Believers of Trump on ending "waste fraud and abuse", question...

[HomerJS]

Those who are believers of Trump on this issue, if it is true how do you square DOGE not dealing with...

Spending over 1B to retrofit a B747 when we already have 2 working AF1s?
Trump breaking the record for spending on Presidential golf trips in < 6 months where it took Obama 8 years to amass?
Spending 50-150M on a military parade which we haven't had in the past except the ending of a war.

How can you claim he is really interested in cutting WFA in light of these expenditures?

 

[eelw]

Cuts for thee. Not for me

 

[biostud]

Yeah, he's a lying dishonest egomaniac with cult of followers.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I must have been living my life in a bubble of enlightenment, while everyone else was in the dark.

Musk was an ignoramus. If you want to preserve the institutions, you would apply a bottom-up and top-down exercise in work measurement. What the agencies do is defined by their particular CFR -- Code of Federal Regulations. So you re-examine organizational structure and staffing levels, and trim with care and thoughtfulness.

The MAGA don't care about the evolution of government through generations of democratic process, however. So just enable an asshole with a chainsaw to hurt civil servants and their respective clientele -- veterans, students, the sick and infirm -- complete the list.

At least I live in a prosperous state with sane government . . . despite the wildfires and now the threat of martial law because of a relatively tame group of demonstrators barely an afterthought in LA.

 

[cytg111]

No. You are fucked.

What was the showdown with Elon?

Come at me bro with epstein and shit?
Cancel your gov contracts.

Fund democrats or primary maga incumbent's?
Cancel your gov contracts.

Massive abuse. How is this much different than Putin "pistol whipping" the ru oligarks on his rise to power?

Trump wields the US presidency as his personal tool.

You think there will be midterms if he believes that maga will get murdered?

Fuck no. National Emergency. Martial law. #CANCELMIDTERMS.
Get fucked.
You. Are. Fucked.

God I hope not.... But

 

[BonzaiDuck]

No. You are fucked.

What was the showdown with Elon?

Come at me bro with epstein and shit?
Cancel your gov contracts.

Fund democrats or primary maga incumbent's?
Cancel your gov contracts.

Massive abuse. How is this much different than Putin "pistol whipping" the ru oligarks on his rise to power?

Trump wields the US presidency as his personal tool.

You think there will be midterms if he believes that maga will get murdered?

Fuck no. National Emergency. Martial law. #CANCELMIDTERMS.
Get fucked.
You. Are. Fucked.

God I hope not.... But

We probably need to get drunk. I am stuck in the same pessimistic vision.

Here's the latest news analysis. Trump is going to try jump-starting chaos in all the Blue Democratic cities. Then he can declare martial law in important Blue states and suspend elections.

Whether he does this to ensure himself of a 3rd term or otherwise, it is a sick nightmare scenario.

How do we stop it?

 

[trenchfoot]

It seems the only way to stop Trump is for Trump to stop Trump....again. Let him be himself and FAFO his ass out of the wheelhouse beginning with him getting so out of hand, so ridiculously psychotic and neurotic that it scares the fence sitters enough to disbelieve what they once believed about Trump "being the better person" to lead the nation (really?) ,being a sharp businessman that will "reduce fraud, waste and abuse" (oh puh-lease). I still can't believe that untold millions of fools went for that doggy doo.

Well Trump's Big Beautiful Bill has been irrefutably shown to do just the opposite, among a host of other things, he's tacking on trillions to the national debt, removing millions of folks off the Medicare rolls and oh, giving himself and his fellow billionaires another hefty tax cut. And where or where are his supporters complaining about that? That he lied to them, that he scammed them, that he literally yanked the rug out from under them I wonder out loud.

 

[zinfamous]

I must have been living my life in a bubble of enlightenment, while everyone else was in the dark.

Musk was an ignoramus. If you want to preserve the institutions, you would apply a bottom-up and top-down exercise in work measurement. What the agencies do is defined by their particular CFR -- Code of Federal Regulations. So you re-examine organizational structure and staffing levels, and trim with care and thoughtfulness.

The MAGA don't care about the evolution of government through generations of democratic process, however. So just enable an asshole with a chainsaw to hurt civil servants and their respective clientele -- veterans, students, the sick and infirm -- complete the list.

