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I think price is also a big reason I lost my taste for fastfood. It's expensive everywhere, and when I'm running the value calcs in my head, it tips into the negative category, and I do something else.
 
WelshBloke said:
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CEOs pretending to be down with the common people pisses me off! They are there to chisel as much money out of their customers whilst passing on as little of the profits to their workers as possible, I understand that but them trying to be "relatable" while they do it is just insulting.
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Some of them started out as common as it gets. Thomas, Sanders, that BK CEO. Hell, Leather jacket man, Nvidia CEO waited tables at Denny's.
 
lxskllr said:
I think price is also a big reason I lost my taste for fastfood. It's expensive everywhere, and when I'm running the value calcs in my head, it tips into the negative category, and I do something else.
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My gut flora will rebel at 99% of fast food. Hence I don't. Makes me even spicier they nixed the all day breakfast burritos at McD. That was one item I had no trouble with.

WelshBloke said:
Also that is fucking nothing compared to the time when I got worked up because you guys call Lego "Legos"!
I literally had people PMing me asking if I was ok then!
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Definitely some weird triggers you got there M8. I can get pretty aggro on here if I make the mistake of shit posting when my pre workout stack is kicking in. Which is nothing like what the gym bros do. After seeing the Johnny Harris vid about how many supplements have bacterial and or fungal contamination I would not go near any of them. They give frankenfast food a run for the money.

The world has been serious business the entire 2020s. There is plenty to rage against the machine about. My hot take is the burger wars suddenly going off is a welcome and humorous relief from the usual doom scrolling fodder that seems to clog everyone's feeds.
 
DAPUNISHER said:
Definitely some weird triggers you got there M8. I can get pretty aggro on here if I make the mistake of shit posting when my pre workout stack is kicking in. Which is nothing like what the gym bros do. After seeing the Johnny Harris vid about how many supplements have bacterial and or fungal contamination I would not go near any of them. They give frankenfast food a run for the money.
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LEGO IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!!
DAPUNISHER said:
The world has been serious business the entire 2020s. There is plenty to rage against the machine about. My hot take is the burger wars suddenly going off is a welcome and humorous relief from the usual doom scrolling fodder that seems to clog everyone's feeds.
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TBH raging about inconsequential shit then laughing at yourself for doing it is good therapy for trying not to rage about all the consequential shit that's happening that you can't laugh at afterwards!
 
lxskllr said:
I think price is also a big reason I lost my taste for fastfood. It's expensive everywhere, and when I'm running the value calcs in my head, it tips into the negative category, and I do something else.
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Very much so here, went from having fast food multiple times a week to... IDK, if we're not counting pizza, once every other month probably? For just a few bucks more we can get teriyaki from the local Japanese restaurant if I'm going to bother shelling out cash for dinner.
 
nakedfrog said:
Very much so here, went from having fast food multiple times a week to... IDK, if we're not counting pizza, once every other month probably? For just a few bucks more we can get teriyaki from the local Japanese restaurant if I'm going to bother shelling out cash for dinner.
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Pizza is an edge case. It can be fast food or it can be properly made food that's pretty healthy. And weirdly the good stuff can be less expensive than the cheap stuff.
 
WelshBloke said:
LEGO IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!!`
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Especially if you step on one.
WelshBloke said:
TBH raging about inconsequential shit then laughing at yourself for doing it is good therapy for trying not to rage about all the consequential shit that's happening that you can't laugh at afterwards!
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Incorporating your mention of WW2; My pop was a decorated WW2 vet. His big boss Patton pinned the Soldier's Medal on him. It was for swimming out and saving a British Pilot that crashed in a freezing cold river shortly after the Battle of the bulge. Pop said he could not get warm for weeks. A bone chill he called it. Also got the bronze star there. I asked him how that happened. He said everyone still alive in his unit got one; it was for simply surviving the shit storm they fought through. He told them to fuck off on 3 different purple heart wounds over the course of the war, said he and the other guys were way too busy for that horse shit.

Getting to the point, he taught me a great life strategy I have always relied on. Focus on things within your power, and ignore the big stuff until it stops ignoring you.

WelshBloke said:
I mean Queen Elizabeth trained as a car mechanic in WW2.
Point is that they aren't now.
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Terrible comparison. Ultra rich folk LARPIng is the polar opposite of normal folk ascending to wealth.
 
lxskllr said:
I think price is also a big reason I lost my taste for fastfood. It's expensive everywhere, and when I'm running the value calcs in my head, it tips into the negative category, and I do something else.
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Pricing has to be hurting them. Fast food should be cheap & easy & fast. Now with high prices and low staffing it's often only easy.

