Being Overweight Seriously Effects the Quality of Your Sperm

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Size May Matter When It Comes to Sperm
By MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP

PHILADELPHIA (Oct. 21) - Beer bellies may take a toll on men below the belt, not just around it.

Men who weigh too much are more likely to have poor sperm quality, research on nearly 1,600 young Danish men has found. Being too thin is a problem, too.

Women don't get off the hook. Though it's long been known that very overweight women have trouble conceiving naturally, a large new study confirms they also are less likely to become pregnant even when embryos are fertilized in lab dishes and placed in their wombs.

"Among the severely obese, we saw significantly reduced implantation and pregnancy rates,'' said Dr. David Ryley of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston. He presented results of the women's study this week at a meeting of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine.

The sperm study was done by doctors at various hospitals and universities in Denmark and published in the October issue of the reproductive society's journal, Fertility & Sterility.

It involved 1,558 men, average age 19, who volunteered to give a semen sample during mandatory exams to determine their fitness for military service in two cities, Copenhagen and Aalborg.

Sperm counts, sperm concentration, semen volume and other measures of sperm quality such as shape and motility were measured, along with testicle size and hormone levels. Researchers also calculated each man's body mass index, a measure of obesity that takes into account height and weight.

Scores for men with healthy BMIs - between 20 and 25, or 139 to 174 pounds for a man who is 5-foot-10 - were compared to those of men above and below that range.

Sperm counts and sperm concentration were 28.1 percent and 36.4 percent lower respectively in underweight men. The same measures were 21.6 percent and 23.9 percent lower respectively in overweight men.

Why this may be happening is unclear.

"Low BMI can result from a 'healthy lifestyle' but may also be due to many chronic diseases,'' the authors write.

The biological explanation or mechanism also may be different in underweight and overweight men, they note.

"It may be an alteration in hormonal values,'' said Dr. Anthony J. Thomas Jr., a Cleveland Clinic urologist who is president of the Society for Male Reproduction and Urology and was not involved in the study.

Men produce and need a certain amount of the female hormone estrogen. Fat cells produce estrogen, so too much or too little of it may be a problem.

"There's a balance, and that balance is the milieu in which sperm develops,'' Anthony said.

Other research suggests that smoking and heavy alcohol use also harm sperm production, he said. The new study is a reminder that doctors should always check a man for signs of infertility when couples are having trouble getting pregnant because the problem is just as likely to involve men as women.

"It's not uncommon for a man to come in after his wife has had a million tests'' and then discovered to have sperm problems, Thomas said. "It's probably one of the first things a doctor should do.''

The other study on women involved 5,847 attempts at in vitro fertilization in which embryos are fertilized in a lab dish, at Beth Israel's infertility clinic, Boston IVF.

Obese women - whose BMIs were 35 and over - had little more than a 1 in 5 chance of becoming pregnant through IVF; the odds were better than 1 in 4 for women with healthy weights. Embryos were also less likely to implant in the fat women.

Overweight women have irregular periods and lower ovulation rates, making it harder for them to get pregnant naturally, Ryley said. When given fertility treatments, they often need higher doses of drugs and for a longer time to spur ovulation, he said.

His study didn't find that very thin women had more trouble conceiving as some previous research has suggested.
 

Amused

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Soooo, being fat is a built in contraceptive on many levels?
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
None of you fatties are concerned?

The more you weigh, the less likely you are to use the sperm anyways. I think they have more important things to be concerned about.
 

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Originally posted by: gigapet
natures way of eliminating fatties from the gene pool. Hooray for nature!

It doesn't make sense, though. It's usually the fatties I see with the most rugrats in tow.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: gigapet
natures way of eliminating fatties from the gene pool. Hooray for nature!

It doesn't make sense, though. It's usually the fatties I see with the most rugrats in tow.

there are exceptions to every rule. I'm sure pumping out 6 rugrats will do nasty things to your wasteline
 

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: gigapet
natures way of eliminating fatties from the gene pool. Hooray for nature!

It doesn't make sense, though. It's usually the fatties I see with the most rugrats in tow.

there are exceptions to every rule. I'm sure pumping out 6 rugrats will do nasty things to your wasteline

Even the hubby?
 

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Anything that lowers the chances of a paternity lawsuit is a good thing.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: gigapet
natures way of eliminating fatties from the gene pool. Hooray for nature!