At least I live in a prosperous state with sane government . . . despite the wildfires and now the threat of martial law because of a relatively tame group of demonstrators barely an afterthought in LA.

it is forever baffling to me why the cult of MAGA, now simply the GOP and their sycophant supporters, ever seem to think that "cutting government spending!" is ever going to mean that all of that savings come back to them. I know that no matter the decade and the unassailable evidence that the savings only ever go to the criminally wealthy and the ultra corrupt government criminals that run these scams (you know, that Trump family), but how is it, beyond all that we already know about targeted brainwashing of this voter base, do they still easily ignore the fact that they are only ever losing wealth why the wealthy get vastly wealthier, and these MAGATs are wholly content that it really is brown man all this time, forever and ever, that is taking the money that was promised to them?

We can point out the bullets about how all of this happens, in such a way that the founders of modern conservatism and the MAGATs orchestrated this hijacking of their brains, but it is still perplexing to me how it is so easy for them to happily ignore the plain facts in the world and the true source of their unending "misery." Is it really that they are just so profoundly stupid? I know they completely lack curiosity about the world, but are they really this stupid?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

it is forever baffling to me why the cult of MAGA, now simply the GOP and their sycophant supporters, ever seem to think that "cutting government spending!" is ever going to mean that all of that savings come back to them. I know that no matter the decade and the unassailable evidence that the savings only ever go to the criminally wealthy and the ultra corrupt government criminals that run these scams (you know, that Trump family), but how is it, beyond all that we already know about targeted brainwashing of this voter base, do they still easily ignore the fact that they are only ever losing wealth why the wealthy get vastly wealthier, and these MAGATs are wholly content that it really is brown man all this time, forever and ever, that is taking the money that was promised to them?

We can point out the bullets about how all of this happens, in such a way that the founders of modern conservatism and the MAGATs orchestrated this hijacking of their brains, but it is still perplexing to me how it is so easy for them to happily ignore the plain facts in the world and the true source of their unending "misery." Is it really that they are just so profoundly stupid? I know they completely lack curiosity about the world, but are they really this stupid?

I've met some of their rank and file at the local sports bar. Not to disparage the business, the job or work, but one guy did the rough work at a lumber-yard, owned several vehicles, and his wife suddenly died -- who provided a doubling of the household income. His gripe is the taxes he pays in California. He had a mother who is becoming disabled in a manner parallel to my own Moms who died in 2023. So I told him -- before discovering his political sentiments -- how to apply to VA for spousal aid-and-attendance benefits she was due for his deceased father's military service.

Oh, he was just so grateful and elated! Then he tried to tell me what "my" president was going to do for "me". I remained polite, but explained the tariffs wouldn't help. Eventually he asked cluelessly -- "You don't think so?"

Another one was sitting next to me in the same sports bar, a young black woman, showing her intelligence, on the chair to my right. We were talking about health, and I mentioned I wanted to stay alive long enough to see some other person die, suggesting she knew damn well who I meant. Then I noted that I would go to his grave, drive an oak stake through his heart and piss on his tombstone. The man on my life changed his composure -- he seemed stunned. The conversation took a completely different track.

I think intelligent people my age are having strokes and heart-attacks over Trump's media appearances. I want this to end!

Is it the schools? Because the Christian Day schools they want people to attend are definitely not the answer, and home-schooling isn't the answer -- just passing on bigotry and idiocy from one generation to the other.

Maybe they're whining because their grandfathers -- who had union jobs when unions were much stronger -- all had Winnebago RVs in the driveway, and now this current generation are unable to take that Winnebago vacation -- no different from me, but I've tempered my expectations.

Or maybe they believe our military and gov'mint been taken over by them Fudge-packers and Carpet-lickers, and all those people want to recruit the kids for sex-change operations and gay sex.

We had segregation and racism in the 40s and 50s, but we also had The Greatest Generation. We had Eisenhower for a president, who had Honor and followed a Code, furchrissake!

I can't explain it. I can just describe it.

 

[trenchfoot]

it is forever baffling to me why the cult of MAGA, now simply the GOP and their sycophant supporters, ever seem to think that "cutting government spending!" is ever going to mean that all of that savings come back to them. I know that no matter the decade and the unassailable evidence that the savings only ever go to the criminally wealthy and the ultra corrupt government criminals that run these scams (you know, that Trump family), but how is it, beyond all that we already know about targeted brainwashing of this voter base, do they still easily ignore the fact that they are only ever losing wealth why the wealthy get vastly wealthier, and these MAGATs are wholly content that it really is brown man all this time, forever and ever, that is taking the money that was promised to them?

