Before you pack for Ottawa

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Oh really? Let's see some statistics on that.

Read this link

The U.S. is the most violent society in the industrialized world, and probably
the entire world as well. Although it doesn't have the most police per capita,
the U.S. does have the toughest laws and punishments by far. The question of
which came first, the chicken or the egg, is becoming much less relevant as time
passes; the U.S. has been following this "get tough" approach for decades, with
no significant reduction of its violent crime rate.

Better luck next time.

ummm... quite a "source" you have there... read the previous posts, too.

He is not interested in fact, I was just trying to correct and higlight his prejudice...

 

[Alistar7]

http://www.americandaily.com/article/3109

"Fellow Canadians, let?s get over our collective inferiority complex and wholly unite behind our American brothers and sisters in this great time of need. It?s the right thing to do. "


If ya really want an overwhelming amount of stuff to sift through regarding this well documented and publicized complex just google it, tons to review straight from the Canuck's mouths...

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Alistar7
Sickbeast I hope those statistics help you see the truth.

Forcible rape != sexual assault. They aren't the same thing.

Sexual assault also has a massive reporting gap, worldwide. I don't know what estimates are now, but I recall most nations having well under 50% of sexual assaults reported. This makes for a very poor comparison, compared to other crimes; you can't tell whether you have a reporting difference or an occurrence difference.

Statistically they would even out in both countries, in both instances

What about the fact Canadians have the 6th highest overall rate of crime victimization in the world, higher than the US. Sickbeats you asked for those stats AFTER they were posted, if you can't bother to read don't bother to post.

 

[Alistar7]

The six countries with the highest overall prevalence victimisation rates are Australia
(30% of people were victimised once or more), England and Wales (26%),
the Netherlands (25%) and Sweden (25%), Canada (24%) and Scotland (23%). They
have significantly higher overall victimisation rates (in a statistical sense at the 10%
probability level) than the average of all ICVS countries.

Page 16

http://www.minjust.nl:8080/b_o...cations/08-icvs-h2.pdf

The US % is 21 in the report.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
Statistically they would even out in both countries, in both instances

Only if the under-reporting were the same in both nations; the legal system and policing systems are different enough that assuming this would not be prudent. As for rape vs. sexual assault, you're right - including other sexual assaults in the same category would make the American number grow, in relation to the Canadian one (which includes all sexual assaults, inclduing rapes).

What about the fact Canadians have the 6th highest overall rate of crime victimization in the world, higher than the US. Sickbeats you asked for those stats AFTER they were posted, if you can't bother to read don't bother to post.

I don't know.

I notice the stats for Canada and the US are not very far off, but Canada's is higher. More crime? More 'reported crime'? (Canadians have a reputation for liking their law and order and trusting their police; I couldn't tell you if it applies here though).

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

I notice the stats for Canada and the US are not very far off, but Canada's is higher. More crime? More 'reported crime'? (Canadians have a reputation for liking their law and order and trusting their police; I couldn't tell you if it applies here though).

I posted earlier in the thread, but factors such as what you mentioned, and others such as twisting crime statistics to meet your agenda (such as Switzerland twisting its crime statistics to make immigrants look bad) make these sort of statistics 'adjustable'

 

[Alistar7]

Due to the fact various sexual crimes are labeled differently by both countries there is no straight comparision available on an offense by offense basis. The higher % of violent (contact) crime in Canada is significant compared to the US and definitely not the common MISperception made by MOST Canadians. It is in the area of sexually related crimes that you see the most significant difference.

Steeple not sure where I heard about the law concerning legal age for Canuck strippers. I can honestly say I am not a patron of those types of establishments, just not my thing.....

 

[Alistar7]

Tried to rely on international studies to remove the "editorial nationalistic spin".

Statistics are like bikinis, while they may be very revealing what they hide is essential.