It doesn't make sense, though. It's usually the fatties I see with the most rugrats in tow.

there are exceptions to every rule. I'm sure pumping out 6 rugrats will do nasty things to your wasteline

Even the hubby?

could have put on the weight post children or have an abnormally potent sperm emmissions
 

Argo

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I've been always told that my sperm is of extremely high quality. Now I know why ;)
 

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i wonder why they calculated that stupid BMI thing rather than just measuring body fat during the exam?
 

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Having been overweight at one time, it infuriates me that all are having your fun making fun of those that overweight. Most, not all, but most people who are overweight have other circumstances and it should be considered a physical and mental problem, just like smoking and drinking. It's like making an alcholaholic thread andf then saying it would be good if all the alcoholics died. Gigapet, you are so pathetic, I won't even begin to describe the stupidity of what you said. While this may be a problem concerning people who are overweight and their reproductive ability, it should motviate you to help someone you know who is overweight, and not ridicule them and brag about how they are going die and have no offspring.
 

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Originally posted by: Farvacola
Having been overweight at one time, it infuriates me that all are having your fun making fun of those that overweight. Most, not all, but most people who are overweight have other circumstances and it should be considered a physical and mental problem, just like smoking and drinking. It's like making an alcholaholic thread andf then saying it would be good if all the alcoholics died. Gigapet, you are so pathetic, I won't even begin to describe the stupidity of what you said. While this may be a problem concerning people who are overweight and their reproductive ability, it should motviate you to help someone you know who is overweight, and not ridicule them and brag about how they are going die and have no offspring.
With all due respect, I disagree. Food and alcohol are NOT the same kind of thing. There have always been alcoholics, there have always been fat people, but suddenly there's been an explosion of obesity in the last 10-15 years. I'm not saying it's okay to mock those with a weight problem, but I'm certianly not going to listen to them make stupid excuses for themselves either.

 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
i wonder why they calculated that stupid BMI thing rather than just measuring body fat during the exam?
BMI is quicker, easier, and the average Joe can do it in their home. Yes, it's inaccurate for some people, but those people are probably well aware of its inaccuracy in their case. It has always been my opinion that the point of BMI is for a physician to have a concrete number to give a patient to put their weight in perspective for them. Too many people are in a constant "I'm not all that fat" state of denial and I think BMI is there to help them get around that.

 

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Farvacola
Having been overweight at one time, it infuriates me that all are having your fun making fun of those that overweight. Most, not all, but most people who are overweight have other circumstances and it should be considered a physical and mental problem, just like smoking and drinking. It's like making an alcholaholic thread andf then saying it would be good if all the alcoholics died. Gigapet, you are so pathetic, I won't even begin to describe the stupidity of what you said. While this may be a problem concerning people who are overweight and their reproductive ability, it should motviate you to help someone you know who is overweight, and not ridicule them and brag about how they are going die and have no offspring.
With all due respect, I disagree. Food and alcohol are NOT the same kind of thing. There have always been alcoholics, there have always been fat people, but suddenly there's been an explosion of obesity in the last 10-15 years. I'm not saying it's okay to mock those with a weight problem, but I'm certianly not going to listen to them make stupid excuses for themselves either.

I understand exactly what you are saying and I agree. It has to some degree been the fault of society when to concerns the explosion of obesity in America. There was an explosion of alcoholics after WW2, but no one talked about social issues back then. Like I said, a lot of people who are overwieght have tried to change their lives and do everything in their power to lose weight, for some, it is an addiction. But, as of late, we have heard some really lame excuses concerning being overweight.
 

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Originally posted by: Farvacola
Having been overweight at one time, it infuriates me that all are having your fun making fun of those that overweight. Most, not all, but most people who are overweight have other circumstances and it should be considered a physical and mental problem, just like smoking and drinking. It's like making an alcholaholic thread andf then saying it would be good if all the alcoholics died. Gigapet, you are so pathetic, I won't even begin to describe the stupidity of what you said. While this may be a problem concerning people who are overweight and their reproductive ability, it should motviate you to help someone you know who is overweight, and not ridicule them and brag about how they are going die and have no offspring.

not everybody should breed i'm sorry you dont feel that way. especially if you have physical and mental problems. stop making excuses fatty.

