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Berlin teen admits fabricating migrant gang-rape story

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Indus

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/01/europe/germany-teen-migrant-rape-false/index.html

Berlin (CNN)A Berlin teen who claimed to have been abducted and gang-raped by migrants, sparking angry protests and an international row with Russia, has admitted making up the story and was found to have been staying with a German man instead, an official said Monday.

The 13-year-old girl -- a member of Berlin's Russian-speaking community -- made the rape claim to police when she returned after a 30-hour absence last month. She alleged that three men of Arabic and Turkish descent had dragged her into a car at a train station and abused her.

Stories of the girl's ordeal circulated in Russian media and on social networks, prompting street demonstrations by Russian-German communities and right-wing groups.

Even Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov weighed in, accusing German authorities of a politically correct "coverup."

But Berlin prosecutor's office spokesman Martin Steltner said the girl withdrew her claim after a medical examination showed that she had not been raped.

Police determined through her phone records that she was staying with a German man on the night of her absence, Steltner said.

The man and his mother confirmed that the girl had been at the house. No sexual activity occurred that night, Steltner said.

From speaking to the girl, police determined that she had had sexual contact with two men months before her disappearance.

The men were being held for questioning because the girl is under the age of consent, and they admitted the sexual contact, Steltner said.

One of the men was a Turkish citizen, he said.

He said the girl had been experiencing problems at school.

Germany is reeling from a wave of mob sex assaults blamed on migrants on New Year's Eve.

More than 900 people reported being attacked by North African or Arab men during festivities in Cologne, with 523 of them reporting having been sexually assaulted. Similar attacks were reported in other German cities.
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As if rape isn't a real problem, we need to deal with these attention seeking and wanna blame someone clowns.
 
tracerbullet said:
I'm really curious how you read what was posted and then came to this conclusion or need to verify that was OP's intent.
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Maybe because the OP's conclusion, that the girl is an attention seeking clown, is not logical unless the OP believes that the portion of the article indicating two men had sexual contact with her several months ago was not rape.

This article is indicative of an embarrassed, ashamed girl who unecessarily and unfortunately exaggerated the circumstances of being sexually assaulted (and lied about the timing of it), likely to to help assuage her own guilt and shame at being raped/assaulted.

At a minimum we need more information before such harsh criticism would bee appropriate.
 
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Cozarkian said:
Maybe because the OP's conclusion, that the girl is an attention seeking clown, is not logical unless the OP believes that the portion of the article indicating two men had sexual contact with her several months ago was not rape.

This article is indicative of an embarrassed, ashamed girl who unecessarily and unfortunately exaggerated the circumstances of being sexually assaulted (and lied about the timing of it), likely to to help assuage her own guilt and shame at being raped/assaulted.

At a minimum we need more information before such harsh criticism would bee appropriate.
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Age of consent in EU is much lower than US btw.
 
Cozarkian said:
This article is indicative of an embarrassed, ashamed girl who unecessarily and unfortunately exaggerated the circumstances of being sexually assaulted (and lied about the timing of it), likely to to help assuage her own guilt and shame at being raped/assaulted.
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She ran away and stayed with an adult male (although maybe not very old since it sounds like he lives with his mother), that appears to not be related to whatever sexual relationship she previously had with the Turkish man. It's very possible that the abduction and rape story was made in order to get out of being punished by her parents for what she actually did. Possibly also to protect the man she stayed with.

Maybe the Turkish man she did have a sexual relationship with was one she directly implicated in her story. If that happened maybe she was trying to frame him for an even more severe crime than statutory rape. But this is pure speculation.
 
There is a difference between rape and statutory rape... One involves consenting individuals the other does not.
What was initially reported very clearly fell into forced rape which was not actually the case.

Also looking at where they were, age of consent appears to be 14.
 
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omg 1 girl lied about being assaulted by rapefugees. Too bad there's 900 others in Germany alone, and Angela Merkel continues to call multiculturalism a sham and that letting that many in at once was a huge mistake...
 
I don't recall the original incident/claim being reported by the media (here or in the Italian or French media).

Fern
 
SP33Demon said:
omg 1 girl lied about being assaulted by rapefugees. Too bad there's 900 others in Germany alone, and Angela Merkel continues to call multiculturalism a sham and that letting that many in at once was a huge mistake...
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omg 1 million refugees came last year. 900 rapes out of 1 million refugees.. what's that 0.09% of the refuge population?

Do you want to condemn the other 99.91% of refugees for 0.09% being rapists?

Isn't that guilt by association?
 
