There's more to it than that. Cabinet secretaries are rightfully assigned the task of helping to formulate policy, not just implement it. Housing policy is a very deep subject that Carson knows little about. He won't be any help at all.
It's quite likely that Donald Trump is not able to distinguish between Ben Carson and Jimmy McMillan. This is a trait found in many racists.
NesuD
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Well reading the resume of the current HUD secretary other than being a career politician elected as a city councilman and the mayor of San Antonio I don't really see any real experience running a federal bureaucracy there either. I am pretty much sold on minimizing the career politicians wherever possible so I have no problem with this pick.
HamburgerBoy
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City councilmen and mayors are often directly involved in the zoning and planning decisions of their cities.
Homerboy
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pauldun170
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Trump associates all black people with the term "inner city"
In Trump's mind, Carson was the perfect choice.
In Trump's mind, Carson was the perfect choice.
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HamburgerBoy
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imo, the fact that Carson has expressed a desire to not be involved in politics or official duties, along with turning down a Secretary of Health & HS position (where he would actually be knowledgeable and have more of an ethical responsibility to evaluate things put on his desk), is all the evidence needed that he agreed to be nothing more than a figurehead that Trump & co will control. In terms of draining the swamp, I don't think this was an inconsistent thing to do. Trump is simply establishing that he's going to run a top-heavy administration, which puts even more direct responsibility onto him over his lackeys. Whether Trump actually holds himself responsible if/when shit hits the fan is another matter.
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nakedfrog
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That had confused me, but you're presenting a reasonable theory behind the pick. So that's nice.
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Trump picked Carson IMO because he's not politically connected. HUD has been a hotbed of profiteering going back to at least as early as the Reagan administration. The best person for the job is one with no ties to developers, community organizers and the political elite. Trump has made a great choice. The point of HUD is to benefit the people, not nurture a climate of cronyism.
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kage69
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With all this talk of him wanting to repay people for their support I was worried Trump was going to send him to NIH, FDA, or yeah maybe even PHSCC. I'm a little curious if this was Trump's outright decision or more a Priebus and Co. kinda thing.
Yeah HUD will work I guess, whatever. The nutty professor who always looks stoned will make the HUD great again, cool.
Sarah Palin for federal Director of Calendars! C'mon Trump!
Yeah HUD will work I guess, whatever. The nutty professor who always looks stoned will make the HUD great again, cool.
Sarah Palin for federal Director of Calendars! C'mon Trump!
kage69
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Trump & Kushner are both real estate developers so having a yes man as HUD secretary would seem to serve their purposes. Carson doesn't seem to know much at all about his new job but he's eager to please.
boomerang
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My experiences in the working world have proven to me that it's important to please the boss.
Under the scenario you describe there is nobody that would be suitable to head up HUD.
But I fully understand the desire to lambaste every pick of an incoming president. I've been there and done that.
Please. Good managers select assistants who can contribute more than just being rubber stamps. It's hard to see how Carson can make positive contributions to housing policy Because it's completely unfamiliar territory to him.
A highly educated brain surgeon should be highly trainable. He'll do just fine...just a little bit of a learning curve.
peonyu
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This pick to me, just screams that he is thanking Carson for his loyalty. Now
Omarosa's work ethic is crazy, she should be somewhere in his administration. This is someone who can get things done...Carson, obviously he is very intelligent and capable, so we will see how he does. He lacks the energy of Omarosa though.
Omarosa's work ethic is crazy, she should be somewhere in his administration. This is someone who can get things done...Carson, obviously he is very intelligent and capable, so we will see how he does. He lacks the energy of Omarosa though.
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"A little bit of a learning curve?" He has no experience in housing and urban development whatsoever. Remember, this is also the neurosurgeon who has stated that the Great Pyramids were used as grain storage for Joseph, and even said he would be a terrible choice for any cabinet position. I'm sorry, but he's likely going to flounder and will basically need the staff below him to do the real work.
If conservatives truly believe government is broken, I don't know why they would favor this pick. To enact meaningful change, you need someone with knowledge of the problems and challenges. Ben Carson that ain't.
I personally don't care that much. I suspect it will be a few years of just keeping the status quo for HUD.
I personally don't care that much. I suspect it will be a few years of just keeping the status quo for HUD.
HamburgerBoy
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A 65 year old brain surgeon, that devoted the majority of his life to perfecting a single (albeit obviously incredibly complicated) task.
You just keep on telling yourself that. Eventually you might actually believe it.
Oh wait, you already do. Never mind then.
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