We can point out the bullets about how all of this happens, in such a way that the founders of modern conservatism and the MAGATs orchestrated this hijacking of their brains, but it is still perplexing to me how it is so easy for them to happily ignore the plain facts in the world and the true source of their unending "misery." Is it really that they are just so profoundly stupid? I know they completely lack curiosity about the world, but are they really this stupid?

All of MAGA wants what they are told to want. All of MAGA hate what they are told to hate. They're trained monkeys based on Pavlov's observations, yet they're also trained to believe they all came up with these implanted ideas on their own. Tell them to be racists and misogynists because it's the patriotic thing to do and they will gladly oblige with "No hay problema jefe" . Scare them with saying they are being invaded by the brown hordes and tell them to respond with a hateful bigoted fervor as a salve that soothes their troubled minds. "Fuck yeah!" Say to them that wanting good public schools, infrastructure, decent wages and benefits, affordable medical and housing is against their conservative principles because socialism is one and the same as communism and they will gladly forsake their own best interests for the sake of their mind fucked racist political and corrupted religious beliefs. Tell them that Trump was sent from Heaven to rid their towns and cities of the liberal scourge that's threatening their way of life and memes of Trump with wings sprouting from his shoulder blades and a halo above his MAGA cap miraculously appear everywhere as it was ordained and consecrated.

This is the workings of corporate conglomerates working hand in hand with our politically corrupted religious clergy whose goal is to control the nation for their own benefit. The other half of this conspiracy are the millions of dull minded lazy people who want their corporate and religious saviors to do their thinking for them to their own detriment. It's something that's horrifying yet curiously interesting to behold, yet this is the reality of people willing to live outside of reality, a hoax reality constructed to divide and conquer, to turn the masses against themselves in order to keep them from uniting and threatening the nation's aristocrats and the religious clergy's wealth and control of the people.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

All of MAGA wants what they are told to want. All of MAGA hate what they are told to hate. They're trained monkeys based on Pavlov's observations, yet they're also trained to believe they all came up with these implanted ideas on their own. Tell them to be racists and misogynists because it's the patriotic thing to do and they will gladly oblige with "No hay problema jefe" . Scare them with saying they are being invaded by the brown hordes and tell them to respond with a hateful bigoted fervor as a salve that soothes their troubled minds. "Fuck yeah!" Say to them that wanting good public schools, infrastructure, decent wages and benefits, affordable medical and housing is against their conservative principles because socialism is one and the same as communism and they will gladly forsake their own best interests for the sake of their mind fucked racist political and corrupted religious beliefs. Tell them that Trump was sent from Heaven to rid their towns and cities of the liberal scourge that's threatening their way of life and memes of Trump with wings sprouting from his shoulder blades and a halo above his MAGA cap miraculously appear everywhere as it was ordained and consecrated.

This is the workings of corporate conglomerates working hand in hand with our politically corrupted religious clergy whose goal is to control the nation for their own benefit. The other half of this conspiracy are the millions of dull minded lazy people who want their corporate and religious saviors to do their thinking for them to their own detriment. It's something that's horrifying yet curiously interesting to behold, yet this is the reality of people willing to live outside of reality, a hoax reality constructed to divide and conquer, to turn the masses against themselves in order to keep them from uniting and threatening the nation's aristocrats and the religious clergy's wealth and control of the people.

I can't add much more to that. It's really frustrating. If you want to escape the news, I recommend some multi-season series to binge-watch. there's a British 9-seasons-worth paralleling British history from 1940 to the early '50s -- "Foyle's War". "Manhattan" is a fictional plot set at Los Alamos with lesser -- possibly fictional characters -- under the real Oppenheimer.

Otherwise, we're all going to be fatigued with news-overload and Trump-toxification.

But what a descent it's been, and suddenly. There was once Ike, JFK and LBJ, the Bushes and Obama. More or less Men of Honor. Now we have a criminal set loose. Nixon's criminality was nothing compared to this guy.

 

[DaaQ]

All of MAGA wants what they are told to want. All of MAGA hate what they are told to hate. They're trained monkeys based on Pavlov's observations, yet they're also trained to believe they all came up with these implanted ideas on their own. Tell them to be racists and misogynists because it's the patriotic thing to do and they will gladly oblige with "No hay problema jefe" . Scare them with saying they are being invaded by the brown hordes and tell them to respond with a hateful bigoted fervor as a salve that soothes their troubled minds. "Fuck yeah!" Say to them that wanting good public schools, infrastructure, decent wages and benefits, affordable medical and housing is against their conservative principles because socialism is one and the same as communism and they will gladly forsake their own best interests for the sake of their mind fucked racist political and corrupted religious beliefs. Tell them that Trump was sent from Heaven to rid their towns and cities of the liberal scourge that's threatening their way of life and memes of Trump with wings sprouting from his shoulder blades and a halo above his MAGA cap miraculously appear everywhere as it was ordained and consecrated.

