Being a douche or doing the right thing?

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amdforever2

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Let's say I worked in a heavily regulated industry. I'm not important per se, but the industry is one with lots of.......rules. Let's also say I have coworkers I associated with outside of work and I come into the knowledge that a coworker is working at work illegally.

For example, working with an expired student visa. Not even in the country legally.


Do I have a duty to report this information to human resources?

Should I do nothing?

If I do nothing, and the company finds out I had knowledge of this, can I be reprimanded or terminated for it?
 
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xanis

Lifer
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Why wouldn't you do it? They're here illegally, it's their fault and they should be terminated.
 
Whoozyerdaddy

Whoozyerdaddy

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I can't stand people being here illegally.

That said... even if you reported him I doubt anything would happen.
 
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Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: amdforever2
Let's say I worked in a heavily regulated industry. I'm not important per se, but the industry is one with lots of.......rules. Let's also say I have coworkers I associated with outside of work and I come into the knowledge that a coworker is working at work illegally.

For example, working with an expired student visa. Not even in the country legally.


Do I have a duty to report this information to human resources?

Should I do nothing?

If I do nothing, and the company finds out I had knowledge of this, can I be reprimanded or terminated for it?
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Tough call. How would the company find out you had knowledge of this? How are they able to charge him taxes on his paycheck if he's here illegally? Wouldn't that raise red flags? Or is he paid under the table?
 
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SlitheryDee

Is there a regulation that explicitly states that workers are required to inform their superiors about violations to company regulations under penalty of disciplinary action or termination?
 
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2Dead

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leave it be, its not your concern unless its like Top Secret gov. stuff.
 
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amdforever2

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I don't know what the rules are.

I do know asking some question like "heyyyy lets say I know someone is working here illegally, do I have to tell?" "YES" "oh well........thats good to know" isn't going to come off as unsuspicious.

It doesn't affect me at all.


How this person got through background check I don't know. They provided school transcripts and stuff.
 
Nik

Nik

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Originally posted by: amdforever2
Let's say I worked in a heavily regulated industry. I'm not important per se, but the industry is one with lots of.......rules. Let's also say I have coworkers I associated with outside of work and I come into the knowledge that a coworker is working at work illegally.

For example, working with an expired student visa. Not even in the country legally.


Do I have a duty to report this information to human resources?

Should I do nothing?

If I do nothing, and the company finds out I had knowledge of this, can I be reprimanded or terminated for it?
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You should do the right thing. The scariest thing about criminals breaking the law isn't the criminals, but the society that stands by and ignores it.

Always always always always always adnauseum do the right thing.
 
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rgwalt

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I don't think anyone could ever prove that you knew something was going on illegally. That being said, I would probably send an anonymous note to HR indicating that they should check the status of the person's visa. If they are a good worker, perhaps the company could get the person a work visa.

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amdforever2

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The person claimed they were a US citizen throughout hiring process.


The persons SSN doesn't appear foreign.
 
BoomerD

BoomerD

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You aren't likely to get into trouble, unless it's a gov't program, but you SHOULD do the right thing and let HR know that the person's visa is expired...
 
DainBramaged

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: amdforever2
The person claimed they were a US citizen throughout hiring process.


The persons SSN doesn't appear foreign.
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Out of curiosity, what nationality to you believe them to be?
 
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compnovice

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Originally posted by: amdforever2
The person claimed they were a US citizen throughout hiring process.


The persons SSN doesn't appear foreign.
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Is it supposed to be different ?
 
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SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The person claimed they were a US citizen throughout hiring process.


The persons SSN doesn't appear foreign.
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What do foreign SSN look like? Oh and how did you come to know that they weren't legal citizens?
 
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SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: amdforever2
How do I know?

They told me.


They trusted me because we're friends.
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Ok this is a whole new can of worms... You are currently friends, but you're considering telling your company that your friend is an illegal worker. What brought this on?
 
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BigJ

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Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
Originally posted by: amdforever2
How do I know?

They told me.


They trusted me because we're friends.
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Ok this is a whole new can of worms... You are currently friends, but you're considering telling your company that your friend is an illegal worker. What brought this on?
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He's a real piece of sh!t if he winds up ratting on his friend.
 
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LuNoTiCK

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Originally posted by: amdforever2
How do I know?

They told me.


They trusted me because we're friends.
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I don't see a reason to tell, why should some people be allowed here and others not.. But imagine that, trusting someone and than you rat them out like that.
 
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