'Been thinking about the universe and how it was made.

[SketchMaster]

I've been thinking (the dangers of doing this are well know to me) about the universe and how we really have no clue as to how it all came to be.

Oh yes, we have the Big Bang theory, but where did all that matter come from? Some have the idea that it had something to do with other dimensions connecting and somehow creating matter (don't quote me on this). But that only brings up the question of how those dimensions came to be, energy could be considered a form matter so where did that come from? Every knows you can not create something from nothing, or so have come to believe. Now obviously we have proof that matter was created, it is just strange to think that at some point there was absolutely nothing and then, somehow, matter just showed up...

This next thought is not me trying to prove or disprove any religion, it is just an observation I have made while pondering my first point. The argument about religion falls flat on it's face the very moment of it's conception, you can't prove nor can you disprove God. So trying to do either is just a waste of time if all you are concerned about is being right.

So while I was thinking about this I began to think just how much time might have passed before our planet even had it's first trace of life. I started to wonder what other races might have come and gone in other parts of the universe while our galaxy was just starting to form.

Our race is nothing more than a blink in the face of time and other life may have already found a way to evolve into a new form of life, maybe energy. So when you really start to think about it we just might have something out there watching us, whether to merely observe or to be more proactive in our evolution. It could be this race may have gotten to the point where they have put selfishness behind them and want to help others get to the same point as them. (Pretty sure scifi had a show that covered that idea. ;-) ) So Darwin was right, he just didn't see how far his idea of evolution could go.

It really is amazing what little we know when you try to wrap your head around ideas like this.

Too bad that because I threw the word ?God? into this post people will just start bickering about that and not the idea behind my post.

 

[SlickSnake]

SHENS! :laugh::beer:

That does not compute. Must drink more beer before responding. :roll::beer:

You are not alone in your amazement, but most people are too busy standing in line on B.F. to worry about such things. Like the fact that what they stand in line to buy might be made in a slave factory somewhere in Asia. And they are supporting this slavery by buying it. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

I will come back to this thread when my head hurts a bit less and give you a unique perspective on this, I promise you. I'm about tapped out at the moment. :clock:

 

[Vic]

Umm... I couldn't find any idea behind your post... it was just nonsense. Or is my sarcasm meter on the fritz again... ?

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: SketchMaster
I've been thinking (the dangers of doing this are well know to me) about the universe and how we really have no clue as to how it all came to be.

Oh yes, we have the Big Bang theory, but where did all that matter come from? Some have the idea that it had something to do with other dimensions connecting and somehow creating matter (don't quote me on this). But that only brings up the question of how those dimensions came to be, energy could be considered a form matter so where did that come from? Every knows you can not create something from nothing, or so have come to believe. Now obviously we have proof that matter was created, it is just strange to think that at some point there was absolutely nothing and then, somehow, matter just showed up...

This next thought is not me trying to prove or disprove any religion, it is just an observation I have made while pondering my first point. The argument about religion falls flat on it's face the very moment of it's conception, you can't prove nor can you disprove God. So trying to do either is just a waste of time if all you are concerned about is being right.

So while I was thinking about this I began to think just how much time might have passed before our planet even had it's first trace of life. I started to wonder what other races might have come and gone in other parts of the universe while our galaxy was just starting to form.

Our race is nothing more than a blink in the face of time and other life may have already found a way to evolve into a new form of life, maybe energy. So when you really start to think about it we just might have something out there watching us, whether to merely observe or to be more proactive in our evolution. It could be this race may have gotten to the point where they have put selfishness behind them and want to help others get to the same point as them. (Pretty sure scifi had a show that covered that idea. ;-) ) So Darwin was right, he just didn't see how far his idea of evolution could go.

It really is amazing what little we know when you try to wrap your head around ideas like this.

Too bad that because I threw the word ?God? into this post people will just start bickering about that and not the idea behind my post.

How much have you had to smoke tonight?

 

[SlickSnake]

LOL! ^

Either not enough, or too much? :evil:

 

[SketchMaster]

Originally posted by: Vic
Umm... I couldn't find any idea behind your post... it was just nonsense. Or is my sarcasm meter on the fritz again... ?

It is that for how much we like to tell our selfs we know how things work, we are really the equivalent of a two year old that just found out we can make bubbles in the tub by farting.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: SketchMaster

Originally posted by: Vic
Umm... I couldn't find any idea behind your post... it was just nonsense. Or is my sarcasm meter on the fritz again... ?