This is the workings of corporate conglomerates working hand in hand with our politically corrupted religious clergy whose goal is to control the nation for their own benefit. The other half of this conspiracy are the millions of dull minded lazy people who want their corporate and religious saviors to do their thinking for them to their own detriment. It's something that's horrifying yet curiously interesting to behold, yet this is the reality of people willing to live outside of reality, a hoax reality constructed to divide and conquer, to turn the masses against themselves in order to keep them from uniting and threatening the nation's aristocrats and the religious clergy's wealth and control of the people.

I live half the year in a place where wealthy ppl come in and expect you to do miracles for them. I would rather service a single wide trailer than a 1-2mil dollar home.

I am out of the residences now, so I can just tell them they have to pay to get cable run to their house they put 500 ft off the road.

 

[hal2kilo]

I live half the year in a place where wealthy ppl come in and expect you to do miracles for them. I would rather service a single wide trailer than a 1-2mil dollar home.

I am out of the residences now, so I can just tell them they have to pay to get cable run to their house they put 500 ft off the road.

My mom worked as a bookkeeper for a few years at a music store. She said the biggest dead beats were professionals like doctors and lawyers.

 

[misuspita]

I think USA needs to do a Kennedy again.

 

[DaaQ]

I think USA needs to do a Kennedy again.

Kennedys are tainted.

 

[HomerJS]

I think USA needs to do a Kennedy again.

Even more satisfying a Mussolini

 

[trenchfoot]

Trump's Big Beautiful Bill couldn't have come at a better time to expose how his miserably failed crackdown on waste, fraud and abuse was a ruse all along and how he exploited that equally transparent DOGE head hunting party of his as a means to benefit himself and his billionaire buddies.

You'd think Trump's dumbed down working class stooges would take a hint from the Big Beautiful Scrawlings on his Big Beautiful Boondoggled Wall down south and realize how they've been for years played as the suckers they are to Trump's using them as a means to make mountains of cash for himself and his family members at their expense. If that bloodsucking bill passes they are going to come face to face with that reality and I have every confidence they will let all of it sail over their heads just like Trump's criminal and morally bankrupt rap sheet and miserable work record.

 

[IronWing]

I think USA needs to do a Kennedy again.

If you mean, “add another member to the punk band“, I’m not opposed.

 

[pauldun170]

Those who are believers of Trump on this issue, if it is true how do you square DOGE not dealing with...

Spending over 1B to retrofit a B747 when we already have 2 working AF1s?
Trump breaking the record for spending on Presidential golf trips in < 6 months where it took Obama 8 years to amass?
Spending 50-150M on a military parade which we haven't had in the past except the ending of a war.

How can you claim he is really interested in cutting WFA in light of these expenditures?

Dude...
They dont process such things.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Kennedys are tainted.

He means a cell-phone Zapruder remake. Surely you know who Abraham Zapruder was, don't you?

The hitters in '63 tried to preserve Kennedy's face. I'd like to see the opposite, for Red State Prime Time and Sesame Street re-run.

It's been many hours since the discovery of the Minnesota murders, and the identification of Vance Boelter. Trump hasn't said one damn thing approaching what you would expect from a leader.

 

[HomerJS]

It's been many hours since the discovery of the Minnesota murders, and the identification of Vance Boelter. Trump hasn't said one damn thing approaching what you would expect from a leader.

Or someone with a conscience

 

[esquared]

Or someone with a conscience

He's trying to find a way to blame a Democrat for the murders. Or at least antifa.

 

[iRONic]

Kennedys are tainted.

I think USA needs to do a Kennedy again.

Fuck Joe Kennedy!

 

[DaaQ]

He means a cell-phone Zapruder remake. Surely you know who Abraham Zapruder was, don't you?

The hitters in '63 tried to preserve Kennedy's face. I'd like to see the opposite, for Red State Prime Time and Sesame Street re-run.

It's been many hours since the discovery of the Minnesota murders, and the identification of Vance Boelter. Trump hasn't said one damn thing approaching what you would expect from a leader.

No I did not. Not alive in the 60s.

I took it literal as in there probably will not be another JFK and Ted was barely palpable.

I just think that the Kennedy Family's legacy has become too tainted. IMO.

I agree with your 3rd sentence. I plead ignorance on the first two.