SP33Demon said:
omg 1 girl lied about being assaulted by rapefugees. Too bad there's 900 others in Germany alone, and Angela Merkel continues to call multiculturalism a sham and that letting that many in at once was a huge mistake...
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oooh looky here, a new codeword for fucktards, 'rapefugees'
keep that hate churnin'!
 
Indus said:
omg 1 million refugees came last year. 900 rapes out of 1 million refugees.. what's that 0.09% of the refuge population?

Do you want to condemn the other 99.91% of refugees for 0.09% being rapists?

Isn't that guilt by association?
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There weren't 900 rapes in Cologne anyway, there were 900 reports of assault with something like 500 of them being sexual in nature. The actual rapes were a handful.

Not to diminish what happened, I just want to make sure the correct language is used.

There also isn't anything stating that there's anything close to a 1:1 ratio of assaulter to victim, in reality you would expect the ratio to be much lower than that with one person assaulting several in this scenario.

All of that said, looking at an incident where a large group of some demographic is gathered points to something pretty different from just looking at several small incidents in isolation. It points to at least some higher structural/cultural power and influence among many people.
 
Exophase said:
There weren't 900 rapes in Cologne anyway, there were 900 reports of assault with something like 500 of them being sexual in nature. The actual rapes were a handful.

Not to diminish what happened, I just want to make sure the correct language is used.

There also isn't anything stating that there's anything close to a 1:1 ratio of assaulter to victim, in reality you would expect the ratio to be much lower than that with one person assaulting several in this scenario.

All of that said, looking at an incident where a large group of some demographic is gathered points to something pretty different from just looking at several small incidents in isolation. It points to at least some higher structural/cultural power and influence among many people.
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Stop trying to sugar coat a turd!
 
Matthiasa said:
There is a difference between rape and statutory rape... One involves consenting individuals the other does not.
What was initially reported very clearly fell into forced rape which was not actually the case.

Also looking at where they were, age of consent appears to be 14.
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You do not understand the words you are using. You should look up the word statutory. Statutory rape does not only deal with age of consent.

Having sex under the age of consent means that the person inherently cannot give consent. The person is too young to realize the full implications of their actions and thus the law says that consent cannot be given.

Your argument is that a Dalmatian is different from a Dog. Dog is the Species, and Dalmatian is the sub group. Rape is the classification and Statutory is the sub group.
 
You are effectively saying that someone that is 14 in Germany is better able to realize there actions than someone that is 18 in the US with regards to sex. You know full well that's not how it actually works. Do you not remember being that age at one point?

Also, you don't seem to understand the most common usage of statutory rape... if it was anything but outside of the age rage between individuals that agreed to such actions it would have been listed as such.

There is a difference between legal consent and actual consent.
 
Matthiasa said:
You are effectively saying that someone that is 14 in Germany is better able to realize there actions than someone that is 18 in the US with regards to sex. You know full well that's not how it actually works. Do you not remember being that age at one point?

Also, you don't seem to understand the most common usage of statutory rape... if it was anything but outside of the age rage between individuals that agreed to such actions it would have been listed as such.

There is a difference between legal consent and actual consent.
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Its possible sure. Cultures play a big part in how mature children are. The sexual culture of Germany is probably a lot healthier than here in the US from what I know. I have a neighbor who moved from Germany with this wife about 20 years ago. The way he is about sex is very different. I had a roommate who's family was German and she spent many of her younger teen years in Germany. The way she tells her story kids thought she was weird because of how she view sex. They were all having it, but they looked at it as something to do in a relationship more often than just for fun.

Its generally accepted that people can make decisions about some things and not others with their current level of maturity. For example, a 8yo can choose what clothes they want to wear, but they don't get to serve on a jury. Consent in sexual matters is no different.

Now, the reason I asked the question is because I knew the OP would not answer it, because this whole thread was political and without much thought.
 
It would be fitting if that little girl ended up being the spark that caused this whole powderkeg to blow sky high. When false accusations are made with respect to a social movement or a cultural shift, the way in which the emotional responses feed the movement cannot be undone even when the truth often comes out later. It is an interesting flaw in the social fabric. A few well placed lies are all it takes to bring a system down.
 
Orignal Earl said:
Well technically sex with a 13 year old in the US is not rape.
She could be married for instance
In Germany or Turkey that would be against the law
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Earl, you apparently do not understand US law, even a little if you think that. In no state, married or not, can a person have sex at the age of 13 and it be legal. Maybe its different in Canada, but not here in the US.
 
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