And personally I have a mental block if a lower price is available via some app or account registration. I cannot buy something that is supposed to be cheap/easy at a higher price. Combine this with my unwillingness to install any applications on my phone or create accounts I am nearly unable to eat fast food. I can't know if the price is good so I can't buy it. Oh well, no great loss. I'm better off without it.
 
gdansk said:
Pricing has to be hurting them. Fast food should be cheap & easy & fast. Now with high prices and low staffing it's often only easy.

And personally I have a mental block if a lower price is available via some app or account registration. I cannot buy something that is supposed to be cheap/easy at a higher price. Combine this with my unwillingness to install any applications on my phone or create accounts I am nearly unable to eat fast food. I can't know if the price is good so I can't buy it. Oh well, no great loss. I'm better off without it.
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The "install this app and it's cheaper" bollocks is also infuriating!
Like, why is it cheaper if I install the app? It's not making it cheaper for you to make!
They are just saying that the price without the app is ripping people off!
 
WelshBloke said:
The "install this app and it's cheaper" bollocks is also infuriating!
Like, why is it cheaper if I install the app? It's not making it cheaper for you to make!
They are just saying that the price without the app is ripping people off!
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Data mining.
 
WelshBloke said:
I can't imagine the data they would get from a McDonalds app on my phone would be worth much money!
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I dunno, they're also probably selling whatever information you provide to a third-party, and they use your location--ostensibly to make the food when you're about to arrive, which is true, but surely provides other benefits. We learned the hard way about them using the location for that because I ordered the food from my phone, but my partner went to pick it up, so they had not yet made the food because my phone had not approached the restaurant. They do now have an "I'm here" button to cover that, so as long as you coordinate you can get around it.
They do also provide "personal offers" and try to upsell you, presumably they think there's enough value in having you install the app that they're willing to turn away customers who won't install it to get reasonable prices.
 
In & Out consistently has lines out the wazoo here in CA. Doesn't really matter where, what day or time IME. But their food is fresh, and their prices are pretty reasonable. When I was in the Austin area a few years ago an I&O was built and I was surprised there was no lines. It looked dead for lunch time tbh. But Whataburger was packed. I wasn't impressed with Whataburger when I tried it.
 
nakedfrog said:
I dunno, they're also probably selling whatever information you provide to a third-party, and they use your location--ostensibly to make the food when you're about to arrive, which is true, but surely provides other benefits. We learned the hard way about them using the location for that because I ordered the food from my phone, but my partner went to pick it up, so they had not yet made the food because my phone had not approached the restaurant. They do now have an "I'm here" button to cover that, so as long as you coordinate you can get around it.
They do also provide "personal offers" and try to upsell you, presumably they think there's enough value in having you install the app that they're willing to turn away customers who won't install it to get reasonable prices.
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I don't think that I have any app set to always allow location all the time!

I mean they try to upsell even if you order a n person. I'm still not convinced that any of that would cover the "discount" they offer for using the app. I think that it's just a shitty way of increasing the price whilst pretending that it's optional!
 
WelshBloke said:
I don't think that I have any app set to always allow location all the time!

I mean they try to upsell even if you order a n person. I'm still not convinced that any of that would cover the "discount" they offer for using the app. I think that it's just a shitty way of increasing the price whilst pretending that it's optional!
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Good luck trying to order in-person here, it's all kiosk now... you can try to flag someone down if you don't mind waiting and they'll take the order at the register, or at least could a couple years ago. But they didn't try to upsell me the way the app does.
The location permission does get set to "only while the app is open", Android doesn't have an in-between setting currently, it's either while the app is open or off.
 
nakedfrog said:
Good luck trying to order in-person here, it's all kiosk now... you can try to flag someone down if you don't mind waiting and they'll take the order at the register, or at least could a couple years ago.
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This drives me nuts when I'm with the wife and kid ordering at FF joints. The wife and kid are picky and need to customize everything so it takes forever using the kiosk. When we go to the register to try and order, it takes forever for someone to take our order at the register too, and nowadays they seem annoyed we're actually trying to have a human take our order.
 
nakedfrog said:
Good luck trying to order in-person here, it's all kiosk now... you can try to flag someone down if you don't mind waiting and they'll take the order at the register, or at least could a couple years ago. But they didn't try to upsell me the way the app does.
The location permission does get set to "only while the app is open", Android doesn't have an in-between setting currently, it's either while the app is open or off.
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Mine has a few settings per app for location. Not sure how trustworthy that is though.
 
thestrangebrew1 said:
This drives me nuts when I'm with the wife and kid ordering at FF joints. The wife and kid are picky and need to customize everything so it takes forever using the kiosk. When we go to the register to try and order, it takes forever for someone to take our order at the register too, and nowadays they seem annoyed we're actually trying to have a human take our order.
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I'm guessing that the person taking the order it just doing exactly what you would have to do on the kiosk just on a screen behind the counter.
 
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