BEHOLD! The king of kings is revealed!

[Regs]

And it has been going through validaton for AMD's dual core... That thing will cost well over 300 dollars. Just for a chipset!

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Regs
And it has been going through validaton for AMD's dual core... That thing will cost well over 300 dollars. Just for a chipset!

My 2885 was (and still is) over $400 (423.50 on newegg if they had it in stock). Yes, I missed the PCI slot between the other two, but if I got it it would only be for SLI, and then I couldn;t use my audigy. I won;t be going that way... And the Iwill ? I will wait and see. Does it have PCI-X ? Looks like it, but it would need an 8131 chip for the PCI-X tunnel.

 

[Chaotic42]

Ahem, repost 😀

:beer:

 

[Pariah]

And, yes this board has a standard 32-bit PCI slot, but if you look at the picture of the board layout you'll note that it is in a most inconvenient location: sandwiched between the two x16 slots. So if you are going SLI with this board (especially with dual slot cards) you can probably kiss that PCI slot goodbye.

Would depend on the video cards. Any single slot video card would probably not pose a problem, as the SLI connector would give enough clearance for all but the "fattest" cards to fit underneath. Dual slot cards like the 6800 Ultra would likely render the slot useless.

Not that any of this really matters. The inferior IWill board link above is selling for $800+ in Europe, so lord knows what Tyan will be charging here. $600 or more would not surprise me. These are top of the line workstation boards, not enthusiast products, so ridiculous pricing is the expected.

 

[Regs]

300 dollars was a large under estimate...lol. I'm thinking SLI PCI-E boards. Grant it, it's not going to improve gaming. AMD quoted saying that you are better off buying a fast single core solution. Not unless AMD decides to pack on a little extra to each core.

 

[Dubb]

apparently some places are taking pre-orders. ~$550 w/ SCSI, ~$470 without.

sigh....someday.

 

[batmanuel]

Originally posted by: Dubb
apparently some places are taking pre-orders. ~$550 w/ SCSI, ~$470 without.

sigh....someday.

Considering the prices of Operton 248s and 250s, that pricing isn't unreasonable (any of the slower Opteron models would probably be a waste for this board since it will most likely lack overclocking options). Can't help to wonder if the lack of x1 or x4 connectors could be a liability from the standpoint of long term upgradability if PCIe ever catches on at the enterprise level for SCSI and other high bandwidth add in cards.

 

[ribbon13]

I doubt it. PCI-X 133mhz/64bit is more than enough bandwidth for any sever. At that point its better to have multiple servers and multiple disk controllers. The point of blades. =D

 

[dds14u]

It's like a city...

max 16gb RAM? hehe.

 

[ribbon13]

16GB isn't confirmed
It may only be 8GB

It's in the manual, page 25

 

[ribbon13]

Originally sent to a friend by: Tyan Sales
Dear xxxxxxx,
The S2895 should be shipping soon, and you should start to see them appear on on-line stores the middle of March. That's my best guesstimate.
BTW, we have some key partners that evaluate our product before public release. We gather feedback from them, then incorporate changes before we do mass production. Simultaneously, our manufacturing/engineering facilities in Asia were shut-down for two weeks for Chinese New Year. Thus, we had unfortunate delays to incorporate the changes, then manufacture the boards. We then have to ship them to the States for Distribution. Sorry for the delay!



Sincerely,
Tyan Sales

Recently confirmed USB2, 16GB, and 1000HT
http://tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8we_spec.html

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: batmanuel

Originally posted by: Dubb
apparently some places are taking pre-orders. ~$550 w/ SCSI, ~$470 without.

sigh....someday.

Considering the prices of Operton 248s and 250s, that pricing isn't unreasonable (any of the slower Opteron models would probably be a waste for this board since it will most likely lack overclocking options). Can't help to wonder if the lack of x1 or x4 connectors could be a liability from the standpoint of long term upgradability if PCIe ever catches on at the enterprise level for SCSI and other high bandwidth add in cards.

I will take my PCI-X over 4x pci-e. The 133 mhz 64bit PCI-X slot is about = pci-e 8x, and even the 100 mhz slots are probably ~ 6x(I think it has 2 of those) so it has more than enough. I would rather have that than pci-e 4x, thats why they have PCI-X instead.

 

[ribbon13]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
I will take my PCI-X over 4x pci-e. The 133 mhz 64bit PCI-X slot is about = pci-e 8x, and even the 100 mhz slots are probably ~ 6x(I think it has 2 of those) so it has more than enough. I would rather have that than pci-e 4x, thats why they have PCI-X instead.

Mee too! The Tyan has two PCI-X busses too, so PCI cards are a go with SLI.

The next architecture shift for servers will be SAS, and you can be damn sure that SAS will appear on PCI-X. And you can take your SATA drives with you. (and for those like me, their NEC 3520a on a SATA adapter)

In the mean time... The shizznittus maximus of SATA HBAs

 

[dhoytw]

Yo that's one bad mamajama.

 

[Markfw]

Well, that controller is OK, but I will put my money on 8 15k SCSI drives in a multiuser environment anyday over 8 7200 or even 10k SATA drives......