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my bad...with all the swearing and direct insults that have been going on i didnt realize fatty was a nono. I get called vular names almost on a daily basis worse than this. but i will no longer use the word fatty towards someone. lesson learned. Thank you for your kindness in warning me first.
 

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Originally posted by: Farvacola
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Farvacola
Having been overweight at one time, it infuriates me that all are having your fun making fun of those that overweight. Most, not all, but most people who are overweight have other circumstances and it should be considered a physical and mental problem, just like smoking and drinking. It's like making an alcholaholic thread andf then saying it would be good if all the alcoholics died. Gigapet, you are so pathetic, I won't even begin to describe the stupidity of what you said. While this may be a problem concerning people who are overweight and their reproductive ability, it should motviate you to help someone you know who is overweight, and not ridicule them and brag about how they are going die and have no offspring.
With all due respect, I disagree. Food and alcohol are NOT the same kind of thing. There have always been alcoholics, there have always been fat people, but suddenly there's been an explosion of obesity in the last 10-15 years. I'm not saying it's okay to mock those with a weight problem, but I'm certianly not going to listen to them make stupid excuses for themselves either.

I understand exactly what you are saying and I agree. It has to some degree been the fault of society when to concerns the explosion of obesity in America. There was an explosion of alcoholics after WW2, but no one talked about social issues back then. Like I said, a lot of people who are overwieght have tried to change their lives and do everything in their power to lose weight, for some, it is an addiction. But, as of late, we have heard some really lame excuses concerning being overweight.
See, that's where I disagree with you; food isn't an addiction in the same sense as something like alcohol or nicotine. Sure, you get a nice little endorphin rush from eating, but you don't have the same kind of physical withdrawl symptoms as with certain drugs. I think it's mostly that people get to a certain point where losing the weight seems so insurmountable that they're to discouraged to try......and comfort themselves with more food.

Trust me, I know how hard it is to lose weight, but I also know that it basically just takes willpower and 90% of the time there's no good reason someone can't be healthy.

 

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Gigapet: I'm sorry you lack the maturity to formulate a reasonable reply to this thread, but thanks for trying. We all really appreciate it.
 

Farvacola

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Farvacola
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Farvacola
Having been overweight at one time, it infuriates me that all are having your fun making fun of those that overweight. Most, not all, but most people who are overweight have other circumstances and it should be considered a physical and mental problem, just like smoking and drinking. It's like making an alcholaholic thread andf then saying it would be good if all the alcoholics died. Gigapet, you are so pathetic, I won't even begin to describe the stupidity of what you said. While this may be a problem concerning people who are overweight and their reproductive ability, it should motviate you to help someone you know who is overweight, and not ridicule them and brag about how they are going die and have no offspring.
With all due respect, I disagree. Food and alcohol are NOT the same kind of thing. There have always been alcoholics, there have always been fat people, but suddenly there's been an explosion of obesity in the last 10-15 years. I'm not saying it's okay to mock those with a weight problem, but I'm certianly not going to listen to them make stupid excuses for themselves either.

I understand exactly what you are saying and I agree. It has to some degree been the fault of society when to concerns the explosion of obesity in America. There was an explosion of alcoholics after WW2, but no one talked about social issues back then. Like I said, a lot of people who are overwieght have tried to change their lives and do everything in their power to lose weight, for some, it is an addiction. But, as of late, we have heard some really lame excuses concerning being overweight.
See, that's where I disagree with you; food isn't an addiction in the same sense as something like alcohol or nicotine. Sure, you get a nice little endorphin rush from eating, but you don't have the same kind of physical withdrawl symptoms as with certain drugs. I think it's mostly that people get to a certain point where losing the weight seems so insurmountable that they're to discouraged to try......and comfort themselves with more food.

Trust me, I know how hard it is to lose weight, but I also know that it basically just takes willpower and 90% of the time there's no good reason someone can't be healthy.
I can respect that, at least you have intelligent back up for your arguement, on the other hand gigapet can even seem to say anything but fatty, so I believe it would be prudent to not give that fool the time of day.
 

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I'm overweight since quitting smoking and am concerned about loosing some of my excess fat, but I am NOT concerned at all about the quality or quantity of my sperm since my vas deferens were clipped years ago. This has not affectied my ability to perform or please the countless women who clammer after me..... ;)