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AmerDoux

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I think unemployment has a clause that excludes us from collecting in these situations, specifically because the budget is a clusterfuck every year.

In the past Golden 1 Credit Union has done zero interest loans to state employees when there is no paycheck. To get the zero interest loan, you must have direct deposit in place for three months. Otherwise, they will charge you 5% interest.
 

gaidensensei

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No way man, those guys have a big headache to deal with everyday I can imagine. It's the CA highways we are talking about.

Where accidents, crazy people, chinese drivers await and grace your presence on a day to day basis when you merge onto the highway.
 

olds

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No way man, those guys have a big headache to deal with everyday I can imagine. It's the CA highways we are talking about.

Where accidents, crazy people, chinese drivers await and grace your presence on a day to day basis when you merge onto the highway.

LOL
Not much money goes for maintenance any more. I think they want the roads to fall apart. It's embarrassing to work for the highway department.
We can't do any jobs over $25k, it has to be contracted out. Yet whenever most people see someone on the highway, they assume it's us. Doesn't matter if it's a state/county/city road.

When I started on highway 50 in 1990, they had two crews of 9 each. They had all they equipment they needed. Now it's a 6 man crew and half the time you have to rent equipment.
More average daily traffic and less crew/equipment/maintenance money. Do the math.
 

gaidensensei

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Wrecked state of affairs for CA, sad to hear what's going on behind the crew responsible for our roads.

I've always wondered why they don't fix that patch of crappy stretch of road that goes from from the interstate 5 from norcal to around downtown LA. Everytime going that way, I always cringe at the different kwarrr-rrrrrr noise the tires make.

Not sure wtf is going on with the money. I can't apply for post-baccalaureate education the past two years due to the budget crisis going on with the state institutions.
 

Fear No Evil

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Its nice you plan on punishing taxpayers even though you will get your full salary once the budget is passed.
 

Fear No Evil

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Last I checked it was the tax payers that elects these idiots.

I see.. since 51% of the taxpayers elected whomever, its OK for the employees of said elected people screw 100% of the taxpayers out of spite. I guess by that logic Olds should just accept the furlough's and pay cuts because he elected these 'idiots'.
 

gaidensensei

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I don't think I can live on making $7.25 an hour. With that kind of wage single I don't even know where I can live with that money. That's like downtown LA, crenshaw or inglewood or all the way out nowhere in lancaster.
 

Fear No Evil

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I don't think I can live on making $7.25 an hour. With that kind of wage single I don't even know where I can live with that money. That's like downtown LA, crenshaw or inglewood or all the way out nowhere in lancaster.

As he indicated its temporary until the budget is passed and he will get his back wages. Will definitely SUCK, but it would suck worse if he lost the money.
 

olds

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Its nice you plan on punishing taxpayers even though you will get your full salary once the budget is passed.
Even a buffoon can figure out you'd have to pay it back.

Where they taxpayers will really get screwed is if we win our lawsuit and they have to pay us our back wages plus interest. Maybe even treble damages.

But that's what happens when you elect a Pete Wilson puppet and take illegal job actions.
Anyone else with half a brain would have started lay offs first. That's legal. But let me lay out a couple of scenarios:
Layoffs - People are laid off, since we are 47/50 in employees per capita, services will suffer. Fix; hire more employees. Kind of defeats the purpose of law offs.

Reduce new employee benefits - Less skilled people apply, work force suffers, state wakes up and offers better pay/benefits to get better employees. They get 10% more, I too get 10% more.

Right now, retirements are up 30%. People will jump ship (retire) in droves if they think we will go to min wage. Those people, while higher paid, know their job and will take a lot of experience with them.

I know it's cool to bag on state employees and I really am fine with that. But many people are ill informed on what actually is really going on. (Hint, arnie lost a couple of propositions and this is pay back.)

The econmy tanked because of the private sector greed.

That and the state decided to defer their payments into our retirement system (we had to continue to pay monthly) and now the bill is coming due. BOX OF ROCKS.
 

Bignate603

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Paying $7.25/hour is crazy, if that goes on for any period of time they'll start making people lose their houses or getting their cars repossessed.
 

