BenQ Black 16X IDE DVD Burner

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ScottFern

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I have the DW1650 and it rips DVDs well and has flawless burns! The only issue I have noticed is that when a DVD/CD is inserted its constantly seeking and spinning and I don't know why?
 

TekDemon

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My old BenQ DW1620 (actually I might have flashed something up to this...don't really remember) has been pretty good in terms of what it'll burn-it overspeeds old 4X media (quality 4X media anyway) very well if you're willing to hack it lol. I have some Ritek made RICOHJPN01 coded discs overspeeding to approx. 12x speeds with excellent quality. You can even tell it to burn at 16X but it doesn't go any faster than 12x since it just throttles.

At any rate, my only problem is that these things might not be quite that reliable...the stupid tray won't always come out now =( Even if it's something else in my computer causing this glitch my BenQ has never supported buffer underrun protection on DVD discs...apparently it supports it on CD-R burns so they put the logos everywhere without bothering to tell anybody that this didn't happen to work on DVDs...grr

Still, if you're not expecting to keep it forever, BenQ's are fantastic drives with proper firmware updating/hacking.
 

TekDemon

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Originally posted by: altonb1
When did BenQ become a good brand? I know they used to be looked at as an inferior drive to the Lite-ons, but this thread implies differently.

The earlier BenQ DVD drives (including my own at first) were basically horrible, but BenQ's engineering/firmware writer guys really came through around the time my drive came out.

In fact, on my particular drive it went from being one of the worst drives at the time to one of the best drives available...which impressed me a great deal! And pretty much every pissed off BenQ customer nerdy enough to go find a DVD burner forum.

Since then they've mostly kept up the quality, although if you read through reviews you'll see that they occasionally launch stuff that has glitches. But since their firmware releases are pretty frequent and actually improve things I don't mind recommending BenQ drives anymore.

Phenomenal job on the part of the firmware guys though! They actually read DVD burner forums for issues users are having, and constantly improve upon the firmware...I found this pretty unbelievable-a company actually having a team do what they SHOULD BE DOING! If other optical companies would take a page from BenQ's book we probably wouldn't even have garbage drives anymore.

I think my drive was either an OEM DW1610 or DW1620 originally...it's flashed to the retail DW1620 firmware now with my own write strategy hack-I told the drive to burn onto my Ridata RICOHJPN01 4X discs with the strategy they use for the 16X RICOH coded discs, and every disc I tested had error rates on par with what they were when burned at 4X! :shocked:

So...if any BenQ engineers or firmware people (I'm pretty sure they're one department actually lol) are reading this...mad props! Two thumbs up ;) You guys really showed that if a company really puts it's mind to making some of the best damn optical drives it can quickly turn the tables on the competition.

I used to like Lite-On myself but after all my Lite-On drives died after living pretty short lifespans I've just been buying cheap after rebate drives...I got lucky and ended up with my rebranded BenQ =)
 

neutralizer

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Sweet, I needed a DVD-burner and I saw this thread. Awesome, I guess I have a new burner coming in a few days.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: TekDemon
my BenQ has never supported buffer underrun protection on DVD discs...apparently it supports it on CD-R burns so they put the logos everywhere without bothering to tell anybody that this didn't happen to work on DVDs...grr

Are you using DVD+R or DVD-R? IIRC -R doesn't but +R does no most drives.
 

c627627

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Originally posted by: TekDemon
my BenQ has never supported buffer underrun protection on DVD discs...apparently it supports it on CD-R burns so they put the logos everywhere without bothering to tell anybody that this didn't happen to work on DVDs...grr.

Wait, what are you saying? That others (NEC/Pioneer?) support DVD buffer underrun protection and BenQ does not?

Could someone please clarify this.

 

duragezic

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Really like my BenQ DW1655. No complaints at all.

I got the black OEM and it came with some version of Nero.. but it was just something like NeroVision 3, not the whole deal.

Didn't matter though

To 'back up' DVDs are you say, all you need is DVDDecrypter to rip them, then something like AutoGK or Fairuse to encode them. All are free.
 

imported_BadKarma

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Originally posted by: c627627
Originally posted by: TekDemon
my BenQ has never supported buffer underrun protection on DVD discs...apparently it supports it on CD-R burns so they put the logos everywhere without bothering to tell anybody that this didn't happen to work on DVDs...grr.

Wait, what are you saying? That others (NEC/Pioneer?) support DVD buffer underrun protection and BenQ does not?

Could someone please clarify this.


Buffer underrun protection is a standard feature for the past couple of years. It's like anti-lock brakes or airbags in cars. It's so common that no one hardly ever talks about it. So, I wouldn't worry too much about it. In TekDemon's case, I think there's something wrong with either his drive or his burning software. Because the buffer underrun protection is either on or off.

I've been using this drive for the past 3-4 months and I have to say I'm very please with the burn quality. It was even better than my old NEC 3500 with hacked firmware.
 

nomadh

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Originally posted by: c627627
Originally posted by: TekDemon
my BenQ has never supported buffer underrun protection on DVD discs...apparently it supports it on CD-R burns so they put the logos everywhere without bothering to tell anybody that this didn't happen to work on DVDs...grr.

Wait, what are you saying? That others (NEC/Pioneer?) support DVD buffer underrun protection and BenQ does not?

Could someone please clarify this.



I think they must use a form of buffer underrun but if not then they figured out something better. Somehow they constantly adapt the burn to the media and then stores what it learns for future burning. Even when it knows how to burn a type of media it still adapts to your media specifically. For instance its best to have clean room media but that won't happen so the drive adapts to dust or maybe even fingerprints or media flaws. I read about itawhile ago but it seems to be more than marketing hype
 

BladeVenom

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Originally posted by: altonb1
When did BenQ become a good brand? I know they used to be looked at as an inferior drive to the Lite-ons, but this thread implies differently.

From Anandtech 16x DVDR round up last year.
The only drive we saw that could write to the majority of discs and quickly at that was BenQ's DW1640. It had average performance on most of the benchmarks. but always had a successful read to go with the successful write. .
...Over these 6 DVDR units, we recommend the BenQ DW1640 for its performance and reliability in writing to various types of media.