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beloved patriot in China's armor - HK throwing down the gaunlet

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WT said:
The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
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Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here.
 
UncleWai said:
I am a detective inspector. I am just on standby, but unlikely I will be called to the street as I don't have any protective gears. I think the commies army will be called out first before my turn.
Here's a pic I took at the time when the protestors are gathering up.

I am all for this protest as the Hong Kong government had been licking the commies' ass for too long.
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Just wanted to say thanks for posting...

Sticky wicket this.

Best of luck to you and to all of the Hongkongers!

Uno
 
HK's return to china was one world news that truly saddened me; i hope you kick them out and get your independence.
 
China says its all a CIA conspiracy!!!! They've been recruiting students with promises of universities of their choice studying abroad if they agree to protest 😉
 
UncleWai said:
I am a detective inspector. I am just on standby, but unlikely I will be called to the street as I don't have any protective gears. I think the commies army will be called out first before my turn.
Here's a pic I took at the time when the protestors are gathering up.
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I am all for this protest as the Hong Kong government had been licking the commies' ass for too long.
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I hope everything turns out for the best, stay safe.

If you can give us updates and pics it would be awesome!
 
It's never about independence. HK will always belong to China. We just want the right to vote for our own governor.

The commies will never yield to our request. So instead I am hoping the HK protest will lead to more unrest in China and eventually overthrow this piece of shit Chinese government.
 
UncleWai said:
It's never about independence. HK will always belong to China. We just want the right to vote for our own governor.

The commies will never yield to our request. So instead I am hoping the HK protest will lead to more unrest in China and eventually overthrow this piece of shit Chinese government.
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That's highly unlikely, but I don't see the two systems one nation policy holding up for much longer.
 
UncleWai said:
It's never about independence. HK will always belong to China. We just want the right to vote for our own governor.

The commies will never yield to our request. So instead I am hoping the HK protest will lead to more unrest in China and eventually overthrow this piece of shit Chinese government.
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I do hope the CCP (red commie china government body) is gone and china can be democratic as Taiwan.
 
I'm in HK now. Been here for over half a year. Just walked through Central to Admiralty and saw tons of young kids just camping out on the street, protesting, stockpiling water supplies, etc. It's really hot and humid here, even at night.

I'm not sure what progress this will make though. The US had peaceful demonstrations in our past that have worked because we already had a backbone of democracy.

But HK is up against a totalitarian government that is also very concerned about saving face. I'm afraid that nonviolent protests will do no good.

Do anyone know of a case where nonviolent protest worked against a totalitarian government?

And BTW China can seriously go fuck itself. I fully support what the students are doing and the desire for universal suffrage, but I don't think "lawful, nonviolent protests" like the ones the government wants people to have will do anything.
 
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That's why our laws are supposed to be written to prevent us from ever getting that far but it seems our leaders ignore their oath to preserve it and always try to reshape it.
 
UncleWai said:
It's never about independence. HK will always belong to China. We just want the right to vote for our own governor.

The commies will never yield to our request. So instead I am hoping the HK protest will lead to more unrest in China and eventually overthrow this piece of shit Chinese government.
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So, you want to govern yourselves independently of mainland China, but you still want the support and infrastructure being part of China accommodates you? That sounds highly unlikely to succeed. That is pretty one sided in the eyes of the Chinese government.
 
I am in HK 8 times a year or so and usually stay in one of the hotels connected to Pacific Place. The HK government buildings are right in the same area. So this has even a little but more personal connection.

That is the main protest area in HK because of where the government buildings and court buildings are. If I remember right, police HQ is in Wan Chai right on the border with Admiralty (that is the main MTR station I used when in HK).

Michael
 
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smackababy said:
So, you want to govern yourselves independently of mainland China, but you still want the support and infrastructure being part of China accommodates you? That sounds highly unlikely to succeed. That is pretty one sided in the eyes of the Chinese government.
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They don't want entire independence from China, only the freedom to elect their own Chief Executive. Currently Beijing says that the future chief executive can only be elected from a pool of candidates approved by Beijing itself.
 
#1 China needs to bring in sports and movie starts. You get football etc.. the equivalent of the NFL,NBA,MLB,NASCAR.

#2 Also create a fake democracy, create two "parties" that represent the same group of people, have the media provide to the public a curated list of people to vote for.

#3 Profit.

China is doing it wrong.
 
WT said:
The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
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That one got me a while ago... Big Lebowski?
 
fuzzy you should use your uber photography skill and do some justice for the protest.

Also let me explain why this is a big thing in HK. Usually HK citizens don't give half a shit about politics because they are always too busy studying or making money. So if you have a protest that occurs on a weekday and carries over for over one day, it's like the equivalent of a French revolution.

The Hong Kong police already fucked up yesterday shooting tear gas at the crowd but did not have any backup to take possess of the ground. Now the hornet nest is stirred and everyone is coming out to protest.

The picture is taken at a place called admiralty (I work at the main Police building in between Admiralty and Wan Chai). The protest also is taking place in Mong Kok, Causeway Bay and other parts of Hong Kong. This is only the beginning.
 
Stay safe guys in HK and hide your tracks online in case things get bad. Be careful




the political situation seems untenable since there really is no way China Capitulates because of the fear of precedent. Look at the middle east.



A 10 year timetable would be something they could get behind politically
 
Gee who would have ever thought Red China would renege on it's promise of 50 years noninterference with internal Hong Kong politics (except for issues of national security).

But they never will break the promises they have made to US corporations, right?

Good luck to the people of Hong Kong.
 
hey Unclewai, you are in the police force? I am very curious to hear your side of the story, because everyone and their extended family and blaming the cops for unnecessary violence.
 
WT said:
The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
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Oh ya? Well, That's like, just your opinion, man.
 
andylawcc said:
hey Unclewai, you are in the police force? I am very curious to hear your side of the story, because everyone and their extended family and blaming the cops for unnecessary violence.
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I blame this whole clusterfuck on what I called the Chinese mentality. It consists of: 1) the tendency to become an obedient minion who goes the extra mile to please his master; 2) self-insecurity; and 3) the lack of courage to own up responsibility.

The bosses in the Police force/secretary for security/chief executive threw the frontline at the crossfire by ordering them to throw tear gas at the crowds. They hoped to show to the commies that the HK gov can take hardline stance. When it backfires, no one has the guts to apologize or present any compromise suggestion.

This Chinese mentality ensures China will never become a superpower.
 
smackababy said:
So, you want to govern yourselves independently of mainland China, but you still want the support and infrastructure being part of China accommodates you? That sounds highly unlikely to succeed. That is pretty one sided in the eyes of the Chinese government.
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The issue, as I understand it, is that China promised that there would be universal suffrage in Hong Kong when the Brits handed HK back to China. Since HK had been under British rule for so long, everyone is very much used to living in a western style democracy. What sparked this whole mess is China essentially reneging on those promises by changing how the elections would work. Basically the election candidates for the chief executive position would be vetted and approved by China. That's not real democracy as far as the citizens are concerned. So the really serious protests started with university students boycotting classes.
 
Maybe Hong Kong should just join Taiwan. So what's the process for a Chinese territory to secede? Is it similar to the process we recently saw in the UK? /s
 
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