normal Maxline 3's perform well, Seagate is the slowest of the bunch and not that quiet anymore. If I was buying a 250gig HDD atm it would be an HGST T7K250 (or something I could get really cheap after rebate 🙂 )

 

[PleasurePaulie64]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: PleasurePaulie64
The fastest 7200RPM is the Hitachi 7k500 with 16mb Cache.

How is it the fastest? I mean, it's not even available yet, much less accurately reviewed, unless I missed some websites.

Well, even the 7K250 is about the fastest 7200RPM drive with 8MB over a wide range of things. Adding 16mb cache, and 500GB capacity won't hurt performance...

Originally posted by: Arcanedeath
The HGST T7K250 is the fastest Sata 2 drive avi. to buy atm. samsung is the only other drive maker w/ an sata 2 drive maxtor doesn't make an sata 2 drive yet and they haven't even anounced one yet. altho their normal Maxline 3's perform well, Seagate is the slowest of the bunch and not that quiet anymore. If I was buying a 250gig HDD atm it would be an HGST T7K250 (or something I could get really cheap after rebate 🙂 )

Very very good advice...

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: PleasurePaulie64
Well, even the 7K250 is about the fastest 7200RPM drive with 8MB over a wide range of things. Adding 16mb cache, and 500GB capacity won't hurt performance...

Depends which performance you are measuring. Most larger drives are quite a bit slower than their smaller counterparts.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I have a Samsung Spinpoint 160GB P series PATA UDMA 8mb Cache and it's almost completely silent. Seek time is 8.5ms and in HD tach, I blow yours out of the water Undefraged and Almost Full at 93.2mb/sec forgot if that is average or top speed but wow seagates are slow.

:roll:

Now quote the media transfer rate instead of the burst INTERFACE transfer rate, because guess what? I get 93.7Mb burst interface transfer rate as well.
Just post a screenshot after an HDTach test run.

[Edit] Amusingly enough, look what happens when I compare to a Samsung Spinpoint SP1604N.

By the way, you'll be wanting to subtract the rotational latency time for your drive's RPM from the HDTach results to get the actual seek time.

that's becasue yuo are comparing a 5400rpm drive to a 7200rpm drive. the 1604N is a 5.4k drive. hardly a comparison at all. look at their site. HD tach states it at 7.2k but the websits offically states 5.4k.

My bad 🙂
I didn't, of course, know that.

However, I'm still waiting for your peak media transfer rate 😉
(Unless of course you want to retract your opinion that Seagates are very slow...) 😛

[Edit]

No, it's not a 5400rpm drive.

wtf yes it is. how did this happen?
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/index.htm
SpinPoint V Series
V80 Series
1604N / 160.0GB / 5400rpm

btw, i will bench my samsung again once i figure how to set S.M.A.R.T./that other weird performance/noise thing back to normal and defrag.