It is that for how much we like to tell our selfs we know how things work, we are really the equivalent of a two year old that just found out we can make bubbles in the tub by farting.

LOL!

Puff puff pass dude

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
LOL! ^

Either not enough, or too much? :evil:

Exactly. Not enough to actually hit upon something insightful and just enough to make him feel comfortable posting.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
LOL! ^

Either not enough, or too much? :evil:

Exactly. Not enough to actually hit upon something insightful and just enough to make him feel comfortable posting.

He's a few short of writing up something golden in highly technical :laugh:

 

[Jeff7]

Read "A Brief History of Time" and "Universe in a Nutshell" by Stephen Hawking. I think those books mention "branes" which I think would be similar to the dimensional interaction thingies you mention. There's some idea that a collision between these extradimensional structures would manifest itself as an eruption of what we perceive as space, time, and energy. (Matter simply condensed out of the sea of energy.)

Since time itself may have come from the Big Bang, there may have been no "before," at least not in terms we could describe. There would have been no space, either. Our laws of physics would be utterly meaningless.

Something else to "wrap your head around" is the idea of a multiverse - multiple universes, similar and dissimilar to our own. My imagined view of it would be zoomed out greatly, to see out across the extradimensional void. Everywhere you look, it sparkles, each point of light another singularity bursting into existence, each a Big Bang like our own, Universes forming everywhere, like stars in our night sky. Some would be so dense they'd collapse in on themselves immediately. Others would have such an energetic explosion that they'd dissipate before the energy could coalesce into matter. A few would fit into our definition of "just right," with a slow enough expansion rate so as to allow for the formation of reasonably stable matter, and sentient life.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: SketchMaster
I've been thinking (the dangers of doing this are well know to me) about the universe and how we really have no clue as to how it all came to be.

Oh yes, we have the Big Bang theory, but where did all that matter come from? Some have the idea that it had something to do with other dimensions connecting and somehow creating matter (don't quote me on this). But that only brings up the question of how those dimensions came to be, energy could be considered a form matter so where did that come from? Every knows you can not create something from nothing, or so have come to believe. Now obviously we have proof that matter was created, it is just strange to think that at some point there was absolutely nothing and then, somehow, matter just showed up...

This next thought is not me trying to prove or disprove any religion, it is just an observation I have made while pondering my first point. The argument about religion falls flat on it's face the very moment of it's conception, you can't prove nor can you disprove God. So trying to do either is just a waste of time if all you are concerned about is being right.

So while I was thinking about this I began to think just how much time might have passed before our planet even had it's first trace of life. I started to wonder what other races might have come and gone in other parts of the universe while our galaxy was just starting to form.

Our race is nothing more than a blink in the face of time and other life may have already found a way to evolve into a new form of life, maybe energy. So when you really start to think about it we just might have something out there watching us, whether to merely observe or to be more proactive in our evolution. It could be this race may have gotten to the point where they have put selfishness behind them and want to help others get to the same point as them. (Pretty sure scifi had a show that covered that idea. ;-) ) So Darwin was right, he just didn't see how far his idea of evolution could go.

It really is amazing what little we know when you try to wrap your head around ideas like this.

Too bad that because I threw the word ?God? into this post people will just start bickering about that and not the idea behind my post.

Please don`t get caught sellingn whatever you are smoking!!

 

[us3rnotfound]

k!

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Vic
Umm... I couldn't find any idea behind your post... it was just nonsense. Or is my sarcasm meter on the fritz again... ?

It IS on me...get it off! It's heavy!!! :|

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: SketchMaster
I've been thinking (the dangers of doing this are well know to me) about the universe and how we really have no clue as to how it all came to be.

Oh yes, we have the Big Bang theory, but where did all that matter come from? Some have the idea that it had something to do with other dimensions connecting and somehow creating matter (don't quote me on this). But that only brings up the question of how those dimensions came to be, energy could be considered a form matter so where did that come from? Every knows you can not create something from nothing, or so have come to believe. Now obviously we have proof that matter was created, it is just strange to think that at some point there was absolutely nothing and then, somehow, matter just showed up...

This next thought is not me trying to prove or disprove any religion, it is just an observation I have made while pondering my first point. The argument about religion falls flat on it's face the very moment of it's conception, you can't prove nor can you disprove God. So trying to do either is just a waste of time if all you are concerned about is being right.

