Benchmarkers need to stop using biased games when testing GPUs.

[taltamir]

The vast majority of review sites do not actually average out game scores, they benchmark each game by itself and present its results...
If you have a problem with games you consider biased, then ignore that specific game's reviews.

 

[nemesismk2]

A guaranteed overclock that's covered by a warranty sounds good to me. :thumbsup:

It sounds good to me as well

 

[MrK6]

A guaranteed overclock that's covered by a warranty sounds good to me. :thumbsup:

That's not true at all. Because it is guaranteed over-clocking; a different AIB Sku if you will.

And many differ from exotic cooling to AIB PCB's with better components than default, which may allow even higher over-clocking potential with better acoustics and thermals.

It sounds good to me as well

I'm sure the AIB's enjoy making a healthy profit off your naiveness and lack of understanding :thumbsup:.


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[BFG10K]

We still enjoy your benches anyways.

Good, because there are a lot of more coming in the next few days. :awe:

 

[SirPauly]

I'm sure the AIB's enjoy making a healthy profit off your naiveness and lack of understanding :thumbsup:.

It's a simple premise on higher default clockings. The chips may be rated a bit higher and the AIB's charge a modest premium for them. One can still over clock these chips as well. You're not implying that they don't test these chips; are you?

If one doesn't find value with them, that's fine but doesn't translate into someone not understanding, naive, but simply believe choice is wonderful to consider.

 

[Insomniator]

I love how people always tried to backup ATI's drivers as they got SLIGHTLY better over the years but their software still sucks just like it has since ~1999.

They have some very good value cards but I just can't do that to myself again. I deal with CCC enough at work.

 

[MrK6]

Good, because there are a lot of more coming in the next few days. :awe:

Nice, looking forward to the read :thumbsup:

It's a simple premise on higher default clockings. The chips may be rated a bit higher and the AIB's charge a modest premium for them. One can still over clock these chips as well. You're not implying that they don't test these chips; are you?

If one doesn't find value with them, that's fine but doesn't translate into someone not understanding, naive, but simply believe choice is wonderful to consider.

There's no binning of chips with these cards though, that's incredibly cost prohibitive, especially after the chip manufacturers have already done it (i.e., a 6950 is a binned 6970, etc.). They're simply randomly overclocked, sometimes given a short test for stability (which isn't thorough by any means) or just a random voltage boost, and a higher price and different sticker is slapped on the card. The hardware is identical, and you aren't guaranteed any overclock. There are "OC" editions (usually the most "extreme" editions) that can't reliably perform at their stated speeds/specs, and yes, it's guaranteed, but so is the return shipping fee and RMA wait time. Furthermore, most "OC" edition cards are set to clocks that ANY card of that GPU model can do. Therefore, buying just clock speeds is a complete waste of money. People who argue otherwise without definitive proof that their chip was binned (there are a few exceptions/limited run cards that are binned), are trying to justify the money they wasted due to their lack of understanding.

Again, as I started this tangent with, buying OC editions for a better cooler, better power circuitry, etc. can be a valuable purchase. Buying cards simply because they're pre-overclocked is a newbie's mistake.

 

[SirPauly]

I disagree. Based on how chips may differ and no one is guaranteed a clocking over the default. Sometimes, owners have fantastic over-clocks and some do not.

 

[MrK6]

I disagree. Based on how chips may differ and no one is guaranteed a clocking over the default. Sometimes, owners have fantastic over-clocks and some do not.

A common misconception. And AIB's bet on that and other insecurities/lack of knowledge to make that profit. It's the same lack of knowledge and insecurity that allows the Geek Squad to charge $50 (at least) to put in a video card or RAM upgrade.

 

[SirPauly]

I don't think AIB's bet on misleading misconceptions but try to create differentiation and choice, Like the EVGA GTX 460 FTW. With this product, one is clocked at 850, with enough head room to still over-clock more.


http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/18

Anand's site didn't reach 850 on some of the GTX 460 sku's and Ryan is a professional.

 

[mattee]

sorry to tramp on page but could somebody look at my 8800gts thread. sorry again but im desperate