 

[jose]

Check this out !! SAS & Sata combined ..

http://theinquirer.org/default.aspx?article=18486

Regards,
Jose

 

[Big Bunny]

Originally posted by: fkloster
lol @ all the noobs who spent 6k to 8k on their Asus SLI setups only discover THIS PUNISHING platform lurking just around the corner!!! :shocked:

Wow, a moron twice over in one post! First point is that you'd have to work pretty friggin hard to spend even $4k on any nForce4 SLI setup. Second is that this is not a gamer's or enthusiast's machine, this is for professional use. That means CAD, high-end graphics processing, and the like. In that situation, sure, $6-8k is a resonable workstation cost, but there's little currently little reason for two CPUs in most any professional software usage besides ability to multitask. This will be a nice machine for the future generations of software that take advantage of 64-bit architecture.

I would guess 16 GB had to be their RAM target, since it has to compete with UNIX boxes that will run that much.

 

[fkloster]

Originally posted by: Big Bunny

Originally posted by: fkloster
lol @ all the noobs who spent 6k to 8k on their Asus SLI setups only discover THIS PUNISHING platform lurking just around the corner!!! :shocked:

Wow, a moron twice over in one post! First point is that you'd have to work pretty friggin hard to spend even $4k on any nForce4 SLI setup. Second is that this is not a gamer's or enthusiast's machine, this is for professional use. That means CAD, high-end graphics processing, and the like. In that situation, sure, $6-8k is a resonable workstation cost, but there's little currently little reason for two CPUs in most any professional software usage besides ability to multitask. This will be a nice machine for the future generations of software that take advantage of 64-bit architecture.

I would guess 16 GB had to be their RAM target, since it has to compete with UNIX boxes that will run that much.

Listen clown, when I originally posted this thread back in January... plenty of people were paying close to $300 for SLI boards and buying ebay 6800 GT PCI-X cards for almost 700 a piece... big fancy sony LCDs and the such. Paying well over 6k for bleeding edge technology. This board could very easily be used by extreme gamers who have cash. If I were standing in front of you right now I would bitch-slap your face for calling me a moron...

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: fkloster
lol @ all the noobs who spent 6k to 8k on their Asus SLI setups only discover THIS PUNISHING platform lurking just around the corner!!! :shocked:

Wow! Did anybody actually spend this much on an SLI system?? I just built one last month and for that kinda money I could have built about 7 of them. And the only thing I did not buy new was a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. I am still planning to add a new monitor and I am willing to spend about $500 for it since it will be something I can reuse on future systems. But still. . .where did you come up with $6K - $8K?? That is obsurd! By the time I buy a decent new monitor, my Asus A8N SLI deluxe system will come in just shy of $2K.

 

[CraigRT]

Wow, that is friggin wicked.

 

[fkloster]

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: fkloster
lol @ all the noobs who spent 6k to 8k on their Asus SLI setups only discover THIS PUNISHING platform lurking just around the corner!!! :shocked:

Wow! Did anybody actually spend this much on an SLI system?? I just built one last month and for that kinda money I could have built about 7 of them. And the only thing I did not buy new was a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. I am still planning to add a new monitor and I am willing to spend about $500 for it since it will be something I can reuse on future systems. But still. . .where did you come up with $6K - $8K?? That is obsurd! By the time I buy a decent new monitor, my Asus A8N SLI deluxe system will come in just shy of $2K.

(sigh) for the last time, I was referencing all of the kids who loaded their Asus SLI system w/....
1) Asus SLI mobo $295 (@ the time of post)
2) Twin 6800 GT or Ultra PCI-X $1400 min (@ the time of post)
3) $100 power supply min
4) $50 case
5) Twin raptors $365
6) FX-55 $895
7) 1 GB memory $250
ect ect... $365 speakers $800 flat screen lcd sony 21" ect

 

[Big Bunny]

VEERYYYY SCARY! Grow up and take your physical threats out to the playground where they may actually mean a damn.

Regardless, you must not be adding well because all of that still adds up to well under $5k -- for the ten people in the world who actually spent that kind of money at the time.

It's still a workstation oriented chip/board, it will hardly be something that all the folks round here will be running out to buy.

 

[fkloster]

Originally posted by: Big Bunny
VEERYYYY SCARY! Grow up and take your physical threats out to the playground where they may actually mean a damn.

Regardless, you must not be adding well because all of that still adds up to well under $5k -- for the ten people in the world who actually spent that kind of money at the time.

It's still a workstation oriented chip/board, it will hardly be something that all the folks round here will be running out to buy.

1) American general 4X4 hummers were never intended OR designed for personal/private off-road enthusiast use... guess what, they make great off road vehicles for private ownership. No they are not cheep, but some people don't care.

2) More than 10 people in this world built 6K+ SLI rigs... I want that bet real bad. You don't want that bet...

3) Who said anything about "all the folks around here" going to run out and buy the Tyan platform? I certainly did not. Some will...

I am very grown up thank you. I just tell it like it is.

 

[imported_Ged]

I've been drooling over this board for a while now and I'm building a system around it in a month or two.

I can't find good information on what to power it with.

Anyone have one that's running an SLI setup that can tell me what Power Supply they chose?

Or anyone else. All help and opinions are appreciated.

I've been looking at either a Zippy PSM-6600P (with SATA connection) or the OCZ PowerStream 600W Power Supply.

 

[chucky2]

This is undoubtably a nice board...but unfortunately it's supported by Tyan...which means in 6 months, when the little things still aren't working on it, your SOL. Which means your $400-$500 investment is a little less like an investment and more like a rash after a good screw.

Better to wait for something equivalent for $200 less from a manufacturer who provides quality support...

And Yes, I have had go arounds with Tyan, so Yes I'm biased...but not unrealistically so IMHO.

Chuck