So while I was thinking about this I began to think just how much time might have passed before our planet even had it's first trace of life. I started to wonder what other races might have come and gone in other parts of the universe while our galaxy was just starting to form.

Our race is nothing more than a blink in the face of time and other life may have already found a way to evolve into a new form of life, maybe energy. So when you really start to think about it we just might have something out there watching us, whether to merely observe or to be more proactive in our evolution. It could be this race may have gotten to the point where they have put selfishness behind them and want to help others get to the same point as them. (Pretty sure scifi had a show that covered that idea. ;-) ) So Darwin was right, he just didn't see how far his idea of evolution could go.

It really is amazing what little we know when you try to wrap your head around ideas like this.

Too bad that because I threw the word ?God? into this post people will just start bickering about that and not the idea behind my post.

Please don`t get caught sellingn whatever you are smoking!!

What he posted is actually true---physics is now leaning towards the existance of a multiverse. I think this is tied in with string theory (all particles are composed of strings- one end is here, the other end in another universe). There may even be a near copy of our own universe, but with a different series of events that took place. Mind blowing stuff really.

 

[jjones]

The universe was created from a big ball of string. What's left of the ball now resides somewhere in Texas next to a Stuckey's.

 

[nakedfrog]

Dude... my hands are HUGE!

 

[Greenman]

Am I the only one who finds it odd that so many of you have no problem believing that the universe exploded out of a mono block, or was squirted into existence from another dimension, but scoff at the idea of it being created by God? Would creationism be more palatable if we said the universe was created by Fred? Then further state that Fred has no rules of behavior that we should follow? I often wonder if it's not the concept of a God that causes such consternation, but the idea that accepting the existence of God implies the existence of God's law, and along with that, the fear that we might be breaking it? To put it another way, is atheism nothing more than an exercise in plausible deniability?

 

[dsity]

exploding out of mono block > magic performed by god

 

[Jschmuck2]

"No no no, wait, just think about it man. Are like....here? Or are we really, here?"

".....woah"

"I know."

 

[MisterJackson]

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[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Greenman
Am I the only one who finds it odd that so many of you have no problem believing that the universe exploded out of a mono block, or was squirted into existence from another dimension, but scoff at the idea of it being created by God? Would creationism be more palatable if we said the universe was created by Fred? Then further state that Fred has no rules of behavior that we should follow? I often wonder if it's not the concept of a God that causes such consternation, but the idea that accepting the existence of God implies the existence of God's law, and along with that, the fear that we might be breaking it? To put it another way, is atheism nothing more than an exercise in plausible deniability?

Or perhaps the notion that a being capable of creating such vastness from nothingness would concern itself with the day-to-day minutiae of some organisms on one of a ridiculous number of planets?

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: Greenman
Am I the only one who finds it odd that so many of you have no problem believing that the universe exploded out of a mono block, or was squirted into existence from another dimension, but scoff at the idea of it being created by God? Would creationism be more palatable if we said the universe was created by Fred? Then further state that Fred has no rules of behavior that we should follow? I often wonder if it's not the concept of a God that causes such consternation, but the idea that accepting the existence of God implies the existence of God's law, and along with that, the fear that we might be breaking it? To put it another way, is atheism nothing more than an exercise in plausible deniability?

quiet moralist!

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

Whatever, just don't divide by zero. Bad things happen.

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: dsity
exploding out of mono block > magic performed by god

exploding out of a magic mono block > magic performed by god


I fixed that up for you.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Greenman
Am I the only one who finds it odd that so many of you have no problem believing that the universe exploded out of a mono block, or was squirted into existence from another dimension, but scoff at the idea of it being created by God? Would creationism be more palatable if we said the universe was created by Fred? Then further state that Fred has no rules of behavior that we should follow? I often wonder if it's not the concept of a God that causes such consternation, but the idea that accepting the existence of God implies the existence of God's law, and along with that, the fear that we might be breaking it? To put it another way, is atheism nothing more than an exercise in plausible deniability?

Or perhaps the notion that a being capable of creating such vastness from nothingness would concern itself with the day-to-day minutiae of some organisms on one of a ridiculous number of planets?

Do not question his holy thoughts, god made dinosaurs for crying out loud.

What if he brought space dinosaurs to invade us?