AlienCraft

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If anyone thinks for a minute that Meg Whitman will be able to do any better with her "run it like a business" mindset, they are sorely mistaken.
She has the same Pete Wilson Team that Arnie had.
She forgets that there is an entire Senate and Assembly with their own agenda, and she's not a part of either Party's grand plan.
Unless she has a private militia she plans on landing the instant she wins, she is relying on the mass' stupidity to elect her.
 

RichieZ

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so i don't know exactly what you do, but when I was a consultant and we did public sector projects the state employees we worked with didn't exactly do a whole lot.
 

RaistlinZ

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If anyone thinks for a minute that Meg Whitman will be able to do any better with her "run it like a business" mindset, they are sorely mistaken.
She has the same Pete Wilson Team that Arnie had.
She forgets that there is an entire Senate and Assembly with their own agenda, and she's not a part of either Party's grand plan.
Unless she has a private militia she plans on landing the instant she wins, she is relying on the mass' stupidity to elect her.

So true. People often don't realize it's the Senate and Assembly where awful ideas usually spawn.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Come July 1st my employer, the great state of kalifornia, will likely drop my pay to the Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. Since I make substantially more than that, can I collect any kind of unemployment insurance?
We will get back pay when the budget gets passed but I'd really like to stick it to the man.
(ya, I know, good luck with that)

It'll never happen. :p
 

AmerDoux

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Dec 4, 2001
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Even a buffoon can figure out you'd have to pay it back.

Where they taxpayers will really get screwed is if we win our lawsuit and they have to pay us our back wages plus interest. Maybe even treble damages.

But that's what happens when you elect a Pete Wilson puppet and take illegal job actions.
Anyone else with half a brain would have started lay offs first. That's legal. But let me lay out a couple of scenarios:
Layoffs - People are laid off, since we are 47/50 in employees per capita, services will suffer. Fix; hire more employees. Kind of defeats the purpose of law offs.

Reduce new employee benefits - Less skilled people apply, work force suffers, state wakes up and offers better pay/benefits to get better employees. They get 10% more, I too get 10% more.

Right now, retirements are up 30%. People will jump ship (retire) in droves if they think we will go to min wage. Those people, while higher paid, know their job and will take a lot of experience with them.

I know it's cool to bag on state employees and I really am fine with that. But many people are ill informed on what actually is really going on. (Hint, arnie lost a couple of propositions and this is pay back.)

The econmy tanked because of the private sector greed.

That and the state decided to defer their payments into our retirement system (we had to continue to pay monthly) and now the bill is coming due. BOX OF ROCKS.

If the state chooses to layoff state employees they are required to first cancel all of the private contracts/contractors. They wont do that.

I would really like to see a news article that talks about the percent of General Funds that are used to pay state employees versus the amount used to pay private contractors for the same work. I think the public would be in for a big shock if they knew how much of their tax dollars was going towards paying private contractors. Bagging on the state workers is a wedge issue to keep everyone from noticing the real problem - the outrageous amount of money being paid to private contracts.
 

Slew Foot

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If anyone thinks for a minute that Meg Whitman will be able to do any better with her "run it like a business" mindset, they are sorely mistaken.
She has the same Pete Wilson Team that Arnie had.
She forgets that there is an entire Senate and Assembly with their own agenda, and she's not a part of either Party's grand plan.
Unless she has a private militia she plans on landing the instant she wins, she is relying on the mass' stupidity to elect her.


The obvious solution is to hire the Democrat mayor of the murder capital of the country to raise everyone taxes 100% so that state employees can retire at 35 with full pension :rolleyes:
 

EagleKeeper

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If your hours are cut back; you may be able to file for unemployemnt.

If your hourly pay is cut; you are still employed full time - no joy
 

ultimatebob

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California should just raise the taxes on "medical" Marijuana by 50&#37;... that alone should be enough revenue to erase the budget shortfall :)
 

Locut0s

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I understand that Kalifornia has one of the higher minimum wages in the US. $7.25 is actually closer to us than I would have though, it's $8/hr here.

At any rate sorry to hear that. Hope you find some form of compensation. California is one of the few states in the US I could see living in, others include NY (proabbly only NT City), WA, OR, but it must suck to be in a bankrupt state :(